1 hour Grace Period for finalizing character creation

SilverBride · February 2021

I take a lot of time to get my characters "just right" but sometimes what you see in the creation screen isn't exactly what your character looks like in the world. The hair may be too bright, or the skin may be too light or dark, or maybe the eyebrows are skewed too far and it makes your look angry.

It would be nice to have an hour to test the character's look and have the ability to make small tweaks before setting it in stone.

Nairinhe · February 2021

Aside from lighting, in creator you can't see how you character looks in styles that you want them to wear, or with crown store cosmetics, or how they look in motion.
It was done well, say, in Oblivion, where you could tweak your appearance again before leaving the sewers.
It would be nice to get an option to tweak appearance at the end of tutorial, for example.

tenryuta · February 2021

1 free redo per character creation would be better, need to be in your best duds before figuring out 90% muscle 10% skinny might be better than 100 muscle<_<... or your legs looking like a dwarf's at max height:/

Athan1 · February 2021

How are they going to sell Appearance change tokens?

Araneae6537 · February 2021

Athan1 wrote: »

How are they going to sell Appearance change tokens?

Who uses an appearance change token for a character they just created? No, take screen shots of sliders, delete, and try again. I only use appearance change tokens on characters I’ve invested more in — and here too I wish that it unlocked an option to tweak for an hour! I don’t mind paying to change appearance, but I’m not going to use multiple tokens for one change. Thankfully, support has been great and helpful with this, but in my opinion, it would be better for everyone if it were a built-in feature.

AcadianPaladin · February 2021

Great ideas! I too would like to see something that let's you really evaluate how the character looks in the world before finalizing things.

Kurat · February 2021

I create characters on pts, then screenshot the sliders and redo on live.

spartaxoxo · February 2021

Kurat wrote: »

I create characters on pts, then screenshot the sliders and redo on live.

Not an option for console players.

I agree a lot with this post. Another game I played gave you 2 days to finalize your look, and then you had to pay real money to change it. The appearance changes remained popular items to buy anyway, because people only used those on established characters anyway. Brand new characters you forgot to change would just be deleted and redone. There's really not much incentive to pay real money to change the appearance of brand new characters, so I don't see how it would hurt ZOS to change things. It can't possibly be making them much money.

Nestor · February 2021

I have ways wondered why we are not given the chance to tweak our characters after the tutorial in this game. Because we can in every other TES game that is worth playing.

Seraphayel · February 2021

God, character creation on console is so bad.

You don’t have any indicators which options you picked because there are no names, numbers or anything else for the sliders.

Then you just have to screenshot and base everything off on the letters of the thing you’re working on like it was the slider right under the y of Hairstyle etc.

Additionally you cannot save any designs, meaning you always have to start from scratch... it’s infuriating how this wasn’t changed in the last 5 years for console players. And on top of that, if you’re waiting for too long to create your character (I think it’s 5 minutes of doing nothing) you just get logged out and must do everything from scratch again.

Character creation is so messy and overall bad on console, I can’t even.

Kadraeus · February 2021

Nairinhe wrote: »

Aside from lighting, in creator you can't see how you character looks in styles that you want them to wear, or with crown store cosmetics, or how they look in motion.
It was done well, say, in Oblivion, where you could tweak your appearance again before leaving the sewers.
It would be nice to get an option to tweak appearance at the end of tutorial, for example.

This. I spent 1000 crowns to change my character's appearance recently to make her more muscular, and I used the Thieves Guild armor as a reference. That armor makes your character look so much thicker than usual, so I had to adjust so she'd look good with or without that armor. Plus, all the original armor makes her look really slim, but when she wears certain newer armors that have the arms exposed she either looks like she can choke a guy out with one arm (I like) or is somewhere in the middle between swole and slim (even though both chest pieces have the arms exposed)

NotaDaedraWorshipper · February 2021

Seraphayel wrote: »

God, character creation on console is so bad.

You don’t have any indicators which options you picked because there are no names, numbers or anything else for the sliders.

Then you just have to screenshot and base everything off on the letters of the thing you’re working on like it was the slider right under the y of Hairstyle etc.

Additionally you cannot save any designs, meaning you always have to start from scratch... it’s infuriating how this wasn’t changed in the last 5 years for console players. And on top of that, if you’re waiting for too long to create your character (I think it’s 5 minutes of doing nothing) you just get logged out and must do everything from scratch again.

Character creation is so messy and overall bad on console, I can’t even.

It's the same on PC. You either use the text, colourboxes or count the slider clicks.

markulrich1966 · February 2021

btw is it a console issue only, that the voice preview is not workking?
Every voice sounds similar in the character creation, but different ingame.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · February 2021

markulrich1966 wrote: »

btw is it a console issue only, that the voice preview is not workking?
Every voice sounds similar in the character creation, but different ingame.

I wouldn't say different, but the voice preview (prelisten?) is pretty bad. Like, it just gives you a few random noises you can't tell what is what. You don't get to hear all attack grunts, or mount sprint etc. It's very hard to tell what they are. A few are also in worse quality than others.

BisDasBlutGefriert · February 2021

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Hotdog_23 · February 2021

ESO needs a in game barber shop function period. No other way around it except a big failure on ZOS part.

Stay safe and have fun

WiseSky · February 2021

Create it on the EU server if you play on NA, then when you get it rights create it after taking a screen shot.
PTS works too.

Matchimus · February 2021

I fully support this proposal. I find the midrift region is not the same at creation screen compared to login screen or in play where they seem to have put on a corset. Bought a few appearance token specifically because of this reason. I do not enjoy spending crowns on this.

