I have 1065 cp at the moment. Does my cp change after update 29 or it will stay the same?
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭MaxWacksem wrote: »AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.
I did not farm CP i farm EXP points.
It is logick like: you have 100$
Some other currency is now 2 times cheaper.
So we take your $ currency - convert it to that currency, you now have the same amount -> and convert it yo $ again.
Ooops you now have 50$.
But do not worry you can farm more now, becouse that currncy is cheaper.
Always double standarts and always you get the less value from both, that you can.
But in first place i have $ currency not that another.
I farm EXP points not CP.
So how my EXP points i get can be converted in first place ?
Glad you brought up currency.
It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
I do not think logick like this work hear becouse i did not buy CP.
But such changes are always bad.
But lose a lot of player base each update may be is new trend.
I know a lot of games, that do the same.
Some of them are already close a lot of servers.
But if no people - no lugs at all.
So may be it is good for the game ... .
You did, in fact *buy* CP automatically with your XP. Whenever you reach a new CP threshold, you give your XP to ZOS and they give you a CP in return. It happens automatically, but that's how it is.
And ZOS adjusted the CP cap 10 times before they decided to stop and rework the system, and in none of those adjustments did anyone get their CP recalculated.
So they are doing the same thing they have always done. But it's going to be A LOT faster to earn CP after Monday for those of us that are above the current cap.Hallothiel wrote: »
May be take half of peoples money,DLC cwowns they have to then ?
It is just the same.
Just stealing our time and exp points.
I mean, if I bought the Clockwork City for 2000 crowns and now it's on sale for 1000, did ZOS steal 1000 crowns from me?
You can show different analogy, but people who do buy or not buy better know themselve do they do it or not ok ?
And if people think it is bad - they just do not like it, it will not change.
You can say it is auto buy and etc but:
When changes that make all Crowns 10 times different in price to gold, or changes that broke any gold , resources and etc prices change a lot or a lot of buged moneys appear - what do people say ?
Nothing good and live the game.
For last 2 years i can not say a lot of good thing about TESO.
3 years ago it was the best game i have ever seen.
If it stay just the same, i can even say it after that 3 years.
But current situation is different.
And it is not some change that i will go away from the game. But game just show that is even worse then before.
The change i live the game in the same second i see it is:
Gear cap change. May be some game balance changes, like - 1 top set 1 button press to win. Or buy +12 to your gear stats by donating.
Even with out thinking.
And if to much changes like current for to much updates,with nothing good.
And i really do not think that change prize to game is good.
If it is too cheap - it change prices, market, how player play, bugs, if game is too cheap - we see bots.
So such changes are always bad, they do not make game any better, just make people more angry.Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 1:18PM0 -
Env_t✭✭✭ectoplasmicninja wrote: »They adjusted the XP curve (the amount of XP needed to achieve a CP) up to CP1800. So levelling up to 1800 will be much faster than it used to be. They didn't say anything about adjusting the XP gain below level 50, and I doubt that's been touched.
where you got that info?
@ectoplasmicninja
new softcap is 1020 now, afaik
based on it all cp levels above and before is cost less
up to 3600Edited by Env_t on March 3, 2021 1:18PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ectoplasmicninja wrote: »They adjusted the XP curve (the amount of XP needed to achieve a CP) up to CP1800. So levelling up to 1800 will be much faster than it used to be. They didn't say anything about adjusting the XP gain below level 50, and I doubt that's been touched.
where you got that info?
@ectoplasmicninja
new softcap is 1020 now, afaik
based on it all cp levels above and before is cost less
up to 3600
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Xuhora✭✭✭✭✭i just wanted to say i will tune out of this dicussion, since there are 3 or 4 threads about the exact same thing in the PTS category, where some of us repeat the same lines as we do here.
there is the viewpoint of us who are for the equity which comes with the fact that we dont get compensated
there is the viewpoint of the other who feel robbed of something because they valuate different things
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Hallothiel wrote: »Still confused. As far as I see, nothing has been ‘stolen’ from me, nor is Zos being devious.
I have been playing since before the change from vet to cp came in, I get the xp/cp points I get at the rate for my level, and that is fine. As far as I have seen, I will have the same number of cp after the update as before - so what is the issue?
I really don’t understand exactly what @AyaDark is wanting.
