Low population bonus in cyro

Troll92 · January 2021

Don't know if this has been discussed here already but this is my personal opinion on it. I think low pop bonus should be removed as it is often exploited to gain score over factions who actually play actively. You shouldn't get rewarded for sitting around until the last day and then swooping into a zerg and taking all the map so you win a campaign. It negates the necesity of doing anything besides quests, plus it leads to toxicity in your own faction as i have seen posted around here, with players being asked to leave in order to get low pop bonus. Anyone care to counter?

Renegader · January 2021

i agree. AP gain? sure i can live with that.
Score points?? it ruins the already little competetive aspect of this games pvp

Bucky_13 · January 2021

I think in faction locked campaigns, it works better. Don't really have any issues there.
In the campaigns where you can switch alliance freely, it's far easier to exploit. Mass relog into enemy factions to give your alliance the low pop bonus and so on. Not sure how much it's actually done but it wouldn't hurt to remove from there. Most of the time when I see a faction with low pop bonus, they have less that 100 current points, often less than 50.

AP again should still be a thing in all of them however as it doesn't impact the score and does give players an incentive to play for the low pop faction(s).

Vlad9425 · January 2021

The score bonus for low pop factions needs to go. I’ve seen factions who completely outnumber the other 2 opposing factions during prime time get this bonus during server downtime’s which boosted their score immensely even though they were leading the campaign already...

Troll92 · January 2021

Bucky_13 wrote: »

I think in faction locked campaigns, it works better. Don't really have any issues there.
In the campaigns where you can switch alliance freely, it's far easier to exploit. Mass relog into enemy factions to give your alliance the low pop bonus and so on. Not sure how much it's actually done but it wouldn't hurt to remove from there. Most of the time when I see a faction with low pop bonus, they have less that 100 current points, often less than 50.

AP again should still be a thing in all of them however as it doesn't impact the score and does give players an incentive to play for the low pop faction(s).

Sorry but i think that in faction locked it's the most toxic. Sure it's not as abused by switching to other fa tion but you can just play low pop for 80% of the campaign on purpose and still get more points than other active alliances, ans then swoop in amd zerg the last 20% and win. Sorry but if you can't cut it playing like the others then go to non alliance locked. Alliamce locked should be the cream of campaigns, no bonuses for slacking off just good old fashioned pvp. Want to win by zerging? Zerg every day/weekend like the rest of us. It's only fair. I mean sure everyone abuses proc sets and 1 vs x's alot but adding low pop bonus abused on purpose? That's basically cheating but by the rules.

itscompton · January 2021

It can be taken advantage of, yes. However if you do away with it completely any faction that can night cap will quickly build up a lead large enough that a month long campaign will be decided in the first week.
Either way it's unfair to lose a campaign because of what happens in the middle of the night when the vast majority of players are asleep.
Unfortunately the only real solution would be to have an asian/aussie server (which isn't happening) with region locks on the different servers. This would eliminate the issue of players from a region in a totally different phase of the real world day/night cycle all grouped on one faction and running the NA/Euro server maps while everyone actually living in NA/Euro is offline.

Bucky_13 · January 2021

Troll92 wrote: »

Bucky_13 wrote: »

I think in faction locked campaigns, it works better. Don't really have any issues there.
In the campaigns where you can switch alliance freely, it's far easier to exploit. Mass relog into enemy factions to give your alliance the low pop bonus and so on. Not sure how much it's actually done but it wouldn't hurt to remove from there. Most of the time when I see a faction with low pop bonus, they have less that 100 current points, often less than 50.

AP again should still be a thing in all of them however as it doesn't impact the score and does give players an incentive to play for the low pop faction(s).

Sorry but i think that in faction locked it's the most toxic. Sure it's not as abused by switching to other fa tion but you can just play low pop for 80% of the campaign on purpose and still get more points than other active alliances, ans then swoop in amd zerg the last 20% and win. Sorry but if you can't cut it playing like the others then go to non alliance locked. Alliamce locked should be the cream of campaigns, no bonuses for slacking off just good old fashioned pvp. Want to win by zerging? Zerg every day/weekend like the rest of us. It's only fair. I mean sure everyone abuses proc sets and 1 vs x's alot but adding low pop bonus abused on purpose? That's basically cheating but by the rules.

The unlocked CP campaign is where I go with alts of other factions and just fool around until I have 25k ap for the transmute Crystal's, or do PvE stuff.

But people bending the rules is standard, night & morning capping is very much a thing as well in Cyro (PC EU) which heavily affects the end score.

Taleof2Cities · January 2021

Of all the issues affecting Cyrodiil right now the low pop bonus isn't high on the list ...

Nordic__Knights · January 2021

id be happy to see it go its bad when the low pop side is get 100+ points over the active teams then winning in the last 2-3 days by zergs and full pop

Grimlok_S · January 2021

I could care less about any given campaign's score. But I like double AP. That can stay.