Who can guess this build?

Leukedonia · January 2021

1. This person hits hard. I'm assuming he/she wears Balorgh but cannot guess the rest of the gear set. What do you guys think?
2. How was this person able to cast TWO ULTIMATES in such a short amount of time? (Destro ult and Dawnbreaker)

IAmIcehouse · January 2021

A few ways I can think. Could have been sitting in a Zerg and he had Dead-waters guile--got it back from kills.

Or he and his buddy could be running Arkasis.

Bergzorn · January 2021

Or, small possibility, the player was emperor, which comes with strongly increased ulti gain.

BaiterOfZergs · January 2021

I might be out of touch but I don’t see any scenario outside of emp where you’d be able to cast the destro ult and then pop a dawnbreaker in a short period of time. Maybe akaviri dragon guard, Bloodspawn and potentates but that doesn’t seem too ideal.

Edit: unless that guy just wiped a bunch of people, if not then yeah the above is all I can think of.

FirmamentOfStars · January 2021

There is a 5 sec delay between the cast of the two ultimates. Which means base ult regen restored 15 ult points in that time.

Dawnbreaker costs around 120 ult points. So we are missing around 100 ult points.

The set arkasius genius restores like 45 ult points when drinking a potion. This effect also counts for buddies in your group. So a group of two people both using that set and chugging a potion would give like 90 ult points back.

If the guy already got one kill in that time frame, his dawnbreaker ult for sure is ready again, even without the kill, his ult should be almost ready. Any passive proc or set proc additional to arkasis would be enough.

VaranisArano · January 2021

The base game combat recap is not very good at giving the timing of when skills were cast, nor does it show all the damage in the fight. But then again, we weren't there to see what you saw.

How long do you think it took for the play to use those two ultimates?

Joy_Division · January 2021

No CP. Person in organized group. Dead Water + dead PuGs (with a couple KBs vis spin2win) by the group's bomb will get a cheap ulti like Dawnbreaker up.

katorga · January 2021

If I started with enough ultimate to drop colossus, my stamcro could generate enough ultimate to drop a dawnbreaker in that time. Ditto for my sorc, drop a dawnbreaker while Atro is still up. I think it is possible with a sorc to build enough ultimate generation or cost reduction to have two Atros up and overlapping for a short period.

Sneakers · January 2021

Quite surprised this stam sork runs a destro for its ulti but doesn't use Veteshran staff and elemental drain to get free 2k dps and debuff?

Kartalin · January 2021

SavageChain wrote: »

Dawnbreaker costs around 120 ult points. So we are missing around 100 ult points.

Since the attacker is a sorc, their DB will be even cheaper, like 107 I believe.

I've played a build that can do the same things listed. As others have mentioned the final recap that ZOS provides is not always a linear timeline. But the bottom line is if the player gets enough kills with the destro bomb + whirlwind execute, then they'll have a DB available quickly for any mop up.

One could run Balorgh + VD front bar + clever alch back bar + 1 trainee + mythic (snow treaders or wild hunt) as primarily a stam sorc and still have a strong bomb with good damage.

Kartalin · January 2021

Here's a build for no cp: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildEditor?id=308245

Build shown with stats while bombing (balorgh at 250 ult and clever alch proc): 5k wd, 12.5k phys pen, 14k spell pen. This would be done within an organized group though, not really a solo build with lower healing potential and 18k resists.

Herr_Flocke · January 2021

Leukedonia wrote: »

2. How was this person able to cast TWO ULTIMATES in such a short amount of time? (Destro ult and Dawnbreaker)

haha... yes, makes you wonder sometimes about some 'builds'. I once had a DK following me with 3 leaps in a row while I was trying to streak away on my mage.... looked kind of funny in the death recap

ThePedge · January 2021

Arkasis, Dead-Waters, Bloodspawn, all give easy ultimate.

He probably got kills with destro Ult and spin to win giving him Ult.

Can't see timestamps but if we assume his Destro ended, last 3 ticks hit you, then he Dawnbreakered. Could be 11 seconds between the two ultimate casts.
He could have easily got Ult from sets or killed up to 5 people with Destro and Spin2win which would give him Dawnbreaker.

angelofdeath333 · January 2021

Leukedonia wrote: »

1. This person hits hard. I'm assuming he/she wears Balorgh but cannot guess the rest of the gear set. What do you guys think?
2. How was this person able to cast TWO ULTIMATES in such a short amount of time? (Destro ult and Dawnbreaker)

Emp?

Goregrinder · January 2021

Looks like there are actually multiple ways to achieve this, as everyone above me pointed out.

I'm just curious...did you take a screenshot, paste it into MS Paint then screenshot the screenshot lol?