If you see same numbers in CP you see different numbers in MOBs you need to kill to get it.
So now you have just the same number of CP as people who kill 500 mobs if you kill 1000.
So based on your CP now much less exp people will have more CP than you in future - or just go farm mobs again, that you farm to not farm it in future.
A lot of people farm CP after 810+, becouse they hope:
If some bad update - and CAP will go Up again, i hope i will not need to farm it again !
But ZOS just say - go ... yourself.
And as before you farm arena for weapon, now farm the same arena 100 more times, go and farm your CP again, untill we do something bad again.
To not let people play calmly.
And then we do some thing bad again, a lot of people, that hope newer do some... will needto do the same ... again, that they hope newer do in future.
You can change ... to some thing bad - i havenot aready fantasy to wright anything bad already.
I soon will just use ZOS and TESO like new swear word.
So will not need to wright any other bad words.Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 1:34PM0 -
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✭@Env_t The latest patch notes raised the cap to 1800, as that is the point at which vertical progression actually stops given all the various combat-related passives.PC NA, CP2500+. Character creation is the true endgame.0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭ectoplasmicninja wrote: »@Env_t The latest patch notes raised the cap to 1800, as that is the point at which vertical progression actually stops given all the various combat-related passives.
Greate, so now farm 400 more CP to next update, whyle they will not decide to change it again?
Or may be remove and wipe all our progress, that we must be happy to kill the samemobs1 million more times ?
And than they decide that vertical is bad and they need horizontal.
And refarm all sets.
And than they decide the different wayagain.
Like *2 more power od dots.
No 1 /10 power of dots.
No * 100 power of dots !
No 1/1000 power of dots !!!
No !!!!
It looks really strange.
It is more hard for me to belive that competent game creator can balance the game such way.
I always see such changes on free shards
Free shards just wipe and reopen to get donation from new players.
And i want to hope i play some official one.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hallothiel wrote: »Still confused. As far as I see, nothing has been ‘stolen’ from me, nor is Zos being devious.
I have been playing since before the change from vet to cp came in, I get the xp/cp points I get at the rate for my level, and that is fine. As far as I have seen, I will have the same number of cp after the update as before - so what is the issue?
I really don’t understand exactly what @AyaDark is wanting.
If you see same numbers in CP you see different numbers in MOBs you need to kill to get it.
So now you have just the same number of CP as people who kill 500 mobs if you kill 1000.
So based on your CP now much less exp people will have more CP than you in future - or just go farm mobs again, that you farm to not farm it in future.
A lot of people farm CP after 810+, becouse they hope:
If some bad update - and CAP will go Up again, i hope i will not need to farm it again !
But ZOS just say - go ... yourself.
And as before you farm arena for weapon, now farm the same arena 100 more times, go and farm your CP again, untill we do something bad again.
To not let people play calmly.
And then we do some thing bad again, a lot of people, that hope newer do some... will needto do the same ... again, that they hope newer do in future.
You can change ... to some thing bad - i havenot aready fantasy to wright anything bad already.
I soon will just use ZOS and TESO like new swear word.
So will not need to wright any other bad words.
I mean, the whole point of changing the XP scale is to make it easier for players newer than us to get to our CP level.
If you weren't playing since launch, it made it easier for YOU to get to 810, then to my CP level and probably pass it, since you say you farmed CP after 810.
I'm not mad at you for it.The Moot Councillor1 -
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✭✭✭etchedpixels wrote: »[
you say you should get 5 CPs because 5 CPs now cost 200k XP.
you lose exactly nothing, as you had 2 CPs before and you will have 2 CPs after.
Depends on your point of view. Someone who is CP 810 now is still CP 810 after but will soon be surrounded by CP 810 players who previously would only have made CP 600 or so. So in a sense yes - it reduces the value of the existing achievement.
Imagine if you got Godslayer and then they made sunspire veteran really easy and everyone had it, or you got to be a 9 trait crafter and then someone sold "9 trait crafting unlock" on the crown store - you'd feel the same way I suspect ?
