NA person playing on EU server?

coop500 · January 2021

Is this a bad idea? Is the performance hit severe?

Now, before everyone goes 'why are you doing that?' I am a alt-aholic, and I have bought every buyable slot on NA, but then I quit the game for like... Two years. And now I have a CRAPLOAD of characters who probably had big complicated plans but now I... don't remember what those plans are. It's daunting, I want to wipe the slate like, partly clean (don't lost my crafter haha) and it also is trying to lure me back to the reason I quit, being obsessed with number crunching.

So I want to play on EU for a 'fresh' feel, clean of the old plans, the old characters and the old ways. But I've been experiencing a LOT of disconnects, getting kicked to the title screen with a random message that basically means I got booted from the game for no obvious reason. It's become hard to even do overland quests.

So my question is, is it because I actually live in the US? Should I not invest too much into this EU account? Should I just try to clean up my NA mess and salvage it?

emilyhyoyeon · January 2021

I've been playing on EU from east coast NA since I started. I've played using various strengths of internet connections and they never really affected my performance on and connection to EU. ESO is very strange with this stuff though, but I've always been able to hold connection fine.

There was a period of incessant disconnects that happened to me twice. After troubleshooting with my friends' help, both times it was solved by using a VPN. Maybe you have the same issue

Ghanima_Atreides · January 2021

I'm the opposite - EU person playing (also) on the NA server, for the same reasons. It's usually fine, I occasionally get slight lag, but that even happens on EU at times.

coop500 · January 2021

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

I'm the opposite - EU person playing (also) on the NA server, for the same reasons. It's usually fine, I occasionally get slight lag, but that even happens on EU at times.

Yeah I am currently trying out NA and I am getting horrible lagging when just trying to do a parse at my house. Not a full disconnect but I imagine if I was actually doing anything I'd get DCed.

I dunno if it's the game or something on my end but... Oh well haha.

All the cool stuff I have on my NA account makes me feel pain though.

craybest · January 2021

I'm EU playing at NA since before I lived in America (the continent).
Now i get betwen 300 and 600 ping. I won'der if that's the reason...

Butterbeans · January 2021

I started an EU character a couple months ago and my experience has been pleasant so far. Keep in mind that I'm mainly doing overland questing. My ping is usually around 200- only time I experience some lag is in dungeons.

Danikat · January 2021

One thing to be aware of if you do this: crown store purchases do not carry over to the other server but your crown balance does.

Anything you buy outside the game (like ESO+ or chapters purchased through the website) is available on both servers, and that includes any crowns that you buy. But once you spend them they're gone from both servers and whatever you purchase is only available on the one you're logged into at the time.

So if you're not committing to the EU server yet you might want to avoid buying anything from the crown store and switch to NA to get anything you do want to buy.

Sylvermynx · January 2021

I play on PC EU as well as NA. My only connection is satellite; the ping on both averages about 750ms. But this is the 3rd MMO I've played, and this is a far better satellite now than what I used to have - the old one, my ping was always over 2k ms.

Anyway, I don't do any group content or "endgame" on either server. I never have crashes etc. For me, things work just fine. YMMV of course.

CrashTest · January 2021

You'll notice the lag. It adds +100 ping for me.

kargen27 · January 2021

A friend has accounts on PC and Playstation (several on PC) and he plays both NA and EU. Most of the time his only complaint about EU is finding a group because of time differences. He doesn't seem to have a problem but he doesn't PvP and doesn't do a lot of trials.

MaddPowered · January 2021

I play on both servers. Ping on eu for me is sub 200, not that big of a difference tbh

kadochka · January 2021

Danikat wrote: »

One thing to be aware of if you do this: crown store purchases do not carry over to the other server but your crown balance does.

Anything you buy outside the game (like ESO+ or chapters purchased through the website) is available on both servers, and that includes any crowns that you buy. But once you spend them they're gone from both servers and whatever you purchase is only available on the one you're logged into at the time.

