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Can we hardcore nerf 2-hand executioner already?
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oXI_Viper_IXo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Must be nice. Im getting hit for 5-8k with 5 pc gold impen gear.
Are you blocking? Shields up? What is your physical resistance? Are you wearing light armor?1 -
Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Execute starts at 50%. It hits plenty hard then. It's basically dizzy spam till 50 then exe spam for two button gameplay. The scaling is so ridiculous.Edited by Ryuvain on February 2, 2021 6:52AMThat one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
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JayKwellen✭✭✭✭✭I mean obviously?
The only other stam execute is whirling blades, and dual wield is only viable on a couple classes.
Templar, sorc, necro, DK, and warden don't have a stamina class execute at all. Nightblades have one, and it's trash in PvP.
If you want stam characters to stop using 2H and execute then give every class an execute and every class execute a stamina morph. Then buff dual wield, 1H/S, and bow so they can be used by classes other than Warden and sorc. Or give every class a stamina burst heal and major brutality so using 2H in PvP isn't required anymore.
Raise all the boats instead of trying to sink the only viable one left.12 -
Freakin_Hytte✭✭✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »The next patch may introduce penalties to Light armour and Heavy armor. Light will be damaged harder by "martial" damage - weapon damage. No any penalties to Medium armor.
Expect mag users be slaughtered even harder by executioner.
Most light armor has shields that medium armor doesnt have.
Executioner is sometimes the only way to get a healbot heavy armor tanky down.
So no it doesnt need a nerf
I mean, heavy armor is overperforming too. Both could be brought down imo.
Also light armor can spam shields, but it's cut just like healing. If they're spamming shields they're not attacking either. Just a slower death really.
You do know that it's thanks to people like you we only have 1 viable weapon right? People like you who wants to nerfs, that's the reason they nerfed dw and s&b killing aaaaa lot of different builds and at the same time buffing 2H. They did it because people likr you asked for nerf, at that time it was toward s&b and dw.
So thank you so much for helping making this game more trash by ruining the good parts instead lf asking for buffs for the underperforming parts.10 -
Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭JayKwellen wrote: »I mean obviously?
The only other stam execute is whirling blades, and dual wield is only viable on a couple classes.
Templar, sorc, necro, DK, and warden don't have a stamina class execute at all. Nightblades have one, and it's trash in PvP.
If you want stam characters to stop using 2H and execute then give every class an execute and every class execute a stamina morph. Then buff dual wield, 1H/S, and bow so they can be used by classes other than Warden and sorc. Or give every class a stamina burst heal and major brutality so using 2H in PvP isn't required anymore.
Raise all the boats instead of trying to sink the only viable one left.
I admit I was very ticked off when I started the post. Two handed being so overused is still annoying.
I'd be fine with your suggestions. As a sorc, yeah I don't have an execute. I just want to use dual wield and at least stand a chance, that too much?
I just don't have much faith of all those other options being buffed by the devs. Easiest way would be just a nerf. Your way would be better overall though.That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
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Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭Freakin_Hytte wrote: »LightYagami wrote: »The next patch may introduce penalties to Light armour and Heavy armor. Light will be damaged harder by "martial" damage - weapon damage. No any penalties to Medium armor.
Expect mag users be slaughtered even harder by executioner.
Most light armor has shields that medium armor doesnt have.
Executioner is sometimes the only way to get a healbot heavy armor tanky down.
So no it doesnt need a nerf
I mean, heavy armor is overperforming too. Both could be brought down imo.
Also light armor can spam shields, but it's cut just like healing. If they're spamming shields they're not attacking either. Just a slower death really.
You do know that it's thanks to people like you we only have 1 viable weapon right? People like you who wants to nerfs, that's the reason they nerfed dw and s&b killing aaaaa lot of different builds and at the same time buffing 2H. They did it because people likr you asked for nerf, at that time it was toward s&b and dw.
So thank you so much for helping making this game more trash by ruining the good parts instead lf asking for buffs for the underperforming parts.
Thanks. Love ya too.
But seriously, I wasn't playing when dual wield was good so can't comment. But this is indeed an issue if 99% of stam players use 2-hand. I'm all for buffs but dont have faith that they will come. Easiest way is just to hammer down the nail.That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
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Pauwer✭✭✭✭✭I don't think or have experienced or been able to hit someone just below 50% hard on the skill, it only happens with really low health, when it does that over 10k damage. Maybe others manage, but not me atleast, or have it done to me
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LonePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I got hit with a 23K Executioner the other day so of course this skill needs nerfed. A regular skill that is not an ultimate should never do that much damage or even half that much damage. How about giving Destro Staff a single target skill that is not an ultimate that can do five figures worth of damage?1 -
SOLDIER_1stClass✭✭✭✭Heavy armor needs a damage debuff per piece. Survivability needs to come at a drastic cost to damage output
Either 2h needs a nerf to be brought down to the other weapon types.
