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Fun Fact magicka vs stamina
Noctus
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statisticly boneshield is Stronger and Cheaper than any other shields that most classes have access to. did u ever see a stamina player use a shield ?
(they can dedicate fully into their main source and have their mitigation from rolldodges without spending a skillslot)
Edited by Noctus on March 22, 2021 4:36PM (they can dedicate fully into their main source and have their mitigation from rolldodges without spending a skillslot)
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nesakinter✭✭✭✭How do you get the statistics that Bone Shield a shield that is only 15% of your HP in PvP the strongest? At 50K HP, you are looking at a measly 7.5k shield lol.
For a magblade main, your bias against roll dodge is ridiculously apparent. Dodge is the magblade's Achilles heel, it is just the way it is, better to accept it and move on.4 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭nesakinter wrote: »How do you get the statistics that Bone Shield a shield that is only 15% of your HP in PvP the strongest? At 50K HP, you are looking at a measly 7.5k shield lol.
For a magblade main, your bias against roll dodge is ridiculously apparent. Dodge is the magblade's Achilles heel, it is just the way it is, better to accept it and move on.
check the numbers
https://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/build-planer/0 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭nesakinter wrote: »How do you get the statistics that Bone Shield a shield that is only 15% of your HP in PvP the strongest? At 50K HP, you are looking at a measly 7.5k shield lol.
For a magblade main, your bias against roll dodge is ridiculously apparent. Dodge is the magblade's Achilles heel, it is just the way it is, better to accept it and move on.
check the numbers
https://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/build-planer/
This just leads to a blank build planner, did you mean for that?0 -
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✭✭Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.6 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »nesakinter wrote: »How do you get the statistics that Bone Shield a shield that is only 15% of your HP in PvP the strongest? At 50K HP, you are looking at a measly 7.5k shield lol.
For a magblade main, your bias against roll dodge is ridiculously apparent. Dodge is the magblade's Achilles heel, it is just the way it is, better to accept it and move on.
check the numbers
https://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/build-planer/
This just leads to a blank build planner, did you mean for that?
yeh u can look up the skills and their costs etc in the build planner.0 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
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BohnT2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
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THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I use 4 shields on my Magplar who has 54k magic, 28k health and 20k stamina.
In Cyrodiil Dampen Magicka is about 10k with the blazing, bone and ward ally shields each being slightly north of 5k.
Only reasons I don’t run just DM is because you cannot stack the same shield on top of itself, and ward ally allows me to give out a shield to someone else. Blazing is front barred with DM and only used in absolute emergencies where a second shield is needed before a bar swap to my healing bar, and bone is only used because I have to spend stamina on something.
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wazzz56✭✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »I use 4 shields on my Magplar who has 54k magic, 28k health and 20k stamina.
In Cyrodiil Dampen Magicka is about 10k with the blazing, bone and ward ally shields each being slightly north of 5k.
Only reasons I don’t run just DM is because you cannot stack the same shield on top of itself, and ward ally allows me to give out a shield to someone else. Blazing is front barred with DM and only used in absolute emergencies where a second shield is needed before a bar swap to my healing bar, and bone is only used because I have to spend stamina on something.
So yeah, dampen magicka for the win.
4 shields? makes me wish old Shieldbreaker was a thing lolGM Tig Ole Critties ps5 NA small scale PvP guild
"After a hard week of farming, or a long night of being nagged by your wife, there is nothing better than going out for a bit of a fish."2 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭we are drifting away from the point i was trying to make which is. that stamina characters have an advantage becouse magicka user has to equip shields to survive which costs skill slots and on top has to invest to stamina to break out of stun etc. while stamina can just focus on main resource and get their mitigation by rolldodging continiously which is even more effective than shields since it completely nulifies the attack.0
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✭✭lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
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No I'm telling you that all shields are affected by battlespirit thus bone shield only gives a shield equivalent to 15% of your HP which is trash.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 23, 2021 1:49PM2 -
wazzz56✭✭✭✭✭statisticly boneshield is Stronger and Cheaper than any other shields that most classes have access to. did u ever see a stamina player use a shield ?
(they can dedicate fully into their main source and have their mitigation from rolldodges without spending a skillslot)[we are drifting away from the point i was trying to make which is. that stamina characters have an advantage becouse magicka user has to equip shields to survive which costs skill slots and on top has to invest to stamina to break out of stun etc. while stamina can just focus on main resource and get their mitigation by rolldodging continiously which is even more effective than shields since it completely nulifies the attack.
you don't really have to invest in non main stat any longer.....and yes mag toons use shields, but they can also melt people with 3k spell dmg, which is not comprable to stam toons. ps stam toons (most classes anyway) need to "invest" in mag to survive as much (if not more in some cases) as mag classes "investing" into stam..GM Tig Ole Critties ps5 NA small scale PvP guild
"After a hard week of farming, or a long night of being nagged by your wife, there is nothing better than going out for a bit of a fish."0 -
catnamedwill✭✭✭lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
[Quoted post was removed]
Specifically yes. The others shields are capped at at a certain HP percentage but scale with magicka. Conjured Ward/Annulment will give you up to 50% HP but does not scale with HP. So with 26k and 40K Magicka, you are looking at a 13k Shield.