So if you're not committing to the EU server yet you might want to avoid buying anything from the crown store and switch to NA to get anything you do want to buy.

This, first off. Very important. Chapters and Crown balances are shared. Anything purchased within the Crown Store (cosmetics and DLCs) are not. (Though obviously the DLC will be shared if you have Plus.)

Second, I can't help with the constant disconnects. I've been playing on EU for years (living in NA region) and have been doing fine. There are different 'peak hours' for EU than NA, for sure, but I'm not sure that's your issue...

(Good luck regardless! and try to have fun! )

MirandaSharp · January 2021

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

I'm the opposite - EU person playing (also) on the NA server, for the same reasons. It's usually fine, I occasionally get slight lag, but that even happens on EU at times.

You're a farmer, no?

MirandaSharp · January 2021

coop500 wrote: »

So my question is, is it because I actually live in the US? Should I not invest too much into this EU account? Should I just try to clean up my NA mess and salvage it?

If you're close to the EU-US backbone connection hubs, the network lag shouldn't be much of a problem. The bigger problem is maybe with yourself. You need to understand yourself and what you really want. Usually the people in the US playing on EU servers do it because EU servers are way more populated and can get groups much faster than on the US servers. But you'd be playing on odd times for living in the US. I think, if you want to have a normal life in the US, you should probably use the NA server, and sort yourself out instead of looking for other servers to help with your problem..

Ghanima_Atreides · January 2021

MirandaSharp wrote: »

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

I'm the opposite - EU person playing (also) on the NA server, for the same reasons. It's usually fine, I occasionally get slight lag, but that even happens on EU at times.

You're a farmer, no?

Not even close.

I'm an altaholic, and ran out of space on the EU server.

MirandaSharp · January 2021

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

MirandaSharp wrote: »

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

I'm the opposite - EU person playing (also) on the NA server, for the same reasons. It's usually fine, I occasionally get slight lag, but that even happens on EU at times.

You're a farmer, no?

Not even close. I'm an altaholic, and ran out of space on the EU server.

Oh god!!!... The only real benefit I can see from playing on US server when everyone is asleep(typically EU daytime) is that you get to farm pristine nodes with no other farmers around. And in the evening you can sell it for mucho moolah in the guild stores...

Ghanima_Atreides · January 2021

MirandaSharp wrote: »

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

MirandaSharp wrote: »

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

I'm the opposite - EU person playing (also) on the NA server, for the same reasons. It's usually fine, I occasionally get slight lag, but that even happens on EU at times.

You're a farmer, no?

Not even close. I'm an altaholic, and ran out of space on the EU server.

Oh god!!!... The only real benefit I can see from playing on US server when everyone is asleep(typically EU daytime) is that you get to farm pristine nodes with no other farmers around. And in the evening you can sell it for mucho moolah in the guild stores...

I play alone or with my boyfriend so I don't mind that everyone is asleep. In fact, this usually means quest areas are less busy so it's a bonus (less so for doing world bosses and such but I manage eventually.) I don't farm because I lack the patience/dedication.

Hapexamendios · January 2021

Live in Japan. Play mostly on NA and some on EU. Can't say I noticed any difference.

coop500 · January 2021

MirandaSharp wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

So my question is, is it because I actually live in the US? Should I not invest too much into this EU account? Should I just try to clean up my NA mess and salvage it?

If you're close to the EU-US backbone connection hubs, the network lag shouldn't be much of a problem. The bigger problem is maybe with yourself. You need to understand yourself and what you really want. Usually the people in the US playing on EU servers do it because EU servers are way more populated and can get groups much faster than on the US servers. But you'd be playing on odd times for living in the US. I think, if you want to have a normal life in the US, you should probably use the NA server, and sort yourself out instead of looking for other servers to help with your problem..

Wow this is... so much incorrect assumptions lol.

