Major Gallop Unlocked at Assault Rank 3 or with Adept Rider Set on PTS!

silvereyes · January 2021

From the Update 29 PTS week 1 patch notes:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7093844/#Comment_7093844

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Alliance War
Assault
Continuous Attacks: This passive now always grants Major Gallop when purchased at rank 1 or 2.

Rapid Maneuvers:
This ability and its morphs no longer grant Major Gallop on cast since it is no longer necessary.

Reduced the cost of this ability to 6426, down from 6885.

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Crafted
Adept Rider: This set now permanently grants Major Gallop and Major Expedition when worn, rather than granting Major Evasion while mounted and creating a harmful area that damages and grants Major Evasion to you and group mates after dismounting.
Developer Comment:
With this rework, we expect this set to remain niche in functionality, but far more beginner and crafter friendly by helping traverse the game world, especially when at lower levels when you cannot attain these buffs easily.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!

Edit: Just confirmed on PTS, but Continuous Attacks grants Major Gallop at all times - including in PvE zones - not just when in Cyrodiil or after a resource / keep capture.

PizzaCat82 · January 2021

So they moved major gallup to be a passive, and thats what rapids gave when running, right?

AlnilamE · January 2021

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

So they moved major gallup to be a passive, and thats what rapids gave when running, right?

Major Gallop applies when you are mounted (and was the part that lasted longer).

Major Expedition is the buff that applies when you are running.

It's not a complete reversal, but oh well....

Myrddin1357 · January 2021

AlnilamE wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

So they moved major gallup to be a passive, and thats what rapids gave when running, right?

Major Gallop applies when you are mounted (and was the part that lasted longer).

Major Expedition is the buff that applies when you are running.

It's not a complete reversal, but oh well....

Doesn't this mean you will always have major gallop when mounted once you spend a few skill points? If so, this is way better that it ever was. Don't have to waste a skill slot to have major gallop.

AlnilamE · January 2021

That would be correct.

HankTwo · January 2021

Great change, thanks ZOS!

silvereyes · January 2021

Myrddin1357 wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

So they moved major gallup to be a passive, and thats what rapids gave when running, right?

Major Gallop applies when you are mounted (and was the part that lasted longer).

Major Expedition is the buff that applies when you are running.

It's not a complete reversal, but oh well....

Doesn't this mean you will always have major gallop when mounted once you spend a few skill points? If so, this is way better that it ever was. Don't have to waste a skill slot to have major gallop.

Either way, it is worlds better than the situation on live today, where you need Assault rank 5. Rank 3 is so easy, you can get it just with Daily Login Rewards some months.

renne · January 2021

Myrddin1357 wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

So they moved major gallup to be a passive, and thats what rapids gave when running, right?

Major Gallop applies when you are mounted (and was the part that lasted longer).

Major Expedition is the buff that applies when you are running.

It's not a complete reversal, but oh well....

Doesn't this mean you will always have major gallop when mounted once you spend a few skill points? If so, this is way better that it ever was. Don't have to waste a skill slot to have major gallop.

Thanks god for that. Real happy to spend the skill points not to have to grind for a skill that needs casting.

Dagoth_Rac · January 2021

Doesn't Continuous Attack only apply for 10 minutes after taking an objective in Cyrodiil? Is this Major Gallop somehow part of that passive but does not require the normal passive conditions?

The_Lex · January 2021

It also means that PvE will have to get Major Gallop from some other source. Adept Rider? Lolol

VaranisArano · January 2021

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Doesn't Continuous Attack only apply for 10 minutes after taking an objective in Cyrodiil? Is this Major Gallop somehow part of that passive but does not require the normal passive conditions?

That's what I'm curious about. If Major Gallop is continuous when mounted, this is a good change.

If Major Gallop only applies when mounted for 10 minutes after capturing an objective, I'm much less happy. Like, sure, that makes it easier to get to my next objective after I win. What it doesn't do is help with getting to my first objective or getting to the next objective after I lose.

trackdemon5512 · January 2021

ADEPT RIDER. Free major gallop and expedition.

AlnilamE · January 2021

VaranisArano wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Doesn't Continuous Attack only apply for 10 minutes after taking an objective in Cyrodiil? Is this Major Gallop somehow part of that passive but does not require the normal passive conditions?

That's what I'm curious about. If Major Gallop is continuous when mounted, this is a good change.

If Major Gallop only applies when mounted for 10 minutes after capturing an objective, I'm much less happy. Like, sure, that makes it easier to get to my next objective after I win. What it doesn't do is help with getting to my first objective or getting to the next objective after I lose.

That's literally the only reason I'm logging on to the PTS tonight.

But the patch note says "This passive now always grants Major Gallop when purchased at rank 1 or 2."

