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Would a Mount Transfer token be a solution to the question of a Class Change token?
MacCait
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For years now we see posts on Class change tokens and can we have them...
While Class Change tokens would be good, some of us can understand why that might be an issue. It occurs to me that maybe another solution might be to do with the mount...
Ok so I have a character that I would like to class change... but why do I want to class change it?... quite simply I do not use that character and found I do not really enjoy that class... So I can easily create a new character in another class and it doesn't take long to level it up. So why not just do that?... the MOUNT!
That is why I really would like a class change token. The fact that it takes 180 days of agony on a crappy mount before you can get a 60 / 60 / 60 mount. The first 120 days are the worst as you have to go from 0 speed and 0 stamina.
You can say, well you can buy speed, stamina, and capacity upgrades. But each of those is 1000 crowns for just 10. To fully upgrade a mount costs 18,000 crowns!! That's just crazy.
So, you have a character where you have levelled your mount up to 60 in Speed, Stamina, and Capacity... and you don't use that character anymore. You can easily create a new character, level skills, and even get skill points very easily in game... But you cannot easily get the upgrade for your mount without either having:
A ) 180 days of agony on a mount before it's fully upgraded
B ) Pay 18,000 crowns for a fully upgraded mount
If you are a new player, this may not be as much of an issue, but as a Veteran in the game since release, this becomes a pain to level a mount from scratch all over again, especially when you already have one maxed out on a character you just don't use anymore. I think that is why a Class Change token would be great.
So two other options maybe a better solution than a class change token:
1) One would be to have a mount transfer token, where you can tranfer your fully upgraded mount from the character you no longer use. So you create a new character, but you've transfered your fully upgraded mount to that new character.
2) Or the other option is a quality of life improvement where anyone who has fully upgraded their mount, has that mount fully upgraded across all characters, just like Collections. ...though this of course would also affect ZOS sales of upgrades.
What are your thoughts?
Edited by MacCait on March 7, 2021 10:58AM While Class Change tokens would be good, some of us can understand why that might be an issue. It occurs to me that maybe another solution might be to do with the mount...
Ok so I have a character that I would like to class change... but why do I want to class change it?... quite simply I do not use that character and found I do not really enjoy that class... So I can easily create a new character in another class and it doesn't take long to level it up. So why not just do that?... the MOUNT!
That is why I really would like a class change token. The fact that it takes 180 days of agony on a crappy mount before you can get a 60 / 60 / 60 mount. The first 120 days are the worst as you have to go from 0 speed and 0 stamina.
You can say, well you can buy speed, stamina, and capacity upgrades. But each of those is 1000 crowns for just 10. To fully upgrade a mount costs 18,000 crowns!! That's just crazy.
So, you have a character where you have levelled your mount up to 60 in Speed, Stamina, and Capacity... and you don't use that character anymore. You can easily create a new character, level skills, and even get skill points very easily in game... But you cannot easily get the upgrade for your mount without either having:
A ) 180 days of agony on a mount before it's fully upgraded
B ) Pay 18,000 crowns for a fully upgraded mount
If you are a new player, this may not be as much of an issue, but as a Veteran in the game since release, this becomes a pain to level a mount from scratch all over again, especially when you already have one maxed out on a character you just don't use anymore. I think that is why a Class Change token would be great.
So two other options maybe a better solution than a class change token:
1) One would be to have a mount transfer token, where you can tranfer your fully upgraded mount from the character you no longer use. So you create a new character, but you've transfered your fully upgraded mount to that new character.
2) Or the other option is a quality of life improvement where anyone who has fully upgraded their mount, has that mount fully upgraded across all characters, just like Collections. ...though this of course would also affect ZOS sales of upgrades.
What are your thoughts?
Would a Mount Transfer token be a solution to the question of a Class Change token? 48 votes
I think a Mount Transfer token is a good idea and could be a solution to Class Change tokens
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2 votes
I think Mount upgrades should be account wide and work through Collections, so all new characters have that level mount as a Quality of Life Improvement
29%
14 votes
I would be happy with either of the first 2 options.
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I just want Class Change tokens, no other solutions
39%
19 votes
Other: state why
27%
13 votes
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rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other: state whyIt would not be sufficient. Consider crafting; trait research is another ridiculous timegate and crafting motifs & recipes is also a major pia. Even part time writ alt needs all progress possible for that because writ rewards depend of those things. There is the extra grind for skill points required.