Or the other weapon types need a serious buff.
Either way Executioner definitely needs to be dialed back
Aoe needs a nerf. Aoe should compliment single target not compete with it.
Malacath needs to not increase proc damage
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Freakin_Hytte✭✭✭✭✭Freakin_Hytte wrote: »LightYagami wrote: »The next patch may introduce penalties to Light armour and Heavy armor. Light will be damaged harder by "martial" damage - weapon damage. No any penalties to Medium armor.
Expect mag users be slaughtered even harder by executioner.
Most light armor has shields that medium armor doesnt have.
Executioner is sometimes the only way to get a healbot heavy armor tanky down.
So no it doesnt need a nerf
I mean, heavy armor is overperforming too. Both could be brought down imo.
Also light armor can spam shields, but it's cut just like healing. If they're spamming shields they're not attacking either. Just a slower death really.
You do know that it's thanks to people like you we only have 1 viable weapon right? People like you who wants to nerfs, that's the reason they nerfed dw and s&b killing aaaaa lot of different builds and at the same time buffing 2H. They did it because people likr you asked for nerf, at that time it was toward s&b and dw.
So thank you so much for helping making this game more trash by ruining the good parts instead lf asking for buffs for the underperforming parts.
Thanks. Love ya too.
But seriously, I wasn't playing when dual wield was good so can't comment. But this is indeed an issue if 99% of stam players use 2-hand. I'm all for buffs but dont have faith that they will come. Easiest way is just to hammer down the nail.
The problem I think why buffs are rarer than nerfs is because the majority of community always asks for nerfs instead of buffing the other side. I believe we would see more buffs if the community started asking for buffs instead of nerfs.
Sorry didn't mean to sound so bitchy, I'm not a good morning person and all the nerf threads can drive me crazy,
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BohnT2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Execute starts at 50%. It hits plenty hard then. It's basically dizzy spam till 50 then exe spam for two button gameplay. The scaling is so ridiculous.
You admitted yourself that you have never played 2h or executioner and still you got the audacity to post this amount of false information on the forums. At 50% executioner still does a lot less damage than dizzying swing.
You're not interested in balance, you're interested in your own good.12 -
Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Execute starts at 50%. It hits plenty hard then. It's basically dizzy spam till 50 then exe spam for two button gameplay. The scaling is so ridiculous.
You admitted yourself that you have never played 2h or executioner and still you got the audacity to post this amount of false information on the forums. At 50% executioner still does a lot less damage than dizzying swing.
You're not interested in balance, you're interested in your own good.
You really think I've never tried 2-hand? I find it boring and rather not play hyper meta is all. I said I prefer dual wield because I think it fits me more, not because it's even. I even admitted that I'm holding myself back by not playing the top meta right now, see my previous post?
Also, how am I only interested in myself when I literally stated it's top meta and seen everywhere in PvP? Have you done pvp yourself at all? Dont pretend 2-hand isn't everywhere with people constantly acknowledging how strong executioner, dizzy swing, and rally are.
I'm really trying to hold back, but come on now.That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
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BohnT2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Execute starts at 50%. It hits plenty hard then. It's basically dizzy spam till 50 then exe spam for two button gameplay. The scaling is so ridiculous.
You admitted yourself that you have never played 2h or executioner and still you got the audacity to post this amount of false information on the forums. At 50% executioner still does a lot less damage than dizzying swing.
You're not interested in balance, you're interested in your own good.
You really think I've never tried 2-hand? I find it boring and rather not play hyper meta is all. I said I prefer dual wield because I think it fits me more, not because it's even. I even admitted that I'm holding myself back by not playing the top meta right now, see my previous post?
Also, how am I only interested in myself when I literally stated it's top meta and seen everywhere in PvP? Have you done pvp yourself at all? Dont pretend 2-hand isn't everywhere with people constantly acknowledging how strong executioner, dizzy swing, and rally are.
I'm really trying to hold back, but come on now.
It tells that you may have played pvp but you don't understand it at all.
People use Dizzying and executioner because they're the only useable spammable and execute the majority of classes have access to.
If the number of viable weapons is one there might be a reason why people use it and it's not because it's overtuned.
And yes you are only interested in yourself when you want to shape the game around you playing a suboptimal weapon.