I'm currently stacking most of my enlightenment for the changeover 8)
am at like 954 champion points from casual gameplay over the past few years
if in that time span someone hit 600, it seems likely to me that as quickly as they will hit 954, my own points will be rocketing up as well
but yeah, as someone who has been playing since beta and has 9 trait crafting, 9 trait unlock would not bother me; just because I have been signed up for the game for longer does not mean that newer players should not be able to get to end game in a reasonable span of time
have honestly not tried running veteran or normal sunspire but if they made it really easy to get the cheevo and anything associated that would potentially motivate me to give it a go after all this time"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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✭Hallothiel wrote: »
We farm expirience points, we did some work, spend our time.
If CP stay the same it will then say to us:
You get 6 millionof EXP point.
By 6 EXP points you get 1400 CP.
So now we take your 3 millions EXP that you farm.
So you are again 1400 CP.
What ???
May be take half of peoples money,DLC cwowns they have to then ?
It is just the same.
Just stealing our time and exp points.
And in reality 1400 CP and 3000 CP will have same DPS, but more comfroft.
Do we need to farm that 3 million EXP they steal again ?
We lose our time for that.
It is hard disrespect to OLD players !!!
Numbers are just as example, they are not real.
And each EXP point is real mob you kill and real time you spend.
Just as you do when you farm gold or resources, so why such changes ?
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Hallothiel wrote: »Still confused. As far as I see, nothing has been ‘stolen’ from me, nor is Zos being devious.
I have been playing since before the change from vet to cp came in, I get the xp/cp points I get at the rate for my level, and that is fine. As far as I have seen, I will have the same number of cp after the update as before - so what is the issue?
I really don’t understand exactly what @AyaDark is wanting.
If you see same numbers in CP you see different numbers in MOBs you need to kill to get it.
So now you have just the same number of CP as people who kill 500 mobs if you kill 1000.
So based on your CP now much less exp people will have more CP than you in future - or just go farm mobs again, that you farm to not farm it in future.
A lot of people farm CP after 810+, becouse they hope:
If some bad update - and CAP will go Up again, i hope i will not need to farm it again !
But ZOS just say - go ... yourself.
And as before you farm arena for weapon, now farm the same arena 100 more times, go and farm your CP again, untill we do something bad again.
To not let people play calmly.
And then we do some thing bad again, a lot of people, that hope newer do some... will needto do the same ... again, that they hope newer do in future.
You can change ... to some thing bad - i havenot aready fantasy to wright anything bad already.
I soon will just use ZOS and TESO like new swear word.
So will not need to wright any other bad words.
I mean, the whole point of changing the XP scale is to make it easier for players newer than us to get to our CP level.
If you weren't playing since launch, it made it easier for YOU to get to 810, then to my CP level and probably pass it, since you say you farmed CP after 810.
I'm not mad at you for it.
So player with 2 times lessexp then you will soon have the same CP as you.Hallothiel wrote: »Still confused. As far as I see, nothing has been ‘stolen’ from me, nor is Zos being devious.
I have been playing since before the change from vet to cp came in, I get the xp/cp points I get at the rate for my level, and that is fine. As far as I have seen, I will have the same number of cp after the update as before - so what is the issue?
I really don’t understand exactly what @AyaDark is wanting.
If you see same numbers in CP you see different numbers in MOBs you need to kill to get it.
So now you have just the same number of CP as people who kill 500 mobs if you kill 1000.
So based on your CP now much less exp people will have more CP than you in future - or just go farm mobs again, that you farm to not farm it in future.
A lot of people farm CP after 810+, becouse they hope:
If some bad update - and CAP will go Up again, i hope i will not need to farm it again !
But ZOS just say - go ... yourself.
And as before you farm arena for weapon, now farm the same arena 100 more times, go and farm your CP again, untill we do something bad again.
To not let people play calmly.
And then we do some thing bad again, a lot of people, that hope newer do some... will needto do the same ... again, that they hope newer do in future.
You can change ... to some thing bad - i havenot aready fantasy to wright anything bad already.
I soon will just use ZOS and TESO like new swear word.
So will not need to wright any other bad words.
I mean, the whole point of changing the XP scale is to make it easier for players newer than us to get to our CP level.
If you weren't playing since launch, it made it easier for YOU to get to 810, then to my CP level and probably pass it, since you say you farmed CP after 810.
I'm not mad at you for it.
Ok.
What is a point for it.
Now we need 1800 CP, so we need to farm it again.
And new player will get the same CP as you have now soon.
But his game EXP will be low, so we will hear about : To much unexp players, make DLC for 800+ players ?