Where as with 26k HP, you won't get bigger than 3.9k Bone Shield.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 23, 2021 1:50PM2 -
THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »I use 4 shields on my Magplar who has 54k magic, 28k health and 20k stamina.
In Cyrodiil Dampen Magicka is about 10k with the blazing, bone and ward ally shields each being slightly north of 5k.
Only reasons I don’t run just DM is because you cannot stack the same shield on top of itself, and ward ally allows me to give out a shield to someone else. Blazing is front barred with DM and only used in absolute emergencies where a second shield is needed before a bar swap to my healing bar, and bone is only used because I have to spend stamina on something.
So yeah, dampen magicka for the win.
4 shields? makes me wish old Shieldbreaker was a thing lol
How else am I supposed to spam massive damage while wearing paper? lol1 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭catnamedwill wrote: »lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
[Quoted post was removed]
Specifically yes. The others shields are capped at at a certain HP percentage but scale with magicka. Conjured Ward/Annulment will give you up to 50% HP but does not scale with HP. So with 26k and 40K Magicka, you are looking at a 13k Shield.
Where as with 26k HP, you won't get bigger than 3.9k Bone Shield.
in bg my healing ward gives me like 2900 shields while bone shield gives me 3500 or so. im sitting at 35 k magicka and 23 k health.
i could log in my sorc to test what u said but ill trust u on this and state that not every magicka user is a sorc and other magicka classes rely on dampen magic and ward.
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 23, 2021 1:50PM0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭catnamedwill wrote: »lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
[Quoted post was removed]
Specifically yes. The others shields are capped at at a certain HP percentage but scale with magicka. Conjured Ward/Annulment will give you up to 50% HP but does not scale with HP. So with 26k and 40K Magicka, you are looking at a 13k Shield.
Where as with 26k HP, you won't get bigger than 3.9k Bone Shield.
in bg my healing ward gives me like 2900 shields while bone shield gives me 3500 or so. im sitting at 35 k magicka and 23 k health.
i could log in my sorc to test what u said but ill trust u on this and state that not every magicka user is a sorc and other magicka classes rely on dampen magic and ward.
Healing ward , annulment and bone shield all have different types of calculating finał shield size. And You seems to not understand any of them if Your answer to someone taking about annulment/conjured ward is showing the results of bone shield vs healing ward comparison.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 23, 2021 1:50PM3 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭catnamedwill wrote: »lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
[Quoted post was removed]
Specifically yes. The others shields are capped at at a certain HP percentage but scale with magicka. Conjured Ward/Annulment will give you up to 50% HP but does not scale with HP. So with 26k and 40K Magicka, you are looking at a 13k Shield.
Where as with 26k HP, you won't get bigger than 3.9k Bone Shield.
in bg my healing ward gives me like 2900 shields while bone shield gives me 3500 or so. im sitting at 35 k magicka and 23 k health.
i could log in my sorc to test what u said but ill trust u on this and state that not every magicka user is a sorc and other magicka classes rely on dampen magic and ward.
Healing ward , annulment and bone shield all have different types of calculating finał shield size. And You seems to not understand any of them if Your answer to someone taking about annulment/conjured ward is showing the results of bone shield vs healing ward comparison.
the point is not talking about which shield is stronger etc. im just pointing out that stam classes even tho they have a shield are not using it due to the mitigation given by rolldodge thus having an innate advantage against magicka thats allEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 23, 2021 1:50PM2 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭catnamedwill wrote: »lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
[Quoted post was removed]
Specifically yes. The others shields are capped at at a certain HP percentage but scale with magicka. Conjured Ward/Annulment will give you up to 50% HP but does not scale with HP. So with 26k and 40K Magicka, you are looking at a 13k Shield.
Where as with 26k HP, you won't get bigger than 3.9k Bone Shield.
in bg my healing ward gives me like 2900 shields while bone shield gives me 3500 or so. im sitting at 35 k magicka and 23 k health.
i could log in my sorc to test what u said but ill trust u on this and state that not every magicka user is a sorc and other magicka classes rely on dampen magic and ward.
