Good news buddy. The previous meta was an axe and a dagger. New meta involves two daggers now. If you didn't have either before this upcoming patch, then you haven't grinded for them yet, and would need to get them yourself anyways.

The sticker book solves lots of this problem to as people are more willing to give up an bis weapon after a run.
Before you wanted to hold on to it as you might want to use if for an alt.

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Even less reason for people to do group content.? Gotta be a no for me..

So you do group content only for items?

Not to meet people, not for fun, not to experience the dungeon, not take on a challenge, not for the story, not to achievements.

If you are going to a dungeon only for the items then the game it's on it's decline. Think about it why do games die?


How can I explain this one you are going to love it. I'll put it in fragmented thought because I cant explain it fully right now. I can see it but not explain it well.

1. RNG splits the player base making people with higher RNG success move past the rest.


3. Dungeon groups are segregated in to top tier and the rest. Even if you join a guild. The top tier continue to move past the rest every time new content is released. Being top tier is more desirable in groups. Few want to take the time to train an teach somebody with the day before yesterdays build. (we'll come back to this)


3. New players with the new content won't even be able to play that new dungeon content anytime soon. As they have to wait on RNG to favor them. Some will shoot up to the top fast while others will stay with the rest. There is no true systematic way to move up in the game. So over time you don't truly improve yourself. You are truly waiting for RNG to improve your person. It's an illusion of improvement.

4. More content will come out that nobody who bought the game in the last year will buy (although they've been finding ways to make it accessible to all players like the mythics I think) because they simply can't access it. They are still waiting for rng to improve them.

5. ZoS changes sets that will make their current grind useless. Top tiers have been raking in the money because they simply get more groups and thus more items to barter with.

6. At some point the rest will leave. Leaving the top tiers and the few people who have high RNG success. However even they will see that they can't jump the gap because they can't ride on the rest anymore. At this point most MMO games are at it's downhill phase. Prices start to inflate As top tiers are targeting top tiers with their prices. Time becomes a hot commodity.

7. This stops EVERY new player from getting into the game. Most people on are only running the newer dungeons. All of the older dungeons are dead because the sets are deemed worthless compared to the new items.

All this because we kept a RNG only system to improve ourselves.

We need a progressive system that improve ourselves so we know that every one is moving up over time. Every time a top tier helps somebody in the guild/random it's not wasted time. It moves towards something tangible. It invests in the games overall playerbase. We know that if we give time here and there, the newer/current players WILL be improved. They WILL be able to contribute into moving the games overall experience positively. We AVOID THAT death when we put a true progression system.

As time is not wasted. It all comes back to time. Even when the top tiers are the last ones playing the game. Those prices inflate because it's a top tier who wasted time on an RNG system to finally make an item drop trying to pull as much gold as possible from another top tier to save him time. This cuts out ANYBODY trying to move up. Following what some other MMO did years ago thinking that it is still relevant today is the wrong way of looking at things.

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Redguards_Revenge wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Even less reason for people to do group content.? Gotta be a no for me..

So you do group content only for items?

Not to meet people, not for fun, not to experience the dungeon, not take on a challenge, not for the story, not to achievements.

To my knowledge, I never mentioned any of those things in my reply.? Feel free to inform me if I am incorrect.. What I DID mention, was that your idea would give people even less reason to go into group content.. are you saying that it is not so.? Because the way I see it, with your suggestion, we don't have to run it as much as we do now.. just get any weapon, and you can have the one you need.. let's take HRC.. I have never, ever, run it without getting a weapon.. now I can just grab any 1 item and get the weapon I need.. so let's say 12 runs total for weapons.. 12 is not a high number by any means.. now after those 12, why would I go there again? With a good sharing group, I will have the armor too.. now I could not care less about HRC.. that removes me from the pool.. me and many many more.. bad call

I posted here that I would do it again to help others because I know there is a step up for progress to get the item and not random chance. My time isn't wasted on waiting for random chance. It would make me want to interact with people more knowing I am moving them towards something rather than just waiting and using random chance to proc for them. These old mechanics are done. They work for the beginning of the game when there's many people running it but it fails over the lifetime of an MMO. It leads to the death actually because nobody is going to waste time waiting for proc to occur. That's why prices inflate. Less people are doing the content and nobody will waste the time for random chance. Having a system that progresses you to what you want is a strong solution that not only helps you but everybody in the game.