Sure, I did only quests, only killed the “red” enemies and never any yellow or white ones, and didn’t do any stealing for a long time.

Then I found out that you could only get some motif pages from thieving activities, and then Murkmire had so few unowned containers, that I finally did level up Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood so I could more easily obtain these items.

My character’s story became that she kinda went crazy when she was unable to properly furnish her home and went over to the dark side, lol!

Depends what you consider "moral" in each situation. You could just use shadow cloak and sneak past 90% of enemies so you don't have to kill them.

Now, is my nightblade a good person? Nah. She may be the hero of the story (multiple stories) but she's done some pretty awful things.

She'd be charged with:

• Breaking the Green Pact to become a werewolf
• Eating people she killed as a werewolf
• Attacking some civilians in the middle of town as a werewolf
• Ripping the energy from several soulshriven and destroying them in the process
• Stealing from people in the same cities whose rulers consider her a friend
• Killing Dominion soldiers outside of Dominion territory (they started it)
• Killing Dominion soldiers inside Dominion territory as a werewolf (they started it too)
• Killing defenseless animals to stay a werewolf longer
• Sabotaging a duel
• Killing an assassin after they surrendered

Athan1 wrote: »

If you steal people's life force, manipulate their blood, strike them from the shadows... Can you play as a "good" and moral Nightblade? How?

Tbh I just wish I could dye my Templar's holy light red...

As someone said, only kill bad people, how you do so it doesn't really matter IMO.

Besides, my character would be a scoundrel even if she was a Templar, so it's not a class issue

Depends what morals do you chose. Also situation in which you appear. Better to see classes like an education of sorts, nightblade can be an agent for example and use his force to lesser extent, just play with the concepts and see what flows your boat.

Yes, you can. Just kill everyone you want and claim that you do this for the democracy

Athan1 wrote: »

Can you play as a "good" and moral Nightblade? How?

ofc you can - even if that is not the main focus for that class.
- For normal quests there is no difference to kill or not kill compared to other classes.
- For a lot of other quests you can sneak easier then other classes and prevent any kill at all by that.
- For group play I know some NB-healer too.

Of course they can. Just like templars can be good or evil, or sorcerers, or necromancers, or dragon knights, or wardens.

The individual is what matter, not the tools they use.

I think that certainly - yes, you can.

Shadowscales for example, are Argonians that although were train to be assassins, in Argonian culture they act as a judges & sheriffs, ending disputes amongst tribes. They are treated with respect and often other Argonians seek their guides and advice.

Other thing that comes to mind is a Thief. Thiefs are not "evil" by nature or anything like that. Especially if they rob from the rich & give to the poor. They can be good.

Same with assassins. You can be a "good" assassin by killing "evil" people (slavers for example).

My character that most leans more towards good than towards evil never lied to an NPC while doing a quest so long as telling the truth was an option. She also never made a decision while doing a quest based on what was best or easiest for her.

She will kill you though if you are standing by a chest that might have something in it she wants and you are in the way.

Nightblade skills are typical restoration (swallow soul, path, dark cloak), illusion (invis cloak, mass hysteria), alteration (mirage), destruction (merciless resolve, execute), etc spells, some can even be considered conjuration depending on the interpretation. They aren't necessarily evil weird villain skills, like stealth isn't inherently evil.

I'll talk about drain health since that seems to be the focus in the op. Drain health is just a type of restoration spell that hurts the target (and heals the caster). The same pejorative-ness can be put on the sorcerer lightning magic skills. Mages fury violently kills people with a powerful lightning strike--why is the drain health more evil tbh? Because it sounds spookier conceptually since I didn't think of a more grotesque way of describing it I guess?

As others have said, it comes down to how the skills are used.

I can sort of see a case for inherent evilness necromancer skills, but definitely not nightblade.

Thanks for your input! There's something appealing to NB skills, but also off-putting because of how explicit violence is. But like others said, every class kills stuff so the means don't really matter, since lethal damage is inflicted in any case...

It's all up to you. While I agree that classes like templar and warden are considered to be "good" and necro and nb "evil", you can roleplay and make up a story behind your character. I recommend making a custom outfit and theme for your nb, and that way you can potray your character like a good person.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Athan1 wrote: »

Thanks for your input! There's something appealing to NB skills, but also off-putting because of how explicit violence is. But like others said, every class kills stuff so the means don't really matter, since lethal damage is inflicted in any case...

Hmm, no one else commented on the particular target you at fighting, like I did with “red”, “yellow”, and “white”. Maybe you don’t have this turned on in Options or don’t pay any attention.

Red targets are aggressive and will attack you on sight. So I consider attacking those targets to be okay, it’s self defense.

Yellow targets will not attack you until you attack them. I avoid these as well, I just don’t like provoking them. They are harmless otherwise.

White targets are “innocents”. Attacking them will give you a bounty, they are unarmed. Definitely a no-no for morality’s sake.

Yep, that makes a difference too.