I myself don't need class change tokens (only doing all max level writs on 2 chars and some with 2 other) but I'm sure some do.7 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Other: state whyNeither is justified in my view. Class change tokens would turn the game on its head and involve massive development work with other far better demands on development time. Mount training is part of the progression common to MMOs and is not unduly problematic especially with the related skill change coming tomorrow.3 -
Mindcr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think Mount upgrades should be account wide and work through Collections, so all new characters have that level mount as a Quality of Life ImprovementMount upgrades should be account wide, but they aren't really the main reason people ask for character change tokens.4 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I don't think mounts is what stops people playing new characters.
Having to level every skill line again (or buy for a lot of crowns for some) or achievements is what stops people for the most part.
Mount is annoying, but probably last on the list. Especially seeing as everyone will have built in rapids next patch.
The solution to class change tokens is to just bite the bullet, invest the time and grind a new character.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Other: state whyIf you think the mounts are the reason people want to change classes, you have not been reading what people are telling you.
The mount issue is minimal. After you have 30 speed, you are pretty much set and can just finish upgrading as you play.
That said, after the next update, with Major Gallop becoming a passive, this is going to be even less of an issue.
The Moot Councillor2 -
Sangwyne✭✭✭✭✭
✭I just want Class Change tokens, no other solutionsWe don't need more random tokens, stop giving them ideas! No horse tokens, no skyshard tokens, no zone completion tokens, no award tokens, please just let us port over progress from one character to another or give us class change tokens without breaking them up into 30 different progression tokens.0 -
CaptainVenom✭✭✭✭✭
✭I just want Class Change tokens, no other solutionsNo. We still have trait research, achievements, and so on.🌈 Ride with Pride🌈
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Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Other: state whyYou forgot about all the other available things on a character. Mounts are just a tiny part of a character's journey. That said, I am against an easy class change token. Meaning I feel it should come with an investment, like having to relevel or something like that.
Your poll is biased as it does not include the option to not want a class change token. Or other midway point solutions for class change tokens: like a rebirth, relevel, or other prerequirement solution to be able to change classes.0 -
emilyhyoyeon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I just want Class Change tokens, no other solutionsI think we should get class change tokens and have mount upgrades in collections.IGN @ emilypumpkin
Tullanisse Starborne altmer spellsword battlemage & scholar of the ayleids
Qa'Rirra khajiit assassin & dancer
Seliwequen Narilata altmer necromancer & debaucher0 -
MacCait✭✭✭✭✭
✭You forgot about all the other available things on a character. Mounts are just a tiny part of a character's journey. That said, I am against an easy class change token. Meaning I feel it should come with an investment, like having to relevel or something like that.
Your poll is biased as it does not include the option to not want a class change token. Or other midway point solutions for class change tokens: like a rebirth, relevel, or other prerequirement solution to be able to change classes.
Poll is not biased. You chose the option for other... that is the option for not wanting a class change option as it includes everything else. Plus I have not voted either way. I was just interested in the discussion and the consensus of what most players actually want.0 -
notyuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other: state whyit would be insufficent due to- Achivements
- Crafting recpies
- Known Motifs
- Trait research
- Inventory upgrades
- skill points
- quest progress
- skill lines
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Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Other: state whyit would be insufficent due to- Achivements
- Crafting recpies
- Known Motifs
- Trait research
- Inventory upgrades
- skill points
- quest progress
- skill lines
Exactly. Mount training is tedious but I expect is the least of what anyone regrets to lose when starting a new character. It’s just a small click and minimal fee to pay for 180 days. I’ve recreated characters that had little invested in them beyond mount training because I wanted to change their name or appearance.0 -
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✭✭Other: state whyAll of the Above.
If I can chose for QoL elements, or the amount of money I get for free I would say: Yes.0 -
etchedpixels✭✭✭✭✭
✭I just want Class Change tokens, no other solutionsMount is mostly resolved in the PTS changes anyway so why does it matter ?
Too many toons not enough time1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Other: state whyWe don't need more random tokens, stop giving them ideas! No horse tokens, no skyshard tokens, no zone completion tokens, no award tokens, please just let us port over progress from one character to another or give us class change tokens without breaking them up into 30 different progression tokens.
An even better way of not giving them ideas would be for players to stop asking for tokens altogether, and get what they want by playing the game.0