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Hello, a huge request to the developers to make a general auction among the players on the server. Joining a Guild, paying taxes is all very inconvenient and very repulsive for new players.
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Xuhora✭✭✭✭✭ah its monday again? weekly "i want an AH" thread.
type "Auction House" into the searchbar and dwell in the gazillion of comments allready made about it.28 -
Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Isn't that always the case when paying taxes is involved?
I'd say "no" to an auction house, as this causes flipping and huge inflation. But there should be a way for players in non-guilds to sell items. A non-guild trader in every major alliance starting city would be cool.1 -
Xuhora✭✭✭✭✭
well for every agument made for a global AH there are arround 3 good arguments against it. thats why i directed you to the previously made threads, to search them through, and if you still have an argument to be made that is better than the existing ones, feel free to post it in your freshly made thread
Edit: im very sorry for the rough "welcome to the forums" from me, i have to apologize, it is that this topic is just discussed to death allready, thats the reason for my some kind of hostile response.Edited by Xuhora on March 22, 2021 3:33PM7 -
ForzaRammer✭✭✭✭✭
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There is also a lot people hate auction house with passion.
Auction house is further away from real life than the current system.
The identical canned soup just like takeaway broth in game, have different prices in walmart and dollar general.
Auction is nothing but lazy coding that represents no reality.
You can request a downgrade but please don’t claim it’s upgrade.Edited by ForzaRammer on March 22, 2021 3:37PM8 -
Hello, a huge request to the developers to make a general auction among the players on the server. Joining a Guild, paying taxes is all very inconvenient and very repulsive for new players.
"Paying taxes is all very inconvenient". It always are, but in this game it's a smart way to try to keep inflation in-check. It has worked quite well until the last few month.
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everyone uses the addon for trading, so the prices already know everyone, it's just that it's not convenient, the auction house is much better0
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ApoAlaia✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Please don't.
In every game I have played with an AH this was just a tool for a very small group of people to consistently manipulate the market in detriment to the majority of the players.
I'm not saying that Guild Traders are the be all\end all answer to the matter of in-game goods trading because well, master of the obvious moment, I have no background on economy or trading therefore it would be absurd for me to make such claim but I sure prefer it over a centralized AH.
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aurelial✭I would not call it 'repulsive' by any means
I was a bit wary being so used to the AH in other games but you cant expect all games to function the same. Now im used to it I really enjoy the trade system (when its working as it should) and because of the servers I would think it is near enough impossible to overhaul the system with an AH, this isnt like WoW.
Like everyone else has said this has been raised many many times by players joining from other games, so it is worth checking out the hundreds of threads about it already to see both sides of the argument.4 -
Of course, this is beneficial for the guild holders, I'm sure they get a lot of gold from other players. But this makes the conditions for the players too uneven.0
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Onigar✭✭✭Hello, a huge request to the developers to make a general auction among the players on the server. Joining a Guild, paying taxes is all very inconvenient and very repulsive for new players.
You do understand this is optional and a personal choice you make.
You do not need to join a trade guild or otherwise where there are weekly fees.
The guild finder helps you locate the guild that you can be happy to be part of or, you always have the option to create your own.3 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No guild on xbox eu charge members.
They run raffles and people donate, sure. But nothing is required.
Auction house just leads to people inflating prices of stuff.
Current trading method makes it way harder to do that.3 -
ForzaRammer✭✭✭✭✭
✭everyone uses the addon for trading, so the prices already know everyone, it's just that it's not convenient, the auction house is much better
Exactly why the addons make the game less realistic. It gives people way too much information compare to real life.
You as a 3rd party seller on Walmart platform, should not know what other sellers sold and for how much.
Only Walmart should know this, and Walmart should not know what sold in costco.
These addons makes the game further from real life.0 -
JMadFour✭✭✭✭✭Using Guild Traders sucks. The entire system sucks. It's not fun. It's tedious. It's needlessly time consuming. From a consumer usability standpoint (i.e. people who want to buy items from the Traders) it is absolutely dreadful in nearly every way.
Especially on Console where there are no addons and we literally have to run from trader to trader doing blind searches for items.
If using Guild Traders was so great and wonderful and awesome, PC Players wouldn't use Global AH addons to circumvent it.
