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Can we hardcore nerf 2-hand executioner already?

Ryuvain
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Like 90% of stam players are using this in PvP. It's seriously getting old. It's been the top pvp weapon for the longest.
That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.
  • Araneae6537
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    I don’t see that as a reason for a nerf, especially since it’s available to all classes. It’s only one of many abilities I’ve seen on my death recap, along with plenty of class abilities and worst is armor, lol. It’s one thing for a player to kill me but not their armor! :lol:
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    I often see players just spamming this 😂. Best executioner in the game.
  • zaria
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    I don’t see that as a reason for a nerf, especially since it’s available to all classes. It’s only one of many abilities I’ve seen on my death recap, along with plenty of class abilities and worst is armor, lol. It’s one thing for a player to kill me but not their armor! :lol:
    This, also as 2H has higher burst and execute damage making it better for pvp leaving DW bar for PvE.
    Many classes has much more useful executes anyway.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • ArchMikem
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    Take away its AoE.
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  • StarOfElyon
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    Ryuvain wrote: »
    Like 90% of stam players are using this in PvP. It's seriously getting old. It's been the top pvp weapon for the longest.

    It hits like a wet noodle when I use it. But yeah, the ability for people to spam executioner rapidly is hard to deal with. Templars have an execute but it's a channel so there's opportunity to kill the channeler.
  • Nord_Raseri
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    Nope
    Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.
  • BohnT2
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    All mag chars use destro ---> nerf it.

    You wonder why 90% of all stam specs use it?
    Because they have no other execute that's suitable for PvP, the only stam spec that has access to a class execute is stamnb and killer's blade is just a little too vulnerable to people dipping above 25% HP meaning you've wasted a precious gcd.
    If there was an universal useable execute for mag most specs used it too.



    Executioner and reverse slice are in absolutely no need of a nerf at all.
    You're just frustrated that someone bonked the living hell out of you.

    Edited by BohnT2 on February 2, 2021 8:36AM
  • Wing
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    perhaps its because its the only targeted stamina execute ability available to everyone?
    ESO player since beta.
    game got too disappointing.
  • Sleep724
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    Give classes their own mag and stam execute and this wouldn’t be an issue.
  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Take away its AoE.

    Executioner is single-target. You are thinking of Reverse Slice. Neither need to be nerfed though.
  • Girl_Number8
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    No....to the OP.

    It is a needed proper execute for stam characters, many have none. stamdens, stamplars, stamsorcs, stamdks and it is even better on stamblade. No nerfs are needed, it is a skill that fixes what is missing and not op in anyway.

    Guess you forgot to block, dodge, or streak away....
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on February 2, 2021 1:52AM
  • LightYagami
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    The next patch may introduce penalties to Light armour and Heavy armor. Light will be damaged harder by "martial" damage - weapon damage. No any penalties to Medium armor.

    Expect mag users be slaughtered even harder by executioner.
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  • dinokstrunz
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    The only problem I have with Executioner is how clunky it is, the low range is frustrating thanks to dodgy server side coding, you could be right on top of the enemy and see "target out of range". Damage wise the ability is fine. Is it much stronger than the other executes in the game, yes but it only hits one target and is melee range only.

    The other executes that could use improvements would be whirling blades and radiant destruction. Damage wise both of these are fine but like executioner they both have clunky issues. I would add 1 extra meter to whirling blades and reduce the noticeable delay on the first damage tick when firing Radiant Destruction.
  • volkeswagon
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    Gotta quit nerfing stuff
  • maxjapank
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    Perhaps the scaling of dmg can be tweaked.
  • techyeshic
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    I agree. How dare people still try to slot an active attack. Need a proc execute in stead and end this madness. Hopefully a proc that's automatic execute when the target reaches 25% health. Would bring much skill and diversity.
  • eso_lags
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Take away its AoE.

    So it doesnt break cloak? No.
  • eso_lags
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    No....to the OP.

    It is a needed proper execute for stam characters, many have none. stamdens, stamplars, stamsorcs, stamdks and it is even better on stamblade. No nerfs are needed, it is a skill that fixes what is missing and not op in anyway.

    Guess you forgot to block, dodge, or streak away....

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  • mickeyx
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    Ryuvain wrote: »
    Like 90% of stam players are using this in PvP. It's seriously getting old. It's been the top pvp weapon for the longest.

    We have to get used to the fact that PVP in this game isn't about skill. It's about who is running the FOTM build copy pasted from youtube. Once you PvP regularly you realise pretty much everyone is running the same builds
    Edited by mickeyx on February 2, 2021 4:52AM
  • ThorianB
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    I often see players just spamming this 😂. Best executioner in the game.

    I see it spammed a lot as well in BGs that and surprise attack over and over again.
  • Ryuvain
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    mickeyx wrote: »
    Ryuvain wrote: »
    Like 90% of stam players are using this in PvP. It's seriously getting old. It's been the top pvp weapon for the longest.

    We have to get used to the fact that PVP in this game isn't about skill. It's about who is running the FOTM build copy pasted from youtube. Once you PvP regularly you realise pretty much everyone is running the same builds

    I hate to admit it but you're right. I refuse to use proc sets and 2-hand on principle so I guess I'm mostly handicapping myself.

    Besides I just think dual wield is cooler overall, but it doesn't even have half of what 2-hand offers. Not even it's own cc or off-balance.
    That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
    Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.
  • russelmmendoza
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    Also hardnerf warden and necromancer please.
  • Katahdin
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    The next patch may introduce penalties to Light armour and Heavy armor. Light will be damaged harder by "martial" damage - weapon damage. No any penalties to Medium armor.

    Expect mag users be slaughtered even harder by executioner.

    Most light armor has shields that medium armor doesnt have.

    Executioner is sometimes the only way to get a healbot heavy armor tanky down.
    So no it doesnt need a nerf
    Edited by Katahdin on February 2, 2021 5:40AM
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  • Tharonil
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    Please nerf nothing. I you want to change something, buff other stuff.
  • Ryuvain
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    The next patch may introduce penalties to Light armour and Heavy armor. Light will be damaged harder by "martial" damage - weapon damage. No any penalties to Medium armor.

    Expect mag users be slaughtered even harder by executioner.

    Most light armor has shields that medium armor doesnt have.

    Executioner is sometimes the only way to get a healbot heavy armor tanky down.
    So no it doesnt need a nerf

    I mean, heavy armor is overperforming too. Both could be brought down imo.

    Also light armor can spam shields, but it's cut just like healing. If they're spamming shields they're not attacking either. Just a slower death really.
    Edited by Ryuvain on February 2, 2021 5:48AM
    That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
    Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.
  • ThorianB
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    Tharonil wrote: »
    Please nerf nothing. I you want to change something, buff other stuff.
    I agree we should buff the cast time to 1.1 seconds.

  • Massacre_Wurm
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    Yep. Executioner is too good in no cp environment amd stam in general.
  • spartaxoxo
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    I would personally up the cost so it's not used as both a spammable and an execute, I think that part of it is pretty bs. I would also maybe lower the damage but then make both versions have more reliable targeting so it isn't so easy to just waltz past it. Right now it's spammability is justified by how stupid easy it is to screw up it's targeting resulting in people avoiding deaths they should eat.
  • Pauwer
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    It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.
  • ThorianB
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    Pauwer wrote: »
    It just shows ridiculous numbers when someone hits you with it when you have like 4% life left. It doesn't do that much damage really in other situations. At least so it is for me. I just yesterday had like 10 players spamming execute on me, only the last hit had those big numbers, others 1-2k.

    Must be nice. Im getting hit for 5-8k with 5 pc gold impen gear.
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