So skilled players who can pass in 160+ get problems.
It was realy good that it was a cap of 810+.
Becouse we can do not exp.
And we do exp only becouse we hope if that ZOS up cap again we will not need exp.
For a lot of people it was why they farm it. To not be less than CAP to farm it again and again.
I was 160 CP i run vDLC with easy. Always pass it.
But oh my he is only 400 CP it is to small for tratata. Ok i take 600, but the next day CAP increased !!!
I take 700 - NOPE -> 810.
Now i am 810 + nope -> 1800.
Ok i am really 1400+, do not even know true number myself.
When i take 1800+ CP what ????
Change a CP system again ?Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 2:04PM0 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hallothiel wrote: »
We farm expirience points, we did some work, spend our time.
If CP stay the same it will then say to us:
You get 6 millionof EXP point.
By 6 EXP points you get 1400 CP.
So now we take your 3 millions EXP that you farm.
So you are again 1400 CP.
What ???
May be take half of peoples money,DLC cwowns they have to then ?
It is just the same.
Just stealing our time and exp points.
And in reality 1400 CP and 3000 CP will have same DPS, but more comfroft.
Do we need to farm that 3 million EXP they steal again ?
We lose our time for that.
It is hard disrespect to OLD players !!!
Numbers are just as example, they are not real.
And each EXP point is real mob you kill and real time you spend.
Just as you do when you farm gold or resources, so why such changes ?
I must say I agree about XP part
I wish the exp I have gotten from leveling my characters to champion rank was added to my champion point tally
it's all exp so it should all go towards the abstract total associated with my accountEdited by Samadhi on March 3, 2021 2:04PM"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭I hope no need to EXP in game again.
With all of such changes.
And refarm all gold gear i collect for 3 years, including gold 160 Jevelery.
But who knows, may be 300+ CP gear next update - so just delete the game and be happy.
Even in China games was not such bad game changes with all their pay to win stuff.
Just take max lvl and play happy.
But as i see new game makers thing that it is so much fun.
I am really miss old lore master and old times.
Becouse NO SUCH CHANGES.Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 2:12PM0 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I hope i will newer need to EXP again.
With all of such changes.
And refarm all gold gear i collect for 3 years, including gold 160 Jevelery.
But who knows, may be 300+ CP gearnext update- so just delete the game a teso and be happy.
yeah the reason they are updating the champion point system is definitely so they can raise gear caps
some of us have been refarming gold gear since Vet 10 turned to Vet 12 cap, then Vet 14 cap, then Vet 16 cap...
"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭I hope i will newer need to EXP again.
With all of such changes.
And refarm all gold gear i collect for 3 years, including gold 160 Jevelery.
But who knows, may be 300+ CP gearnext update- so just delete the game a teso and be happy.
yeah the reason they are updating the champion point system is definitely so they can raise gear caps
some of us have been refarming gold gear since Vet 10 turned to Vet 12 cap, then Vet 14 cap, then Vet 16 cap...
Oh my god !
Ok, AION2 and BNS2 will come soon, i hope they will be good, so we will have a backup plan for such changes.0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭So this game is about refarming the same in same content for millions of time then ?
It make sense.
Thats why i already refarm arena 2 times and max CP for 3 -> 4 times soon.
Next all gold gear ? (I think i will stop just on this).0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hallothiel wrote: »Still confused. As far as I see, nothing has been ‘stolen’ from me, nor is Zos being devious.
I have been playing since before the change from vet to cp came in, I get the xp/cp points I get at the rate for my level, and that is fine. As far as I have seen, I will have the same number of cp after the update as before - so what is the issue?
I really don’t understand exactly what @AyaDark is wanting.
If you see same numbers in CP you see different numbers in MOBs you need to kill to get it.
So now you have just the same number of CP as people who kill 500 mobs if you kill 1000.
So based on your CP now much less exp people will have more CP than you in future - or just go farm mobs again, that you farm to not farm it in future.
A lot of people farm CP after 810+, becouse they hope:
If some bad update - and CAP will go Up again, i hope i will not need to farm it again !
But ZOS just say - go ... yourself.
And as before you farm arena for weapon, now farm the same arena 100 more times, go and farm your CP again, untill we do something bad again.
To not let people play calmly.