If you're on Pc EU you can always hit me up for a duel @name is same as in here without the 2.
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Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Execute starts at 50%. It hits plenty hard then. It's basically dizzy spam till 50 then exe spam for two button gameplay. The scaling is so ridiculous.
You admitted yourself that you have never played 2h or executioner and still you got the audacity to post this amount of false information on the forums. At 50% executioner still does a lot less damage than dizzying swing.
You're not interested in balance, you're interested in your own good.
You really think I've never tried 2-hand? I find it boring and rather not play hyper meta is all. I said I prefer dual wield because I think it fits me more, not because it's even. I even admitted that I'm holding myself back by not playing the top meta right now, see my previous post?
Also, how am I only interested in myself when I literally stated it's top meta and seen everywhere in PvP? Have you done pvp yourself at all? Dont pretend 2-hand isn't everywhere with people constantly acknowledging how strong executioner, dizzy swing, and rally are.
I'm really trying to hold back, but come on now.
It tells that you may have played pvp but you don't understand it at all.
People use Dizzying and executioner because they're the only useable spammable and execute the majority of classes have access to.
If the number of viable weapons is one there might be a reason why people use it and it's not because it's overtuned.
And yes you are only interested in yourself when you want to shape the game around you playing a suboptimal weapon.
If you're on Pc EU you can always hit me up for a duel @name is same as in here without the 2.
I'm selfish for wanting a buff to dual wield or a nerf to 2-hand for more variety? Ok then, whatever.
Also lol at the dueling part. No thanks, I'm NA anyway. I've frankly stopped caring and will filter if necessary.Edited by Ryuvain on February 2, 2021 9:44AMThat one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
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BohnT2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Execute starts at 50%. It hits plenty hard then. It's basically dizzy spam till 50 then exe spam for two button gameplay. The scaling is so ridiculous.
You admitted yourself that you have never played 2h or executioner and still you got the audacity to post this amount of false information on the forums. At 50% executioner still does a lot less damage than dizzying swing.
You're not interested in balance, you're interested in your own good.
You really think I've never tried 2-hand? I find it boring and rather not play hyper meta is all. I said I prefer dual wield because I think it fits me more, not because it's even. I even admitted that I'm holding myself back by not playing the top meta right now, see my previous post?
Also, how am I only interested in myself when I literally stated it's top meta and seen everywhere in PvP? Have you done pvp yourself at all? Dont pretend 2-hand isn't everywhere with people constantly acknowledging how strong executioner, dizzy swing, and rally are.
I'm really trying to hold back, but come on now.
It tells that you may have played pvp but you don't understand it at all.
People use Dizzying and executioner because they're the only useable spammable and execute the majority of classes have access to.
If the number of viable weapons is one there might be a reason why people use it and it's not because it's overtuned.
And yes you are only interested in yourself when you want to shape the game around you playing a suboptimal weapon.
If you're on Pc EU you can always hit me up for a duel @name is same as in here without the 2.
I'm selfish for wanting a buff to dual wield or a nerf to 2-hand for more variety? Ok then, whatever.
Also lol at the dueling part. No thanks, I'm NA anyway. I've frankly stopped caring and will filter if necessary.
Read your initial post and the title of your thread again.
You're trying to destroy the only weapon that's useable for stam but please go ahead make a fool of yourself when you'll be crying about the next thing in 3 months when people got pigeonholed into the next worse thing.
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Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Execute starts at 50%. It hits plenty hard then. It's basically dizzy spam till 50 then exe spam for two button gameplay. The scaling is so ridiculous.
You admitted yourself that you have never played 2h or executioner and still you got the audacity to post this amount of false information on the forums. At 50% executioner still does a lot less damage than dizzying swing.
You're not interested in balance, you're interested in your own good.
You really think I've never tried 2-hand? I find it boring and rather not play hyper meta is all. I said I prefer dual wield because I think it fits me more, not because it's even. I even admitted that I'm holding myself back by not playing the top meta right now, see my previous post?
Also, how am I only interested in myself when I literally stated it's top meta and seen everywhere in PvP? Have you done pvp yourself at all? Dont pretend 2-hand isn't everywhere with people constantly acknowledging how strong executioner, dizzy swing, and rally are.
I'm really trying to hold back, but come on now.
It tells that you may have played pvp but you don't understand it at all.
People use Dizzying and executioner because they're the only useable spammable and execute the majority of classes have access to.
If the number of viable weapons is one there might be a reason why people use it and it's not because it's overtuned.
And yes you are only interested in yourself when you want to shape the game around you playing a suboptimal weapon.
If you're on Pc EU you can always hit me up for a duel @name is same as in here without the 2.