Healing ward , annulment and bone shield all have different types of calculating finał shield size. And You seems to not understand any of them if Your answer to someone taking about annulment/conjured ward is showing the results of bone shield vs healing ward comparison.
the point is not talking about which shield is stronger etc. im just pointing out that stam classes even tho they have a shield are not using it due to the mitigation given by rolldodge thus having an innate advantage against magicka thats all
[snip] Stam classes don't use bone shield simply because It's very weak shield compared to other shields. [snip]
Funnily enough when ZoS added stamina scaling to bone shield few years ago on PTS they removed that almost immidiately. During short testing period bone shield on stamina user was reaching values around 80% of shield size mag setups had but its was still enough for stam builds to heavily dominate in fights on PTS.
If stam setups would have acces to 8-10k shields today then they would obviously use it that's all.
[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 23, 2021 1:50PM4 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭catnamedwill wrote: »lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
[Quoted post was removed]
Specifically yes. The others shields are capped at at a certain HP percentage but scale with magicka. Conjured Ward/Annulment will give you up to 50% HP but does not scale with HP. So with 26k and 40K Magicka, you are looking at a 13k Shield.
Where as with 26k HP, you won't get bigger than 3.9k Bone Shield.
in bg my healing ward gives me like 2900 shields while bone shield gives me 3500 or so. im sitting at 35 k magicka and 23 k health.
i could log in my sorc to test what u said but ill trust u on this and state that not every magicka user is a sorc and other magicka classes rely on dampen magic and ward.
Healing ward , annulment and bone shield all have different types of calculating finał shield size. And You seems to not understand any of them if Your answer to someone taking about annulment/conjured ward is showing the results of bone shield vs healing ward comparison.
the point is not talking about which shield is stronger etc. im just pointing out that stam classes even tho they have a shield are not using it due to the mitigation given by rolldodge thus having an innate advantage against magicka thats all
If stam setups would have acces to 8-10k shields today then they would obviously use it that's all.
Can u go battlegrounds with magblade magden Magplar and confirm any shield having 10 k by Posting a screenshot?
The values ur talking about are weird.
As i stated before at a value of 25 k HP and 35k mag boneshield still superior or keeping up with mag shields.
[snip]
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Jackey✭✭✭✭✭OP also seem to assume that mag specs need shields to survive. I haven't used a shield on my main in pvp since the shield nerf.PS | EU3 -
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✭✭✭OP also seem to assume that mag specs need shields to survive. I haven't used a shield on my main in pvp since the shield nerf.
Pretty much.
While i wouldve preferred light armor to be given something other than dodgeroll cost reduction as a defensive bonus, it is the meta we live in.
My magplar can spam those sweet sweet somersaults back to back like its nothin now.
The extra 1k spd also went a long way in making heals, even for magicka, a lot more potent.
Even on a setup more focused on regen all around, i can rip 10-12k breath of life crits.
Also i love the fact that the OP is comparing non battlespirit boneshield to magicka shields.
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✭✭✭✭Bone shield just scales from max health
Healing ward scales more the lower health you have.
Annulment scales with max health and max stam.
I don't know what math you're doing OP, but bone shield is not stronger than the shield mag characters have.
If bone shield was so good outside of straight health builds, why aren't we all using them on stam builds??Edited by Brrrofski on March 23, 2021 8:39AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭catnamedwill wrote: »lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
[Quoted post was removed]
Specifically yes. The others shields are capped at at a certain HP percentage but scale with magicka. Conjured Ward/Annulment will give you up to 50% HP but does not scale with HP. So with 26k and 40K Magicka, you are looking at a 13k Shield.
Where as with 26k HP, you won't get bigger than 3.9k Bone Shield.
in bg my healing ward gives me like 2900 shields while bone shield gives me 3500 or so. im sitting at 35 k magicka and 23 k health.
i could log in my sorc to test what u said but ill trust u on this and state that not every magicka user is a sorc and other magicka classes rely on dampen magic and ward.
Healing ward , annulment and bone shield all have different types of calculating finał shield size. And You seems to not understand any of them if Your answer to someone taking about annulment/conjured ward is showing the results of bone shield vs healing ward comparison.
the point is not talking about which shield is stronger etc. im just pointing out that stam classes even tho they have a shield are not using it due to the mitigation given by rolldodge thus having an innate advantage against magicka thats all
If stam setups would have acces to 8-10k shields today then they would obviously use it that's all.
Can u go battlegrounds with magblade magden Magplar and confirm any shield having 10 k by Posting a screenshot?
The values ur talking about are weird.
As i stated before at a value of 25 k HP and 35k mag boneshield still superior or keeping up with mag shields.
So either way ur lying or my game is bugged
There is also a third option. You don't understand things You're talking about.
Here are shield values in no CP Cyro (equivalent of BG) for a character with 24,4k HP and 35,7k mag (keep in mind that dampen will get also 6% boost for each light armor piece so atleast +30% on that shield which gives around 7,2k atleast)
The reason why Your reasoning failed is because You don't know how shields work and how they scale.