And then we do some thing bad again, a lot of people, that hope newer do some... will needto do the same ... again, that they hope newer do in future.
You can change ... to some thing bad - i havenot aready fantasy to wright anything bad already.
I soon will just use ZOS and TESO like new swear word.
So will not need to wright any other bad words.
I mean, the whole point of changing the XP scale is to make it easier for players newer than us to get to our CP level.
If you weren't playing since launch, it made it easier for YOU to get to 810, then to my CP level and probably pass it, since you say you farmed CP after 810.
I'm not mad at you for it.
So player with 2 times lessexp then you will soon have the same CP as you.Hallothiel wrote: »Still confused. As far as I see, nothing has been ‘stolen’ from me, nor is Zos being devious.
I have been playing since before the change from vet to cp came in, I get the xp/cp points I get at the rate for my level, and that is fine. As far as I have seen, I will have the same number of cp after the update as before - so what is the issue?
I really don’t understand exactly what @AyaDark is wanting.
If you see same numbers in CP you see different numbers in MOBs you need to kill to get it.
So now you have just the same number of CP as people who kill 500 mobs if you kill 1000.
So based on your CP now much less exp people will have more CP than you in future - or just go farm mobs again, that you farm to not farm it in future.
A lot of people farm CP after 810+, becouse they hope:
If some bad update - and CAP will go Up again, i hope i will not need to farm it again !
But ZOS just say - go ... yourself.
And as before you farm arena for weapon, now farm the same arena 100 more times, go and farm your CP again, untill we do something bad again.
To not let people play calmly.
And then we do some thing bad again, a lot of people, that hope newer do some... will needto do the same ... again, that they hope newer do in future.
You can change ... to some thing bad - i havenot aready fantasy to wright anything bad already.
I soon will just use ZOS and TESO like new swear word.
So will not need to wright any other bad words.
I mean, the whole point of changing the XP scale is to make it easier for players newer than us to get to our CP level.
If you weren't playing since launch, it made it easier for YOU to get to 810, then to my CP level and probably pass it, since you say you farmed CP after 810.
I'm not mad at you for it.
Ok.
What is a point for it.
Now we need 1800 CP, so we need to farm it again.
And new player will get the same CP as you have now soon.
But his game EXP will be low, so we will hear about : To much unexp players, make DLC for 800+ players ?
So skilled players who can pass in 160+ get problems.
It was realy good that it was a cap of 810+.
Becouse we can do not exp.
And we do exp only becouse we hope if that ZOS up cap again we will not need exp.
For a lot of people it was why they farm it. To not be less than CAP to farm it again and again.
I was 160 CP i run vDLC with easy. Always pass it.
But oh my he is only 400 CP it is to small for tratata. Ok i take 600, but the next day CAP increased !!!
I take 700 - NOPE -> 810.
Now i am 810 + nope -> 1800.
Ok i am really 1400+, do not even know true number myself.
When i take 1800+ CP what ????
Change a CP system again ?
So if you're at 1400+ you are probably ahead of me, as I'm at 1428 (almost 1429).
And I assure you it took you less XP to get there than it did me. Because I've never earned a CP for less than 400k XP. I've always been above the cap and subject to the 50% penalty.
And that's ok if it means newer players have an easier time catching up to where they feel competitive.
Also, while 1800 is the "cap", people say that you need between 1100-1200 to be effective in your role, and after that it's just horizontal progression.
I'm personally more concerned about the crafting passives.The Moot Councillor0 -
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✭I think I recall Rich saying at some point that they wouldn't look at changing the gear cap until they redid the champion point system (don't quote me on this, I just seem to remember it from somewhere). But even if they do adjust gear cap, we now have the collections system, so if gear cap suddenly became CP300, we could just recreate all our sets with transmute crystals and upgrade mats without having to farm for the pieces again. Unless instead we got a higher quality than legendary with some ultra rare upgrade temper, which...please no.
However, what they're doing with the CP change is nerfing us in order to fight power creep, so I don't think they're going to promptly give everyone a way to get stronger or it will all have been for nothing.PC NA, CP2500+. Character creation is the true endgame.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The "cap" is just for the formula for calculating the XP needed for the next CP. There is a 67%!!! reduction in this for the next update.
You don't need the "cap" to do content in the game.
