My conclusions about this test after playing ALOT of hours daily: >:)

Aixy · February 2021

My conclusions about this test after playing ALOT of hours daily:

Same lag as before the test.-

Same crashes as before the test.-

Prime time unplayable.-

Same FPS degradation over time (After playing few hours you have this bug and your fps drops to 10, the fix for this is change zone or log out but if u leading a raid you lost the crown and requeue).-

Hammer = Worst lag ever.-

Three weeks of "testing" is alot of time (sorry but the test already failed), hope u can revert this.-

(Playing PC - NA- Gray Host)

NeillMcAttack · February 2021

People on NA are reporting that Blackreach is a lot better. Have you tried there?

Starlight_Knight · February 2021

My impressions are that the game play and pvp experience is 100% better without all the proc sets. its so nice! i hope the proc sets will be gone for ever.

Performance - better! unless theres balls groups on then its a joke. when ever there is a ball group about the game will not work, then the ball groups lag cc you and you just melt.
There were 3 organised ball groups on the other night on no cp EU, one ball group for each alliance and the game play was appaling just like before the test.

Conclusion, PVP is so much better without proc sets and being able to heal outside of group - Lag is unchanged.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · February 2021

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People on NA are reporting that Blackreach is a lot better. Have you tried there?

Blackreach is better because no one players there except whichever faction is currently zerging the map down.

Aixy · February 2021

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People on NA are reporting that Blackreach is a lot better. Have you tried there?

Actualy is true, but sadly that campaign is a bit "dead" always at 1-2 bars (hard to find people).....ty for answer

Aixy · February 2021

Starlight_Knight wrote: »

My impressions are that the game play and pvp experience is 100% better without all the proc sets. its so nice! i hope the proc sets will be gone for ever.

Performance - better! unless theres balls groups on then its a joke. when ever there is a ball group about the game will not work, then the ball groups lag cc you and you just melt.
There were 3 organised ball groups on the other night on no cp EU, one ball group for each alliance and the game play was appaling just like before the test.

Conclusion, PVP is so much better without proc sets and being able to heal outside of group - Lag is unchanged.

hmmmmmmmmmmm yes BUT now you can use only 18 sets..... so remove 300 plus sets from the game next ??? (This game right now is 98% proc carry)

Stridig · February 2021

Aixy wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People on NA are reporting that Blackreach is a lot better. Have you tried there?

Actualy is true, but sadly that campaign is a bit "dead" always at 1-2 bars (hard to find people).....ty for answer

Actually neither of these comments are true. During the day or off hours I could agree with these comments but during prime time BR is routinely locked on all factions. When that happens, performance is crap.

relentless_turnip · February 2021

Terrible performance, amazing gameplay.

Aixy · February 2021

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Terrible performance, amazing gameplay.

Agree, some proc sets are super toxic (gameplay).-

Oakenaxe · February 2021

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Terrible performance, amazing gameplay.

I have to agree, some proc sets were really cancerous, but I think they should be re-worked and not removed. Afterall, it's part of the game.

gameswithaspoon · February 2021

Having gone through three nights of large keep battles on Ravenswatch, unquestionably the lag is a fraction of what it was before the test. There is some lag, but it is about what you got 4-5 years ago. And the meta is more healthy; people can’t YOLO into an enemy raid and get saved by their gear.

Kwoung · February 2021

Aixy wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People on NA are reporting that Blackreach is a lot better. Have you tried there?

Actualy is true, but sadly that campaign is a bit "dead" always at 1-2 bars (hard to find people).....ty for answer

Blackreach has been pop-locked on all 3 factions prime time during this test every time I looked, and I had a queue of 18 last night, it is far from empty.

Jaimeh · February 2021

Aixy wrote: »

Starlight_Knight wrote: »

My impressions are that the game play and pvp experience is 100% better without all the proc sets. its so nice! i hope the proc sets will be gone for ever.

Performance - better! unless theres balls groups on then its a joke. when ever there is a ball group about the game will not work, then the ball groups lag cc you and you just melt.
There were 3 organised ball groups on the other night on no cp EU, one ball group for each alliance and the game play was appaling just like before the test.

Conclusion, PVP is so much better without proc sets and being able to heal outside of group - Lag is unchanged.

hmmmmmmmmmmm yes BUT now you can use only 18 sets..... so remove 300 plus sets from the game next ??? (This game right now is 98% proc carry)

The next step is to remove cyrodiil, instant performance solution

J18696 · February 2021

Black reach is a enigma it can be 3 bars everyone and you can still struggle to find people

Sahidom · February 2021

Played tonight on Blackreach facing off against multiple ball groups on NA server. Our group size was only 8-10 guild mates; but faced 30+ and we didn't run into performance lag except some reported a desync where they couldn't break free. It took them multiple times doing so but none of their skills misfires over performance lag. The server was at population lock on all three factions.

Everyone who came out in our group had a lot of fun playing without proc sets. Still don't like they reverted the cross healing because it interferes with group healing when other groups are nearby. I'd rather have selfish healing in group play then I know my team mates will receive the heal support.

red_emu · February 2021

My conclusion is simple:

-proc sets don't cause lag,
-people like playing non-proc meta,
-ball groups cause lag.

Solution:
-make procs scale off stats to reduce their meta impact,
-make skills non-stackable (12 people with 4-5 instances of rapid regen are unkillable and casting 36 AOEs every 3 seconds on an 8 x 20 meter area surely makes the server unable to calculate it, so you just stand there and wait for the packets to go back and forth until the game decides you already died 10 seconds ago)

And a weird one: give players collision like NPCs - it would be funny to see a ball group getting stuck in a choke point 😂

IxSTALKERxI · February 2021

red_emu wrote: »

And a weird one: give players collision like NPCs - it would be funny to see a ball group getting stuck in a choke point 😂

Collision is actually a huge drain on server performance.

fred4 · February 2021

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People on NA are reporting that Blackreach is a lot better. Have you tried there?

Blackreach is usually better. That's not a surprise.

Grimlok_S · February 2021

fred4 wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People on NA are reporting that Blackreach is a lot better. Have you tried there?

Blackreach is usually better. That's not a surprise.

I haven't been bold enough to endure the Grayhost queue - Blackreach has been performing terribly in small out of the way fights during primetime, can't cast a damn thing near a proper keep fight.

xaraan · February 2021

Aixy wrote: »

My conclusions about this test after playing ALOT of hours daily:

Same lag as before the test.-

Same crashes as before the test.-

Prime time unplayable.-

Same FPS degradation over time (After playing few hours you have this bug and your fps drops to 10, the fix for this is change zone or log out but if u leading a raid you lost the crown and requeue).-

Hammer = Worst lag ever.-

Three weeks of "testing" is alot of time (sorry but the test already failed), hope u can revert this.-

(Playing PC - NA- Gray Host)

Agreed.

Haven't seen any improved performance.

Also, pretty sure my queue was bugged last night: sat in queue for over an hour at place 3. But you can't leave queue and requeue anymore, so I just finally changed to a different character.

Can't really even play on Greyhost, we have had to retreat to Blackreach which is usually controlled by one faction and overly zergy by them, so the fighting is often pretty lame there. (Also, maybe due to the cross healing coming back - the zerging in either campaign has gotten worse, which is not good).

ZoS just needs to get PvP working in a stable fashion in the main campaign or chalk up cyrodiil as a failure.