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Important! CP rate was adjusted
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tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Changing the "soft cap" to 3600 would result in an 80% reduction in XP needed to get to the "max"
With the changes to some stars you only need like 1100 CP to be fully specced out for your role.
1600 CP will allow you to dual spec
more will let you more flexibility to choose different passives and change on the fly
The shift to 1020 in the formula is a 30% reduction in XP needed from live
If it's supposed to be 1200, it's a 45% reduction in XP needed from live
Just changing that number is a HUGE nerf in the XP needed to level, makes it even easier for players to get to higher CP so they have most of their perks, and lets players who don't have as much CP catch up even quicker.
It also doesn't nerf it to the point that in 3 months everybody is at max CP and we hear all the whining again about no more progression available to players.The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger69,420 achievement points2 -
itscompton✭✭✭✭✭
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Just got done playing with CP on the PTS and it's 520 CP in the Blue tree to max out the 4 actives plus all the possible passive bonuses that could help a PvP build.
Add another 110 CP to max out the passives for PvE damage reduction and buff your off damage type (stam v mag) as well if you want to play a hybrid in IC. After 1890 CP you're just stuck unlocking active abilities you don't have the room to slot. When the majority of people are getting close to that point they could just easily give us another active slot once a year or two to make the CP grind feel worthy still.
But the bottom line for now is the real Min/Max target for most PvP is 1560 CP total.Edited by itscompton on February 9, 2021 1:43AM0 -
zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭please anyone with CP above 1200, can you post picture of how many exp per CP you have?
Generally it seems like they changed the cap from 810 to 1020, here is a chart of someone else from the PTS section https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uS2H-elnpVngKOMBqwl3LHytDHSOBwmDfDoQHHOtoh4/edit?usp=sharing
As you see the screenshots from me and ermurazor are inline with the 1020 cap, which means we need 4,000,000,000 XP to get to max level. Enlightened (amount of xp they expect players to get per day) is 400,000. It means they expect us to spend 10,000 days leveling to max level. Fun. Fun. Fun.0 -
Yuffie91✭✭✭✭✭I can not even imagine ever getting 1200 cp..currently sitting at 550 and finding it slow to gain cp
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Now the weird thing is the 1.5x penalty if above cap. Now back then they cap was 600-700 and they raised it 4 times a year it made kind of sense as you did not want people above to race ahead too fast.
It makes no sense with no cap, just an random number as in 1020.
If they want to make high cp more expensive simply adjust the increase rate.
Kind of suspect they would kept the cap at 810 unless it was called out on it.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Did they really mean to make the penalty cap 1200, but accidentally made it 1020?
For my own peace of mind, I must assume that they meant that number to be 1020. For some reason.
It that is not the case, the level of quality assurance has plummeted below what I thought was possible even for a gaming company, where code quality assurance can be a bit lax -- and for good reasons, because game bugs won't kill or hurt anyone, or cause any significant monetary loss for users. However, a single person's typos should simply never make it to running code. They are easily spotted and corrected if you have a functioning team performing even the most superficial kind of code audits. If you mean 1200 but type 1020, and the wrong number makes it to running code, you are not even reading what you type yourself.
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Gythral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Does it matter if it's 1020 or 1200
either way I'm shafted & nerfed
“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭please anyone with CP above 1200, can you post picture of how many exp per CP you have?
Generally it seems like they changed the cap from 810 to 1020, here is a chart of someone else from the PTS section https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uS2H-elnpVngKOMBqwl3LHytDHSOBwmDfDoQHHOtoh4/edit?usp=sharing
As you see the screenshots from me and ermurazor are inline with the 1020 cap, which means we need 4,000,000,000 XP to get to max level. Enlightened (amount of xp they expect players to get per day) is 400,000. It means they expect us to spend 10,000 days leveling to max level. Fun. Fun. Fun.
You're being disingenuous. You don't only gain 400k XP in a day. You can literally use up your entire enlightenment doing a single random normal.
I agree it's a lot of XP, and it'll take a while to get to cap. But arguments and statements like this don't help the case at all.
If we want any changes, we have to be clear, concise, direct, realistic, and truthful in our statements, because "appealing to the extremes" is not a good argument strategy.The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger69,420 achievement points0 -
FinrodMacBeorn✭✭✭please anyone with CP above 1200, can you post picture of how many exp per CP you have?
From 1439 to 1440 you'll need
927,304 xp on pts
1,153,222 xp on life
That's just a multiplier of 0.8. So much for people telling us that we shouldn't worry about grinding.
By the way, getting only 4 actives and all useful passives for a mag DD in harder vet content, you need roughly 1800 cp. So that's where horizontal progression really starts according to pts 6.3.2.
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