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ThePedge✭✭✭✭✭we are drifting away from the point i was trying to make which is. that stamina characters have an advantage becouse magicka user has to equip shields to survive which costs skill slots and on top has to invest to stamina to break out of stun etc. while stamina can just focus on main resource and get their mitigation by rolldodging continiously which is even more effective than shields since it completely nulifies the attack.
Magicka can fight at range.
No need to dodge roll or block a Dizzy Swing if you are 20m away.1 -
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Nobody should be getting "bursted" by people with 3k weapon damage tbh...cheesed down perhaps, but just flat out bursted, nahGM Tig Ole Critties ps5 NA small scale PvP guild
"After a hard week of farming, or a long night of being nagged by your wife, there is nothing better than going out for a bit of a fish."0 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭catnamedwill wrote: »lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Bone shield is 15% of your max HP, dampen magic and hardened ward are both ~20% of your max magicka.
So in order to have a higher shield than a mag dd with 40k magicka, they would need more than 53k HP. In which case they are not plaing a stamina build but a hp tank.
magicka shields are capped on 50% of max health. as an example if u have 25 k health and 35 k magicka ur healing ward should give u around 7500 and bone shield is then 8000 with lesser costs while it even has synergy going for it ofcourse also reflect effect if u morph it to that.
You haven't been introduced to battle spirit yet right?
[Quoted post was removed]
Specifically yes. The others shields are capped at at a certain HP percentage but scale with magicka. Conjured Ward/Annulment will give you up to 50% HP but does not scale with HP. So with 26k and 40K Magicka, you are looking at a 13k Shield.
Where as with 26k HP, you won't get bigger than 3.9k Bone Shield.
in bg my healing ward gives me like 2900 shields while bone shield gives me 3500 or so. im sitting at 35 k magicka and 23 k health.
i could log in my sorc to test what u said but ill trust u on this and state that not every magicka user is a sorc and other magicka classes rely on dampen magic and ward.
Healing ward , annulment and bone shield all have different types of calculating finał shield size. And You seems to not understand any of them if Your answer to someone taking about annulment/conjured ward is showing the results of bone shield vs healing ward comparison.
the point is not talking about which shield is stronger etc. im just pointing out that stam classes even tho they have a shield are not using it due to the mitigation given by rolldodge thus having an innate advantage against magicka thats all
If stam setups would have acces to 8-10k shields today then they would obviously use it that's all.
Can u go battlegrounds with magblade magden Magplar and confirm any shield having 10 k by Posting a screenshot?
The values ur talking about are weird.
As i stated before at a value of 25 k HP and 35k mag boneshield still superior or keeping up with mag shields.
So either way ur lying or my game is bugged
There is also a third option. You don't understand things You're talking about.
Here are shield values in no CP Cyro (equivalent of BG) for a character with 24,4k HP and 35,7k mag (keep in mind that dampen will get also 6% boost for each light armor piece so atleast +30% on that shield which gives around 7,2k atleast)
The reason why Your reasoning failed is because You don't know how shields work and how they scale.
wheres the 10 k u talked about ?
also u cant bring sorcs shields up no other magicka class has access to them.
if u wanna consider secondary effects than a 85 % reflect + synergy is kinda strong.
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 23, 2021 1:51PM2 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭we are drifting away from the point i was trying to make which is. that stamina characters have an advantage becouse magicka user has to equip shields to survive which costs skill slots and on top has to invest to stamina to break out of stun etc. while stamina can just focus on main resource and get their mitigation by rolldodging continiously which is even more effective than shields since it completely nulifies the attack.
Magicka can fight at range.
No need to dodge roll or block a Dizzy Swing if you are 20m away.
range matters in pve.... u are mistaken to think that u can keep ur distance from a stamsorc and magplars, magblades need to be close range1 -
ThePedge✭✭✭✭✭we are drifting away from the point i was trying to make which is. that stamina characters have an advantage becouse magicka user has to equip shields to survive which costs skill slots and on top has to invest to stamina to break out of stun etc. while stamina can just focus on main resource and get their mitigation by rolldodging continiously which is even more effective than shields since it completely nulifies the attack.
Magicka can fight at range.
No need to dodge roll or block a Dizzy Swing if you are 20m away.
range matters in pve.... u are mistaken to think that u can keep ur distance from a stamsorc and magplars, magblades need to be close range
Magplars maybe, magblade you only need to be melee for ultimate.
You can also block/dodge on mag. Especially this patch where base is up to 12k. Whack on 7 Prismatics, 6% from Undaunted passive, maybe even stamina from Tri-Stat food and you're laughing.0
