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So stamina has been nerfed?

SuicideSpleen
i heard that stamina took a hit and got nerfed and everyone is now re-rolling into magicka. is this true? id like some informatoin on it or your guys's thought. thanks
  • Fennwitty
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    No I never heard that.
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  • Vetixio
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    Are you a time traveler and have gone back to 2015? Cause its still the Elder Stamina Online lol.
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  • Mindcr0w
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    Pretty sure everyone got nerfed to one degree or another. Is there a sudden mass exodus from stam to mag? No.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Who did you hear that from, and are they someone you believe because you KNOW them well?
  • Juhasow
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    In PvE magicka was dominating for quite some time already.
  • Kurat
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    In PvE magicka was dominating for quite some time already.

    Most content favors magica but stam parses way higher.
  • LightYagami
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    I almost exclusively play PvP.
    Stamina toons continue to slaughter magicka toons (except magsorcs) in PvP as they always do.

    With the penalties on light and heavy armor, medium armor stamina builds are still the apex in PvP. (as you may know, there's zero penalty on medium armor.)
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  • volkeswagon
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    Last I read they got buffed
  • remosito
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    Last I read they got buffed

    less pen now. sucks for solo.
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  • ebix_
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    mag can easily hit max pen now but if you are stam you can't get max pen unless playing in optimized group.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    ebix_ wrote: »
    mag can easily hit max pen now but if you are stam you can't get max pen unless playing in optimized group.

    @ebix_
    You absolutely can, even as a solo stam player, hit the penetration cap.
    As far as I know the "cap" for penetration in PvE is 18.2k.
    • 2h sharpened = 3276
    • Maces = 3300 (Total: 6.576)
    • The Lover Mundus = 2744 -> w/ 7 divines = 4491 (11.067)
    • Piercing CP = 1400 (12.467)
    • Major Breach = 5948 (18.415)
    • Minor Breach = 2974 (21.389)

    Major Breach is easily granted via Razor Caltrops.
    Minor Breach via Sundered debuff (physical damage status effect, easier to get via Battle Mastery CP)

    Yes, you have to make sacrifices e.g. not having precise or nirnhoned. But you're also already overpenetrating without Minor Breach.
    So you could use e.g. 1 maul & 1 dagger or whatever.

    This is also before unnamed (de-)buffs, enchants or penetration lines from sets.
    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on March 18, 2021 1:44PM
  • SuicideSpleen
    Even Experienced pvp Stam players are no match for mediocre Magicka pvpers. there just gettin Owned out there in cryo. god help us all
  • SuicideSpleen
    And ya know heh. the way i see it. it never really did make sense to go ALL STAM on a class anyway ya know? i mean the point of it is to spread out your skills and Balance out Health/Magicka/Stam...but god sakes dont put ALL ur points into stam just doesnt make sense. it was broken....so it nice to see them finally address this issue *Cheers* :)
  • Eedat
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    In PvE magicka was dominating for quite some time already.

    No it wasn't. Stamina has outclassed mag for a long time. Mag used to have better survivability to make up for it. Then they made the pale order ring and stam is just flat out better.
  • kringled_1
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    Eedat wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    In PvE magicka was dominating for quite some time already.

    No it wasn't. Stamina has outclassed mag for a long time. Mag used to have better survivability to make up for it. Then they made the pale order ring and stam is just flat out better.

    Can you provide some context for your statement? When I look across the various trial discords that I can see, nearly all the leads putting together teams for vdlc trials are looking for an all magicka comp. I can see a few that are fine with stamina, but it mostly looks like those groups aren't trying to optimize very much. I'm sure there may be a few groups running mostly /all stamina for selected trials but it's not something I see very much.
  • Girl_Number8
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    Even Experienced pvp Stam players are no match for mediocre Magicka pvpers. there just gettin Owned out there in cryo. god help us all

    So seasoned Sorcys have come back for a very enjoyable 3 months for them. On the other hand, a lot of people have been playing stam for a very long time now and know the simple burst combos flawlessly.

    Most Sorcs will be mediocre at best and just fold up. Where as mediocre wardens still have a monster kit to drop them or dance around healing forever.

    PvP always changes, if you feel the Socry is best then play one.
  • magnusthorek
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    Vetixio wrote: »
    Are you a time traveler and have gone back to 2015? Cause its still the Elder Stamina Online lol.
    Although it was a nice joke, it hurts my soul a game company favour one side for years and years.

    Balance? Laughable...
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