So I'm guessing (hoping) it always applies.

silvereyes · January 2021

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

ADEPT RIDER. Free major gallop and expedition.

I missed that at first. Thanks for pointing it out. OP is now updated.

DarcyMardin · January 2021

So what does Rapids even do now??

UltraMex · January 2021

Thanks the lord! I want to play Alliance War but, my god! The map is too big and I'm too slow to get anywhere, I'd would have quit before I get to rank 5.

silvereyes · January 2021

DarcyMardin wrote: »

So what does Rapids even do now??

Grants Major Expedition (+30% unmounted movement speed) to your entire group for 8 seconds for a cost of 6426 stamina.

Cirantille · January 2021

Finally

Dont need an add on for this that gets stuck in combat at times

VaranisArano · January 2021

AlnilamE wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Doesn't Continuous Attack only apply for 10 minutes after taking an objective in Cyrodiil? Is this Major Gallop somehow part of that passive but does not require the normal passive conditions?

That's what I'm curious about. If Major Gallop is continuous when mounted, this is a good change.

If Major Gallop only applies when mounted for 10 minutes after capturing an objective, I'm much less happy. Like, sure, that makes it easier to get to my next objective after I win. What it doesn't do is help with getting to my first objective or getting to the next objective after I lose.

That's literally the only reason I'm logging on to the PTS tonight.

But the patch note says "This passive now always grants Major Gallop when purchased at rank 1 or 2."

So I'm guessing (hoping) it always applies.

I hope so! After all, it just occurred to me that having it always apply in every circumstance will work in PVE, while having it be after capturing a Cyrodiil objective will never work in PVE.

Anyways, thanks for checking!

Scardan · January 2021

Great change, if it is always applied.

Everstorm · January 2021

Glad I couldn't be bothered to lvl up the alliance skill level of all my characters that lost Rapids.

Kwoung · January 2021

So now instead of using the FastRide addon, everyone will be using Dressing Room when they mount up to put on their Adept Rider outfit, and instead of getting stuck with one bad skill on your bar from accidental combat, you are stuck wearing a completely garbage set of gear and can't kill a fly. Yup, can't see this going wrong in any way.

silvereyes · January 2021

Kwoung wrote: »

So now instead of using the FastRide addon, everyone will be using Dressing Room when they mount up to put on their Adept Rider outfit, and instead of getting stuck with one bad skill on your bar from accidental combat, you are stuck wearing a completely garbage set of gear and can't kill a fly. Yup, can't see this going wrong in any way.

Why would anyone need an addon? They will have passive Major Gallop all the time with a single skill point into Assault > Continuous Attacks. Seems like an improvement to me.

The only reason to wear Adept Rider would be for < level 10 players or crafting/farming alts that either want the Major Expedition bonus too, or can't be bothered to get to Alliance War rank 3.

LjMjollnir · January 2021

As long as thats how it works...

i have a feeling that its going to be Cyrodiil only skill now and if you want the riding speed you'l need the new set.. thats going to be a bummer if that is the case .. i really hope not.. but who knows...

Prax3des · January 2021

Myrddin1357 wrote: »

Doesn't this mean you will always have major gallop when mounted once you spend a few skill points? If so, this is way better that it ever was. Don't have to waste a skill slot to have major gallop.

Continuous is a passive that only works in Cyrodiil though, only after you've captured a resource or keep, so that particular change won't affect PVE at all. Keep that in mind.

silvereyes · January 2021

Prax3des wrote: »

Myrddin1357 wrote: »

Doesn't this mean you will always have major gallop when mounted once you spend a few skill points? If so, this is way better that it ever was. Don't have to waste a skill slot to have major gallop.

Continuous is a passive that only works in Cyrodiil though, only after you've captured a resource or keep, so that particular change won't affect PVE at all. Keep that in mind.

Well, the patch notes say that the Major Gallop buff will always be applied with the passive.

Continuous Attacks: This passive now always grants Major Gallop when purchased at rank 1 or 2

To me, that says that the resource/keep capture requirement won't pertain to Major Gallop, only to the damage / regen portions of the passive.

Rebirthment · January 2021

Oh ok phew. At first i thought it was terrible because you had to attack a keep/rss every 10 mins but it being always active is great! Means no more rapids addon which can bug at times!

silvereyes · January 2021

Just confirmed on PTS. Major Gallop passive is always applied while mounted.

Welven · January 2021

silvereyes wrote: »

Just confirmed on PTS. Major Gallop passive is always applied while mounted.

Its going to be nice not having to waste a skill slot on rapids if this makes it to the live server.

PizzaCat82 · January 2021

Does it work outside cyro? I assume it does just want to make double sure.

Vevvev · January 2021

I don't know what to say but.... wow. I was not expecting anything like this at all.