I'm a solo player and couldn't care less about how many people are on. If anything, fewer the better.

As I explained in the OP, the REAL reason (if you bothered to read it) is I wanted a fresh start without losing progress and becoming overwhelmed on the NA side. (Which has 18 characters and half of them I dunno what I was doing with)

You are right, it's about me sorting myself out, but you're wrong about what parts.

MirandaSharp · January 2021

coop500 wrote: »

MirandaSharp wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

So my question is, is it because I actually live in the US? Should I not invest too much into this EU account? Should I just try to clean up my NA mess and salvage it?

If you're close to the EU-US backbone connection hubs, the network lag shouldn't be much of a problem. The bigger problem is maybe with yourself. You need to understand yourself and what you really want. Usually the people in the US playing on EU servers do it because EU servers are way more populated and can get groups much faster than on the US servers. But you'd be playing on odd times for living in the US. I think, if you want to have a normal life in the US, you should probably use the NA server, and sort yourself out instead of looking for other servers to help with your problem..

Wow this is... so much incorrect assumptions lol.

I'm a solo player and couldn't care less about how many people are on. If anything, fewer the better.

As I explained in the OP, the REAL reason (if you bothered to read it) is I wanted a fresh start without losing progress and becoming overwhelmed on the NA side. (Which has 18 characters and half of them I dunno what I was doing with)

You are right, it's about me sorting myself out, but you're wrong about what parts.

"a fresh start without losing progress" -By swithching servers??? - Not possible... And that's simply how it works from a technical point of view.

coop500 · January 2021

MirandaSharp wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

MirandaSharp wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

So my question is, is it because I actually live in the US? Should I not invest too much into this EU account? Should I just try to clean up my NA mess and salvage it?

If you're close to the EU-US backbone connection hubs, the network lag shouldn't be much of a problem. The bigger problem is maybe with yourself. You need to understand yourself and what you really want. Usually the people in the US playing on EU servers do it because EU servers are way more populated and can get groups much faster than on the US servers. But you'd be playing on odd times for living in the US. I think, if you want to have a normal life in the US, you should probably use the NA server, and sort yourself out instead of looking for other servers to help with your problem..

Wow this is... so much incorrect assumptions lol.

I'm a solo player and couldn't care less about how many people are on. If anything, fewer the better.

As I explained in the OP, the REAL reason (if you bothered to read it) is I wanted a fresh start without losing progress and becoming overwhelmed on the NA side. (Which has 18 characters and half of them I dunno what I was doing with)

You are right, it's about me sorting myself out, but you're wrong about what parts.

"a fresh start without losing progress" -By swithching servers??? - Not possible... And that's simply how it works from a technical point of view.

Losing progress on the NA side. Please read my posts fully before attacking, thank you.

MirandaSharp · January 2021

coop500 wrote: »

MirandaSharp wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

MirandaSharp wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

So my question is, is it because I actually live in the US? Should I not invest too much into this EU account? Should I just try to clean up my NA mess and salvage it?

If you're close to the EU-US backbone connection hubs, the network lag shouldn't be much of a problem. The bigger problem is maybe with yourself. You need to understand yourself and what you really want. Usually the people in the US playing on EU servers do it because EU servers are way more populated and can get groups much faster than on the US servers. But you'd be playing on odd times for living in the US. I think, if you want to have a normal life in the US, you should probably use the NA server, and sort yourself out instead of looking for other servers to help with your problem..

Wow this is... so much incorrect assumptions lol.

I'm a solo player and couldn't care less about how many people are on. If anything, fewer the better.

As I explained in the OP, the REAL reason (if you bothered to read it) is I wanted a fresh start without losing progress and becoming overwhelmed on the NA side. (Which has 18 characters and half of them I dunno what I was doing with)

You are right, it's about me sorting myself out, but you're wrong about what parts.

"a fresh start without losing progress" -By swithching servers??? - Not possible... And that's simply how it works from a technical point of view.