With that said, this has been a constant topic, ever since this game launched. it's never going to change, because ZOS has no intention of ever changing the Guild Trader system to something that doesn't suck. ZOS likes the system and no matter how much we complain about it, they are stubbornly devoted to Guild Traders and they will never, ever, EVER, consider changing to a regular AH system that works.
At this point it is just a dead horse, and we've been beating it for 7 years.Edited by JMadFour on March 22, 2021 4:34PM4 -
Hello, a huge request to the developers to make a general auction among the players on the server. Joining a Guild, paying taxes is all very inconvenient and very repulsive for new players.
You do understand this is optional and a personal choice you make.
You do not need to join a trade guild or otherwise where there are weekly fees.
The guild finder helps you locate the guild that you can be happy to be part of or, you always have the option to create your own.
of course, I joined which guild and I was kicked out after 3 days, and in another guild the taxes were increased from 2k to 5k.0 -
belial5221_ESO wrote: »Try Nirn Auction House addon,no guild needed,if you don't wanna be social.
thanks for the advice, I'll try0 -
Alurria✭✭✭✭✭
✭What would be the point? You would destroy the need for guild traders in each city. Then people would only visit one or two auction houses. The system works fine the way it is imo.3 -
JMadFour✭✭✭✭✭What would be the point? You would destroy the need for guild traders in each city. Then people would only visit one or two auction houses. The system works fine the way it is imo.
It only "works fine" for Sellers.
For Buyers, it's an absolutely terrible user experience.
If it were a good experience for buyers, PC players wouldn't need to use an addon to circumvent it.
Of course, most people who defend the system, don't think or care about the user experience from the buyer side. They only consider the seller side, and the seller side is the only thing that matters.
Because they are mostly PC players and they can just use an addon to solve the buyer experience problem. Console players do not have that luxury.Edited by JMadFour on March 22, 2021 5:01PM1 -
Ceejengine✭✭✭The AH setup is the corner stone of ESO economy. I think its super clever.
Once Cyrodiil is fixed and folks can get invested in it, the AH set up will be even better.
I do not believe that making a single universal AH would be more convenient.1 -
Alurria✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't see that at all, because the pricing would be homogenized if there was a central AH. Naw I played to many of these games to know that a few rich traders set the prices. The system is fine. I don't use add-ons3 -
hafgood✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not the weekly I want an auction house thread? Sorry but no, ite been discussed to death, read the other threads, if you have something new to the discussion rather than "I don't like guild traders" then great, I'll listen. Until then I'm moving on by.4 -
Krileon✭✭✭✭I just want a built in way to search all guild traders. It doesn't have to let me buy from this searching feature, but just search. It can then add a map marker as to where that guild trader is. I'm so sick and tired of spending HOURS running around checking multiple traders. TTC isn't reliable option for this either as it relies on users scanning and uploading the data, which goes out of date resulting in visiting multiple traders where the item is already gone. Would this be a fair compromise?0 -
majulook✭✭✭✭✭
✭I believe that a big reason for the current Trader system is that the servers cannot handle the connections a GAH would require. For those of you who were not around the current trade guild system was not original, it was added later.
IMHO the decisions on what ZOS put in place are based on what they expected servers could handle and grow with.
If the Game cannot handle Proc Sets in Cyrodill, or a Class change, or have a in game combat metric system.
How would they be able to handle a single point of sale kiosk for all stuff game wide with the thousands of players hitting it.Si vis pacem, para bellum1 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭everyone uses the addon for trading, so the prices already know everyone, it's just that it's not convenient, the auction house is much better
If you mean TTC, no. Not everyone uses "the addon".
As a player that started playing MMOs with ESO, I really like the guild trader system here.
Auction houses are boring, and they make the stuff that's sought after really expensive.The Moot Councillor2 -
Veinblood1965✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Normally I don't care but it gets old when guilds fall apart due to the amount of time it takes guild leaders to deal with auction junk. Yeah yeah I know just play it as a non trader guild but still people do want to participate in auctions they just need it combined with being in a guild. One of my favorite guilds just went the way of the dodo due to this. There's ten better ways to handle actions WITHOUT tying it to a guild.0 -
Viewsfrom6ix✭✭✭✭✭Save your time OP. This will never happen, the guild trader system is too embedded in ESO.
Even if ZOS does make the change, we'll start getting complaints about how the guild trader was better and how AH sucks. It is impossible to please everyone.0