In fact, many of the respected content creators in this game have shown that you max out your role-specific stats at about 1100 CP. 1500 CP gives you your off-stat bonus/status effect bonus. and at 1800 there is complete stop of vertical progression. (and from 1500-1800 it's getting a bonus on your HoTs, which if you're a DPS, do you really need)
There is a HUGE misunderstanding about what the "cap" of 1800 is and what the actual "cap" is based on what you need to be effective at the game.
They have just made it so much easier to reach parity in the game because they have reduced the XP grind by a massive, massive amount.
They have also drastically reduced the effectiveness of CP on the actual gameplay, it is at best a tertiary effect.
That same content creator did a no-CP parse on live and on PTS to compare. The PTS character had a nearly 50%!! increase in DPS. From 55k to just above 75k. In comparison their full CP character went from 110k to 100k
So, we've gone from CP having a doubling effect (100% increase) on your DPS (from 55k to 110k) to it having a 33% increase on your DPS (75k to 100k).
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭ectoplasmicninja wrote: »I think I recall Rich saying at some point that they wouldn't look at changing the gear cap until they redid the champion point system (don't quote me on this, I just seem to remember it from somewhere). But even if they do adjust gear cap, we now have the collections system, so if gear cap suddenly became CP300, we could just recreate all our sets with transmute crystals and upgrade mats without having to farm for the pieces again. Unless instead we got a higher quality than legendary with some ultra rare upgrade temper, which...please no.
However, what they're doing with the CP change is nerfing us in order to fight power creep, so I don't think they're going to promptly give everyone a way to get stronger or it will all have been for nothing.
I can recreate gear, but i lose all gold materials i spend on it. It is thing i afraid the most.
Just 1/8 your money and collection.
Farm again ? I think no.
We recraft all perfect weapon to gold again not to match time ago by the way.
So just -> remove all old gold weapons.
I already lose a lot.
But same with jevelery - will be end of the game for me.
Gold jevelery cost 200 k per one now.
I will not say anything good about teso than.
Just have the same in other game - PW.
Where from reach player i become player with no money just from one update in one day.Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 3:21PM0 -
allhailskippy✭✭✭✭✭Experience is not a currency. You have lost nothing.
Perhaps if you want to play a game that does not evolve, you move to a single player game on a console not attached to the internet.Hireling Wanted! - An Elder Scrolls Tale https://hirelingwanted.com2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
Actually it is. If you buy an item full price and then it goes on sale, you can take it back to the store with your receipt and they will refund you the difference if it's still within the return time frame, which is usually 30 days. Basically they take the item as a return, refund the full price, then you purchase it right back at the sale price.PCNA0 -
allhailskippy✭✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
Actually it is. If you buy an item full price and then it goes on sale, you can take it back to the store with your receipt and they will refund you the difference if it's still within the return time frame, which is usually 30 days. Basically they take the item as a return, refund the full price, then you purchase it right back at the sale price.
Agreed upon at the point of sale. If they didn't agree upon that when they sold the item, there's no obligation to do what you're suggesting here.Hireling Wanted! - An Elder Scrolls Tale https://hirelingwanted.com1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Do we keep the exact points we have now? Or are they adjusted?
For example if someone is CP 810 are their points prorated to the new max, or do they stay 810 and and have to build from there?
I've been back 2 years and still am not 810, and I play a few hours every day. Now they are raising the cap to more than 4 times this? At this rate I'll never reach the cap unless they do prorate.Edited by SilverBride on March 4, 2021 5:21PMPCNA0 -
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I think he is just saying that his current CP will not be equal to the amount of experience he has in the new system. Someone new coming along, that earns his same amount of experience, will have way more CP.Hallothiel wrote: »Still confused. As far as I see, nothing has been ‘stolen’ from me, nor is Zos being devious.
I have been playing since before the change from vet to cp came in, I get the xp/cp points I get at the rate for my level, and that is fine. As far as I have seen, I will have the same number of cp after the update as before - so what is the issue?
I really don’t understand exactly what @AyaDark is wanting.
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I'm glad you said that because it made me realize I better hold on to the daily reward experience scrolls I'm getting until after the patch.PCNA0 -
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Farming CP has always been a waste of time.
It will continue to be a waste after the patch.Hireling Wanted! - An Elder Scrolls Tale https://hirelingwanted.com0