Losing progress on the NA side. Please read my posts fully before attacking, thank you.

Attacking? I was trying to help..

HumbleThaumaturge · January 2021

I currently live in North America (NA) and play on both the NA server and the EU server. I am maximum-CP on both servers, with master crafters on both servers. For about a year I played almost exclusively on the EU server. I found the EU players to be very friendly and fun-loving and helpful. While there are many, many fine players on the NA server, I had more fun on the EU server, just a different gamer philosophy, especially in my main EU guild. I'm not insulting NA players: there many fine players on NA server too.

Latency was not a problem for me playing the EU server from North America. My EU guildmates reported Latencies of about 40 milliseconds on the EU server, much better than I have ever achieved on the NA server. Playing the EU server from North America, my Latency has been around 160 milliseconds, lower (I hear) than for Australians playing on the NA server. But Latency might sometimes spike to 200 milliseconds. Would like lower Latency, of course, but game-play was entirely doable.

I stopped playing EU server primarily because of EU server performance problems. Also, I was in a great guild on EU server, so I could always find players to support most content, but not PvP. The PvP population became too low on the EU server for me.

One does need to start over from scratch on EU server. If you want that experience, you can buy another account on the NA server. Last time they were on sale, they were only 8 dollars or so (you need a another email account for the other account). That will give you 9 new characters to play. However, you will not have the Expansions and DLC you may currently have. Of course, you can immediately start playing the EU server with your current account without any cost. You will have all the Expansions you paid for on your NA account; however, you won't have the DLC you paid for on your NA account; you will need to buy those again for the EU account.

It takes about 13 months to get your new crafter to 9-trait on everything. And, of course, all your new characters will start with 0/0/0 on horse, requiring some 6 months of riding lessons to get to 60/60/60.

shadyjane62 · January 2021

When Elsweyr started made chars on EU so I could play. So many people on NA and a long queue. I was enthusiastic till after a couple of months I realized EU was deserted more and more at US times. I now have one char marooned on EU that I sometimes remember to play.

Don't do it. I regularly wipe chars and start over except for main who is everything. Crafter, achievement getter and main squeeze.

If you pvp at all, just forget playing on EU.

Mik195 · January 2021

I'm in Colorado and play on both Xbox NA and EU. I don't see much difference. I think EU might be slightly more laggy, but it balances out by having less population when I'm playing.

Brrrofski · January 2021

I'm in EU, and when I played NA server on xbox for a bit, didn't really notice any difference.

But then again, lag is so bad in pvp it's impossible to even tell

Aigym_Hlervu · January 2021

Been playing on the EU server with an old friend of mine separated by the ocean. No lags on the US East Coast side, and even the same locations load a bit faster than on the European part. No lags in Cyrodiil either.

TwinLamps · January 2021

I am EU playing on 5 accounts on both PC megaservers.

Reverb · January 2021

I’m on the US west coast and play on the PC EU server once or twice a week (583CP there). I do dungeons and pvp, and have done a few trials.

The Good
Ping average is 180-250, which isn’t terrible. DLC areas average higher. This very moment I have 223 ping in Solitude.

I get better performance in Cyrodiil than I usually get on NA, because my peak hours are outside of EU prime time, pops are low (2 bars all) and skills, bar swap, and break free actually works! I hear from guildies that prime time performance there is just as garbage as NA prime time is for us.

There is no notable performance degradation. In dungeons, trials, or overland, with a few exceptions.

The Bad
Load screens. While performance in dungeons and trials is fine, getting into them isn’t. I have a 50% chance of getting a really long load screen that times out and boots to login when porting into an instance, including cyrodiil or BG. It has completely turned me away from EU BG because of the high likelihood that I’ll get booted from load screen and get a cool down. There are also more random load screens in cyrodiil.

Overall not a bad experience at all, and the EU community is active and welcoming. I’ve got great guilds there.