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Werewolf pounce (Brutal Pounce IV) "breaks" and you suddenly can't use it.
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I've had this happen to me a number of times: I'll be running a dungeon with friends, pounce multiple times and then suddenly I can't continue using it. It happens randomly and I have to drop werewolf form (and then go back when the ult is ready) for it to reset where I can continue using it again.
My main class is a stam sorcerer - and I have werewolf at level 10.
I'm not sure if it's the base skill that's broken, or the morph and I can't always repeat it. It possibly happens when "spamming" the pounce button (leaping from mob to mob)...
My main class is a stam sorcerer - and I have werewolf at level 10.
I'm not sure if it's the base skill that's broken, or the morph and I can't always repeat it. It possibly happens when "spamming" the pounce button (leaping from mob to mob)...
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Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭I've noticed the same issue. Also on my StamSorc. No idea if it's class specific though.The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"I've always wanted to kick a duck up the arse" -Karl Pilkington, on the question what he'd do if it was the last day on earth.0 -
Belegnole✭✭✭✭✭gronkdamage wrote: »I've had this happen to me a number of times: I'll be running a dungeon with friends, pounce multiple times and then suddenly I can't continue using it. It happens randomly and I have to drop werewolf form (and then go back when the ult is ready) for it to reset where I can continue using it again.
My main class is a stam sorcerer - and I have werewolf at level 10.
I'm not sure if it's the base skill that's broken, or the morph and I can't always repeat it. It possibly happens when "spamming" the pounce button (leaping from mob to mob)...
You can pull up your skills and take Pounce off the bar completely. Then put it back on and you're good to go. It's only a workaround but it does work. I had to do it twice tonight. All of this while remaining in form.
Btw, when I say completely, it shouldn't be held by your cursor. So when you put it back on the bar you have to take it from the skill list.Edited by Belegnole on January 14, 2021 8:36AM1 -
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You can pull up your skills and take Pounce off the bar completely. Then put it back on and you're good to go. It's only a workaround but it does work. I had to do it twice tonight. All of this while remaining in form.
Btw, when I say completely, it shouldn't be held by your cursor. So when you put it back on the bar you have to take it from the skill list.
I'm working on a WW-tank (tormentor set) in which taunt is applied via Pounce. I can't change skills while in combat which makes tanking impossible as a WW atm.The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"I've always wanted to kick a duck up the arse" -Karl Pilkington, on the question what he'd do if it was the last day on earth.0 -
I have determined that the Bone Wall synergy breaks Brutal Pounce.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/558242/werewolf-brutal-pounce-brutal-carnage-bug-diagnosis#latest2 -
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Gah, I didn't even think about this - thanks for mentioning this.You can pull up your skills and take Pounce off the bar completely. Then put it back on and you're good to go. It's only a workaround but it does work. I had to do it twice tonight. All of this while remaining in form.
Btw, when I say completely, it shouldn't be held by your cursor. So when you put it back on the bar you have to take it from the skill list.
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Ruhlf✭✭✭It really puts a cramp in dungeons. It’s so fun to hop around - and this is like losing a third of your abilities as a WW.0
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Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭michelmephit wrote: »I have determined that the Bone Wall synergy breaks Brutal Pounce.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/558242/werewolf-brutal-pounce-brutal-carnage-bug-diagnosis#latest
ESO works in mysterious ways, just check out the explanation for missing skill points, as an example: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/558109/missing-skill-point-investigation-resolution/p1
Or when Nightblades got the Incap stun back, because the silencing effect was interfering with the block changes they wanted to introduce.
Some bugs show up as a symptom of something that's been yet "undiscovered".
For example, I noticed this bug when I was solo, trying level my WW skills in a public dungeon. There was no Bone Wall synergy available to me.
What class were you and what class was your friend supplying the synergy?
What gear did you have?
What's your CP allocation?Edited by Thoragaal on January 16, 2021 8:45AMThe road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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@Thoragaal as you say,
"Some bugs show up as a symptom of something that's been yet "undiscovered".
For example, I noticed this bug when I was solo, trying level my WW skills in a public dungeon. There was no Bone Wall synergy available to me."
That is quite true. While I have conclusively determined in that the Bone Wall synergy does break the Brutal Pounce in my tests, I acknowledged that, "we did not try every synergy, weapon ability, etc. out there. So there could be other triggers that might break Brutal Pounce, but I hope that the more of us who do these Process of Elimination tests, the sooner this very annoying glitch can be fixed."
Could there possibly be some debuffs you were hit with in that public dungeon that broke the Brutal Pounce? Class and gear did not seem to discriminate who was affected, but there could be more to it. My WW is a Warden wearing Blood Moon/Relequen/Molag Kena.
Which public dungeon were you in when your Brutal Pounce broke while solo? We could go there and test this to see if we can determine what broke Brutal Pounce and then try to replicate it under controlled conditions. If we are going to help @ZOS_GinaBruno determine what is breaking Brutal Pounce, we need to find something that is repeatable and can be replicated in tests like I did with the Bone Wall synergy.
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Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭michelmephit wrote: »@Thoragaal as you say,
"Some bugs show up as a symptom of something that's been yet "undiscovered".
For example, I noticed this bug when I was solo, trying level my WW skills in a public dungeon. There was no Bone Wall synergy available to me."
That is quite true. While I have conclusively determined in that the Bone Wall synergy does break the Brutal Pounce in my tests, I acknowledged that, "we did not try every synergy, weapon ability, etc. out there. So there could be other triggers that might break Brutal Pounce, but I hope that the more of us who do these Process of Elimination tests, the sooner this very annoying glitch can be fixed."
Could there possibly be some debuffs you were hit with in that public dungeon that broke the Brutal Pounce? Class and gear did not seem to discriminate who was affected, but there could be more to it. My WW is a Warden wearing Blood Moon/Relequen/Molag Kena.
Which public dungeon were you in when your Brutal Pounce broke while solo? We could go there and test this to see if we can determine what broke Brutal Pounce and then try to replicate it under controlled conditions. If we are going to help @ZOS_GinaBruno determine what is breaking Brutal Pounce, we need to find something that is repeatable and can be replicated in tests like I did with the Bone Wall synergy.
Mine is an Orc StamSorc: Selene, Briarheart, Hundings.
I really have no idea what public dungeon I was in. This is a few weeks ago, and I haven't touched the WW since then until today. I did Bad Man's Hallows without experiencing any issues with Brutal Pounce.
It's fully possible I was being being hit by something from someone else. But since the issue persisted, and I normally move away from other players, I don't see it as very probable.
I'd be willing to do some tests with you on various classes (PC/NA or EU doesn't matter). Send me a PM here on the forum.The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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gronkdamage✭✭✭I can say its 100% only Brutal Pounce - I morphed the skill to the other and it hasn't done it since.0
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joaotextor✭✭gronkdamage wrote: »I can say its 100% only Brutal Pounce - I morphed the skill to the other and it hasn't done it since.
I use Feral Pounce morph and every time I enter Imperial City, the ability is grayed out when turning into WW.
Also, if I try to use it on an enemy (regardless the distance) it shows "enemy out of range" (something like that).
Meaning: I definitely cannot use my WW build in Imperial City. Cyrodiil works fine BTW.0