I'm selfish for wanting a buff to dual wield or a nerf to 2-hand for more variety? Ok then, whatever.
Also lol at the dueling part. No thanks, I'm NA anyway. I've frankly stopped caring and will filter if necessary.
Read your initial post and the title of your thread again.
You're trying to destroy the only weapon that's useable for stam but please go ahead make a fool of yourself when you'll be crying about the next thing in 3 months when people got pigeonholed into the next worse thing.
10/10 dodge can also meet on pts
Hmm. My first post seems to say to nerf 2-hand because its OVERUSED. Maybe if it was nerfed or even if other weapons got a buff maybe it wouldn't be so ridiculously meta? I clearly wasn't opposed to buffing other weapons (as agreed with someone else here) as I'm mainly tired of seeing 2-hand everywhere.That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
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LalMirchi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭People calling for nerfs often have flaws in their own tactics. Nerfs destroy the game, so no.5 -
Pauwer✭✭✭✭✭And btw may i add that i also play dual wield main bar almost always, i only have buffs and defences on my vat 2h back bar. Because i either play in a group, so dw is better in that situation. Or when i play solo, there's always a group fighting me like 90% of times. So with blades you do better imho. Only if you are pure 1vs1 i'd go 2h. I play cyro big fights pvp mainly. Also with 2h is always "target is out of range" with the execute, if you can't stun them and get the skill to fire instantly, which can be hard in lag. With blades it's easier to hit peeps. Just my personal experience and preference 0
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techyeshic✭✭✭✭✭Well; it does more than whirling blades by about a 3rd if the target is near 0 health left, but its single target. 1 extra target and whirling blades comes out ahead.Edited by techyeshic on February 2, 2021 2:08PM0
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Malkiv✭✭✭✭✭I’d say you really need to learn when to block. You can’t roll it, and shielding through it is not great. Just press the right mouse button and cast a heal. ESO PvP 101PC-NA | PvP (Gray Host & BGs) | PvE (vTrials & vDGs)1 -
Fennwitty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It's one of the few reliable(ish) abilities available, so it gets used a ton.
I'd like to see more diversity but we can probably get that by raising up other options, not exclusively reducing the flavor of the month (year) skills.PC NA1 -
techyeshic✭✭✭✭✭It's one of the few reliable(ish) abilities available, so it gets used a ton.
I'd like to see more diversity but we can probably get that by raising up other options, not exclusively reducing the flavor of the month (year) skills.
The thing is, its not just execute viability on why you see it so much. If you're not a stamsorc or warden, you're stuck with Rally for a burst heal and probably need the major brutality also. Even if you are a stansorc or warden, you might still want dizzy as a spammable with off balance and stun, and that combos into executioner really well with the cast time covering the global. Even NB might prefer it over their class spam and execute. Only stamplar doesn't, but they are most dependent on that heal and buff of rally
Really, hitting 2her would severely cripple most stam builds in PVP and the ones it wouldn't, could be using dual wield already.Edited by techyeshic on February 2, 2021 4:16PM1 -
Zulera301✭✭✭✭✭Sorry that you weren't able to make your escape with <5%HP left. That's what executioner exists for.Shortly after the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a Nord woman was given a tour of the Tribunal Temple. When later asked about the experience, she seemed upset. Suffice to say, the Dunmer were not pleased to hear this, and thus they inquired further.
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭Like 90% of stam players are using this in PvP. It's seriously getting old. It's been the top pvp weapon for the longest.
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eso_lags✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Like 90% of stam players are using this in PvP. It's seriously getting old. It's been the top pvp weapon for the longest.
We have to get used to the fact that PVP in this game isn't about skill. It's about who is running the FOTM build copy pasted from youtube. Once you PvP regularly you realise pretty much everyone is running the same builds
You're not wrong about meta builds but you really think skill doesnt matter? Do you have any idea of the ridiculous number of meta builds i kill on a daily basis because they are just bad at pvp? Well of course you dont because you arent seeing it happen, but its a lot.
Of course broken meta builds make things much harder, especially for solo/small scale players. Like the skill has been greatly reduced in this game, meaning that bad players can do better by getting carried by broken builds and outnumbering you, but its rare that I lose to someone who i consider significantly worse than me, and believe that they are just being carried.. At least in a 1v1, theres always a way around it.
But could a few bad players on some severely broken builds kill me 3v1? Sure. It always depends on what build is there fighting and how broken it is. An extremely powerful proc build that is good enough to hold block and throw out an ability every now and again might tip the scales. Alone they would just run out of stam and die eventually, but with a couple players the carry shines way more.3 -
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✭✭It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
Execute starts at 50%. It hits plenty hard then. It's basically dizzy spam till 50 then exe spam for two button gameplay. The scaling is so ridiculous.
