Dusk_Coven wrote: »PvP has long since devolved into what this video shows: https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/inrvdq/i_get_the_resource_node_bot_farmingbut_crabs/
It's like a bot stack going after mudcrabs.
All they are doing is exploiting mechanics to farm currency. Not even bothering to play the ESO IP, and at the same time obstructing the gameplay of people who are actually here for the ESO IP.
GreenhaloX wrote: »
TwiceBornStar wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »So.. what if there was an option of turning off PvP when you're in IC or Cyrodiil; particularly, in Cyrodiil when you just want to go in there for shyshards and not for fighting? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure purist PvPers will have a field day with this, but I don't care. How about such option, ZOS, for PvP wimps like me? Damn, PvP and PvPers are just so brutal!
I feel your pain, man. I'm not too bad at PvP, but to be honest I haven't tried to be serious about PvP in Tamriel just yet. I've jumped into a few Battlegrounds only just a few days ago with the latest Midyear Mayhem, and that was actually just my PvE character. And a Hybrid. I managed to kill quite a few players and to my surprise, even won a few 2 vs. 1 fights, and still managed to kill a few players in a few 5,4,3 vs. 1 situations, before getting my butt kicked myself. I also came across a few players who had little to no trouble with my build, so I'm guessing those were the hardcore PvP guys and girls. I'm sure in the next year PvP will see a bit more of me, because it is fun and I don't think ESO's PvP community is as toxic as some other PvP communities in other games are, because that's never enjoyable. But I do feel your pain. I've tried to hunt for a couple of Skyshards in Cyrodiil and I've tried fishing and questing there a few times as well, but there's always someone who sneaks up on you or drops an ultimate on you when you're obviously just standing there, fishing, or trying to finish the conversation with an NPC. If that was me, I wouldn't engage those players, but I suppose if you're still a teenager, this is too much fun to pass up on! I understand.
Anyway, back to your topic. I think a solution could be:
Race: Nord.
Monster set: Mighty Chudan.
Craftable: Aetherial Ascension.
Craftable: Fortified Brass.
Everything Reinforced and covered in Health enchantments.
Jewelry: Infused. With Shock, Magic and Poison resistances.
Class: Warden.
Skill line: Winter's Embrace. Full bar.
64 attribute points into health.
Mundus Stone: The Lord.
Food: Anything that gives you 6K health.
Oh, and slot an invisible potion?
This should give you some survivability. I think Arctic Wind would make you unkillable.
You're welcome!
GreenhaloX wrote: »So.. what if there was an option of turning off PvP when you're in IC or Cyrodiil; particularly, in Cyrodiil when you just want to go in there for shyshards and not for fighting? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure purist PvPers will have a field day with this, but I don't care. How about such option, ZOS, for PvP wimps like me? Damn, PvP and PvPers are just so brutal!
You're running back and forth over our dodgeball court looking for loose change in the dirt and unhappy that dodgeball happens.
Agenericname wrote: »Dusk_Coven wrote: »PvP has long since devolved into what this video shows: https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/inrvdq/i_get_the_resource_node_bot_farmingbut_crabs/
It's like a bot stack going after mudcrabs.
All they are doing is exploiting mechanics to farm currency. Not even bothering to play the ESO IP, and at the same time obstructing the gameplay of people who are actually here for the ESO IP.
Theyre not obstructing, theyre participating. Its a PvP zone. Regardless of your reason for being in a zone that is PvP enabled, when you are there, you are the content.
Its also false to assume that PvPers do not quest or play for the ESO IP. I have finished the IC questline on 3 characters, one of which was during the IC event. Also have over 400 skill points, thats a lot of questing.
Its a warzone. That is the story, and yes, it is brutal. I'd hazard a guess that its probably one of the immersive zones in the game.
GreenhaloX wrote: »
TequilaFire wrote: »On the other side of the coin, I as a PvP player have to kill a PvE boss to get the Malacath lead in IC as opposed to doing something PvP related.
I think it evens out.
GreenhaloX wrote: »I got nothing against PvPers, really. It's cool that those who enjoy thrashing and killing other players. I'm just not one of them; never had and never been in this game. Hey, it is however you enjoy this game and whatever gets you through your day or evening. The only time really I ever go into Cyrodiil is to grab vigor and caltrops for a new toon. Yeah, yeah, MMO, sure; but I mostly enjoy frolicking around and soloing things in PvE land Tamriel and helping others calling for help at world bosses, dragons, geysers or harrowstorms.
Now, I'm just trying to get the Malacath band in IC. So, I figured to head in there late at night thinking there would be very few other players and to avoid (or have minimal contact) other players. It's also probably not so smart to head in there sololy, and with just PvE gear (ha ha.) Well, I'm just not much of a group content type player and never really had been in this game. I ran into a few other solo players, but didn't engage. Like I said, I'm not really a PvPer, and just not really there to fight; just hoping to get at a boss that can drop the band lead. A couple lower level players, separately tried to engage me, but I didn't fight back as they weren't doing much damage on me. Then, a mob of players were fighting each others around the flesh abomination boss and also engaging the boss. I had tried my earnest to sting like a bee and dance around like a butterfly at the boss and avoid the other players.
Well, I didn't get the band and a bit later ran into a couple soloists, which I, again, avoided fighting back. As I continued on looking for another boss, I unfortunately ran into a group of other alliance players and no avoiding these folks. They smashed the hell out of me. They were like wild rabid dogs. Ha ha. I then rez to the safe spot, and just continued watching this group going around terrorizing the place. That was it; it was time to call it a night..
So.. what if there was an option of turning off PvP when you're in IC or Cyrodiil; particularly, in Cyrodiil when you just want to go in there for shyshards and not for fighting? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure purist PvPers will have a field day with this, but I don't care. How about such option, ZOS, for PvP wimps like me? Damn, PvP and PvPers are just so brutal!
TequilaFire wrote: »On the other side of the coin, I as a PvP player have to kill a PvE boss to get the Malacath lead in IC as opposed to doing something PvP related.
I think it evens out.
Hardly, your risk is much lower. I dont agree with OP but this argument is weak.
This, PvP learning curve is very steep as you play against other players, most who has far more experience than you.TheFibrewire wrote: »IC is a group area, get a group stop soloing it's an MMO play in groups.
No. Dont take this from us. You want something from a pvp zone? Deal with it.
If I want something from pve content, I have to man up and learn to do it.
I DEMAND my own special instance of every single vet trial, in which, I cannot die.
See how silly that logic is?
GreenhaloX wrote: »If you are so against PVP why do u want malacaths
Band?
This is a pretty good point, pve builds are heavily crit focused. Malacath isn't gonna do u much good unless you are in fact trying to pvp.
On the broader topic.... A lot of pvers ask for this and pvpers always come back "if we gotta do your pve stuff then you gotta do our pvp stuff."
I think the core of the objection is that people running around IC in "safe mode" would detract from the ambiance of the place - part of the charm is that it's an open world free for all where mystery and danger lurk around every corner. If you can just turn pvp off then it's.... just another pve zone with more advanced dueling options.
There are other more concrete objections - this would make it dramatically easier to farm the zone, so tel var and AP would not really be pvp rewards anymore, which would basically remove all the in game incentive to pvp.
Nahh.. I'm not a crit build for PvE. I prefer more damage build. Yes, to each their own and playstyle, and I'm not going to get into a build debate. In PvE, my playstyle is soloist and I like all damage build for all my stam and mag toons.