Magdalina · February 2021

Agreed. I don't mind crown-paid appearance change per se, but they could at least give us the option to re-make appearance at the end of the tutorial like in other TES games. Last time I made a new char I deleted like...5 new toons before finally making one which looked the way I wanted (altho all the 4 failed tries I was sure she looked the way I wanted in char creation screen too). The lighting, the angle, the various accessories/styles/costumes unavailable during characters creation...they all really make a difference. And it's really not getting ZOS any cash there - people will likely just delete a new char and re-do it from scratch rather than pay for appearance change for a level 3 toon.

stewhead2ub17_ESO · February 2021

I think @Nairinhe has a great idea. Finalize your char before exiting the tutorial. How about passing this along please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

Starlight_Whisper · February 2021

I wish I could just add crown stuff and other comestics got along the way at character screen

coop500 · February 2021

Maybe give people the choice, in the level up thing, to either get an outfit change token or a appearance change token?
Or have them choose between crown crate and AC token

joseayalac · February 2021

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

ESO needs a in game barber shop function period. No other way around it except a big failure on ZOS part.

Stay safe and have fun

There's this function already but it costs 1000 crowns to use each time and I doubt ZOS will give up on that.

LalMirchi · February 2021

Both the character creation scene and the outfit station have inadequate lighting.

One suggestion would be adjustable lighting. Maybe just stick some of those nice pylons in and allow the player to switch them on/off?

Nairinhe · February 2021

LalMirchi wrote: »

Both the character creation scene and the outfit station have inadequate lighting.

One suggestion would be adjustable lighting. Maybe just stick some of those nice pylons in and allow the player to switch them on/off?

Which of outfit stations? Vivec one, for example is horribly dark, Alinor's quite adequate, Windhelm's one has divine lighting during the day (kill the bard, pls).
If you have one at home, you control the light here (Beacon of Tower Zero is nice, btw)

LalMirchi · February 2021

Nairinhe wrote: »

LalMirchi wrote: »

Both the character creation scene and the outfit station have inadequate lighting.

One suggestion would be adjustable lighting. Maybe just stick some of those nice pylons in and allow the player to switch them on/off?

Which of outfit stations? Vivec one, for example is horribly dark, Alinor's quite adequate, Windhelm's one has divine lighting during the day (kill the bard, pls).
If you have one at home, you control the light here (Beacon of Tower Zero is nice, btw)

I usually use the outfit station in Alinor and I would like more lighting alternatives.

Nairinhe · February 2021

LalMirchi wrote: »

Nairinhe wrote: »

LalMirchi wrote: »

Both the character creation scene and the outfit station have inadequate lighting.

One suggestion would be adjustable lighting. Maybe just stick some of those nice pylons in and allow the player to switch them on/off?

Which of outfit stations? Vivec one, for example is horribly dark, Alinor's quite adequate, Windhelm's one has divine lighting during the day (kill the bard, pls).
If you have one at home, you control the light here (Beacon of Tower Zero is nice, btw)

I usually use the outfit station in Alinor and I would like more lighting alternatives.

If you do crafting and antiquities (or shopping), getting a dye or an outfit station in your own home is the best way. Lighting to you taste, no bards, no pets bugging in, no random buffs or mementos.
If not, Alinor is the best, I think. Wouldn't hope for ZOS to add adjustable lighting, they are rather stingy with QOL.
But, tbh, I'm not running around in good lighting that often. It's gloomy dungeons and caves, dark-ish castles and taverns, nighttime overland and weird lightning of Oblivion realms. So, maybe, the lighting we get does make sense, after all.

Vlad9425 · February 2021

Would be a nice feature but honestly not really worth wasting dev time on this so late in the game’s lifecycle.

Tandor · February 2021

I'm all in favour of a free appearance change option at the end of the tutorial, alternatively I wouldn't mind a 1 hour grace period in which you could recreate the character as long as you were muted in that hour unless you confirmed the character - otherwise gold sellers would spend the hour selling their wares, which is why the restriction on deletion/creation was introduced in the first place.

LalMirchi · February 2021

Nairinhe wrote: »

LalMirchi wrote: »

Nairinhe wrote: »

LalMirchi wrote: »

Both the character creation scene and the outfit station have inadequate lighting.

One suggestion would be adjustable lighting. Maybe just stick some of those nice pylons in and allow the player to switch them on/off?

Which of outfit stations? Vivec one, for example is horribly dark, Alinor's quite adequate, Windhelm's one has divine lighting during the day (kill the bard, pls).
If you have one at home, you control the light here (Beacon of Tower Zero is nice, btw)

I usually use the outfit station in Alinor and I would like more lighting alternatives.

If you do crafting and antiquities (or shopping), getting a dye or an outfit station in your own home is the best way. Lighting to you taste, no bards, no pets bugging in, no random buffs or mementos.
If not, Alinor is the best, I think. Wouldn't hope for ZOS to add adjustable lighting, they are rather stingy with QOL.
But, tbh, I'm not running around in good lighting that often. It's gloomy dungeons and caves, dark-ish castles and taverns, nighttime overland and weird lightning of Oblivion realms. So, maybe, the lighting we get does make sense, after all.

Awesome, thank you. I will try that for outfitting.

SilverBride · February 2021

Nairinhe wrote: »

If you do crafting and antiquities (or shopping), getting a dye or an outfit station in your own home is the best way.

Only if you have good lighting in your house. Besides, I don't want to ruin my home decor with an outfit station anyway.

I just want to be able to run around the world and experience different areas to get a real idea of how my character really looks before locking my appearance.