You admitted yourself that you have never played 2h or executioner and still you got the audacity to post this amount of false information on the forums. At 50% executioner still does a lot less damage than dizzying swing.
You're not interested in balance, you're interested in your own good.
You really think I've never tried 2-hand? I find it boring and rather not play hyper meta is all. I said I prefer dual wield because I think it fits me more, not because it's even. I even admitted that I'm holding myself back by not playing the top meta right now, see my previous post?
Also, how am I only interested in myself when I literally stated it's top meta and seen everywhere in PvP? Have you done pvp yourself at all? Dont pretend 2-hand isn't everywhere with people constantly acknowledging how strong executioner, dizzy swing, and rally are.
I'm really trying to hold back, but come on now.
It tells that you may have played pvp but you don't understand it at all.
People use Dizzying and executioner because they're the only useable spammable and execute the majority of classes have access to.
If the number of viable weapons is one there might be a reason why people use it and it's not because it's overtuned.
And yes you are only interested in yourself when you want to shape the game around you playing a suboptimal weapon.
If you're on Pc EU you can always hit me up for a duel @name is same as in here without the 2.
I'm selfish for wanting a buff to dual wield or a nerf to 2-hand for more variety? Ok then, whatever.
Also lol at the dueling part. No thanks, I'm NA anyway. I've frankly stopped caring and will filter if necessary.
Read your initial post and the title of your thread again.
You're trying to destroy the only weapon that's useable for stam but please go ahead make a fool of yourself when you'll be crying about the next thing in 3 months when people got pigeonholed into the next worse thing.
10/10 dodge can also meet on pts
Hmm. My first post seems to say to nerf 2-hand because its OVERUSED. Maybe if it was nerfed or even if other weapons got a buff maybe it wouldn't be so ridiculously meta? I clearly wasn't opposed to buffing other weapons (as agreed with someone else here) as I'm mainly tired of seeing 2-hand everywhere.
And yet this is the problem - nerfing because it's overused doesn't fix the problem. It's the same problem with people calling for nerfs with Mist Form. Instead of addressing the problem, it's a bandaid fix. Your original post would've gone much better if it was buffing other weapons that created and generated the opportunity for other weapons and playstyles to grow, but instead you're introducing something that's not only unnecessary, but harmful to stamina diversity and playstyles as a whole because it's 'overused'. This is why we can't have nice things.2 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Like 90% of stam players are using this in PvP. It's seriously getting old. It's been the top pvp weapon for the longest.
And replace it with what? Just another nerf thread that offer zero alternatives. Because we all know that the next nerf thread will be about that skill.
People die in PVP. A lot. Its kind of the backbone of PVP.5 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Freakin_Hytte wrote: »LightYagami wrote: »The next patch may introduce penalties to Light armour and Heavy armor. Light will be damaged harder by "martial" damage - weapon damage. No any penalties to Medium armor.
Expect mag users be slaughtered even harder by executioner.
Most light armor has shields that medium armor doesnt have.
Executioner is sometimes the only way to get a healbot heavy armor tanky down.
So no it doesnt need a nerf
I mean, heavy armor is overperforming too. Both could be brought down imo.
Also light armor can spam shields, but it's cut just like healing. If they're spamming shields they're not attacking either. Just a slower death really.
You do know that it's thanks to people like you we only have 1 viable weapon right? People like you who wants to nerfs, that's the reason they nerfed dw and s&b killing aaaaa lot of different builds and at the same time buffing 2H. They did it because people likr you asked for nerf, at that time it was toward s&b and dw.
So thank you so much for helping making this game more trash by ruining the good parts instead lf asking for buffs for the underperforming parts.
Thanks. Love ya too.
But seriously, I wasn't playing when dual wield was good so can't comment. But this is indeed an issue if 99% of stam players use 2-hand. I'm all for buffs but dont have faith that they will come. Easiest way is just to hammer down the nail.
If 99% of stam players use 2H, then I might interpret that to mean that 2H is the only weapon line ZOS has not nerfed to the ground and thus have skills that are actually impactful to fulfill their supposed function
I spend about 5% of my game time on stamina toons, so that's mostly a guess. Though I would assert that if someone is getting ripped by the Executioner skill, their PvP issues go a lot deeper. The skill is only worth casting when the target is almost already dead (read losing the fight to begin with) and it has very short range and is not that hard to avoid.
Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.5
