Disappointing that skills and sets work correctly? Its never actually made any sense as to why cloak just straight out stops all incoming DOT damage. it doesn’t pause it, it straight out ignores them which the skill doesn’t even say is party of its effects. cloak acting as a quasi cleanse seems as though [snip] they simply just switch off all incoming DOT damage while cloak is up.

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Fawn4287 wrote: »

Disappointing that skills and sets work correctly? Its never actually made any sense as to why cloak just straight out stops all incoming DOT damage. it doesn’t pause it, it straight out ignores them which the skill doesn’t even say is party of its effects. cloak acting as a quasi cleanse seems as though [snip] they simply just switch off all incoming DOT damage while cloak is up.

That may be so, but you have to take into consideration that the game has evolved around this for years. Magblade healing is weak in PvP. It heals from damage with Swallow Soul and Siphoning Attacks. That's about it. You have to slot a resto staff. Your class heal is the other morph of Cloak. Yes, there are some other healing skills, but none of them are any good. PvP on a magblade for any length of time and you will find that what I'm saying is true. Yes, Shadowy disguise is a quasi cleanse, but magblade has come to depend on that.

ThePedge wrote: »

Yes Oblivions Foe breaks cloak, as well as Wild Impulse.

Oblivion's Foe ticks do not break cloak, but the ones from the BRP Destruction Staff do. Impulse itself is supposed to break cloak, since it's an AOE direct damage ability, but the DOT ticks shouldn't.

I suppose it's possible that the AOE morph of Soul Trap might go through cloak if cast on a target that is close enough to the Nightblade - I haven't tested that specifically. But if you cloak with Oblivion's Foe already applied, it will completely suppress the DOT and not be broken.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/556059/introducing-the-class-rep-bug-collection-campagin/p1

Class reps are doing pretty good job on tracking known bugs & then report them to dev team:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JdoJABqC2Uu6UTHZZlQM5QpUwAzSrTm3D7zdM2uZsh0/edit?usp=sharing

Tbh. I knew that Shadowy disguise is bugged and unreliable, but I had no idea it is THIS bad...

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ThePedge wrote: »

Yes Oblivions Foe breaks cloak, as well as Wild Impulse.

Oblivion's Foe ticks do not break cloak, but the ones from the BRP Destruction Staff do. Impulse itself is supposed to break cloak, since it's an AOE direct damage ability, but the DOT ticks shouldn't.

Are you sure? Since the two of you are conflicting, I guess I will have to go and test myself. Note that I believe Soul Trap does not uncloak you, but I suspect Oblivion's Foe does since the time it was changed into a separate DOT rather than merely boosting the Soul Trap DOT.

Waffennacht wrote: »

LIght and heavy attacks have always broken cloak and afaik has been intended

Negative, as far as I can remember, it’s been stated specifically that AOE’s are “supposed to break cloak”. I don’t ever remember hearing or reading about any kind of single target damage.
Actually, no I take that back. There was one patch or stent of patches a few years back where they were saying something like “ if the ability fires prior to the NightBlade entering cloak ...” or some god-awful mess like that. With as many Desyncs & awful performance we’ve had over the past two years regardless of whether it’s server-side or client-side I can’t imagine why any developer would think coding it in this manner would be a good idea.

I’ve heard rumors they were going to completely take away cloak (shadowy disguise) from the nightblade class, since after almost a decade they failed to be able to make it work properly, without breaking it every other patch. While I don’t play as much as I used to but after nearly a decade, they will truly be losing my subscription if they go this route & remove the skill from my class.

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fred4 wrote: »

wheem_ESO wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

Yes Oblivions Foe breaks cloak, as well as Wild Impulse.

Oblivion's Foe ticks do not break cloak, but the ones from the BRP Destruction Staff do. Impulse itself is supposed to break cloak, since it's an AOE direct damage ability, but the DOT ticks shouldn't.

Are you sure? Since the two of you are conflicting, I guess I will have to go and test myself. Note that I believe Soul Trap does not uncloak you, but I suspect Oblivion's Foe does since the time it was changed into a separate DOT rather than merely boosting the Soul Trap DOT.

I've seen claims that Oblivion's Foe breaks stealth, and it's mentioned in the document linked above, but if that's the case it must be a relatively recent development. From personal experience on a Magicka Necromancer in BGs, I never noticed my Oblivion's Foe breaking anyone out of cloak, but BRP Destruction Staff DOT ticks certainly seem to (it's a little odd though, I'll see messages that it "missed," though it'll still break the cloak).

Well, I'm still not sure here - because there was one player who made a point of chasing NBs who I have not run into again and thus not had the impetus to investigate further - but of course it would be a recent development. Oblivion's Foe used to merely amplify Soul Magic damage. Now it's a separate DOT, which gets applied when you use a Soul Magic ability.

Pjisic order passive spell orb also will target you while in stealth and break cloak.

Add Sheer Venom to the list.

Poison Injection was activating the proc earlier and it kept pulling me from Cloak.

Also can we confirm it is intended that pets are supposed to follow cloaked NBs? I'm seeing every pet following me and pulling me from Cloak.