Stupid...

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

Not sure why I'm posting this, but anyway...

This goes to the person who called me "stupid" whilst running FG2.

Yes, I know I'm stupid, I was wearing the Wild Hunt ring and racing in order to keep up, but I want you to know that this is only because it has to be worn otherwise you just fall behind. I hate speeding through dungeons, but since ZOS have attached transmute crystals to random dungeons, if you don't keep up then you fall so far behind. Heaven forbid you want to do the quest and stop for a second to talk to an NPC.

Also, I don't know you and I don't know who you are, but just be aware that telling someone they are stupid is in no way constructive.

I am someone with major depression. I tell myself I'm stupid all day, every day. I play ESO in order to escape these thoughts. This game has literally saved my life. Having someone else (other than myself) tell me I'm stupid doesn't help me escape my messed up brain. My thoughts are often debilitating - when your own mind is enemy number 1. Comments such as these stay with me and heighten the feelings of stupidity that I already feel 24/7. It proves that the horrible voice in my head is right and allows it to kick into overdrive. Others think the same so it must be right... right?

This goes to everyone... before you belittle another player in game, please take a second to consider that you are not aware of someone else's story or journey. We are living through crappy times which is hard for all of us. For some of us, our pre-existing mental health issues are only heightened by this.

I've had other players give me recommendations on how I can help the group do better and this type of advice is welcomed. I mean, who doesn't want to improve? But if all you want to do is tell me I'm stupid, then please keep it to yourself... or if you just HAVE to tell me I'm stupid, then could you at least whisper it?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you don't have something constructive to say then please keep it to yourself. Please!

MasterSpatula · January 2021

I know there's a lot of these people, but let me assure you, they're the...well, there's no word I can use here that's accurate, honest, or appropriate (or, for that matter, necessary) that ZOS won't moderate and give me a warning over, but I'm sure your imagination can get you there.

The current system is encouraging people who are deeply self-important and self-involved but incapable of self-reflection into content intended for anyone but them. It's not you. It's them.

Anotherone773 · January 2021

Honestly outside of doing my role, i try to ignore other players in dungeon the most i can. I use to tell them where chests and heavy sacks were but i don't even do that anymore. I just do my role and ignore everyone else. I don't sprint. There is no reason to sprint or move faster than normal speed in a dungeon and i absolutely refuse to do so. If they want to kick me so be it.. i play heals and tanks, my queue pops in less than 2 minutes on a bad day. And i play real heals and tanks, not fake ones chasing pledge keys and transmute crystals.

It is ridiculous the way some people in this game treat others. If other humans are such a hindrance to their enjoyment, then they should not be playing MMOs. If players who don't play their way are such a problem, maybe they should consider that the other player they are getting annoyed with and calling names is not the problem. That the problem is in fact them.

Adding crystals as a reward to dungeons like they did was one of the worst decisions ZOS has ever made when it came to dungeons or rewards in general. ZOS literally fertilizes the soil in which toxicity thrives with terrible decisions.

Red_Feather · January 2021

Make it so special enemies in dungeons drop a crystal and it's not a daily dungeon end reward. There could be 10 special enemies randomly placed throughout the dungeon for everyone to get crystal from.

Then people won't swap characters to get 100s of crystals in 10 speed runs. People will have to do dungeons again and help each other.

Stahlor · January 2021

The only proper consequence is to kick them!

wishlist14 · January 2021

delenn35 wrote: »

Not sure why I'm posting this, but anyway...

This goes to the person who called me "stupid" whilst running FG2.

I gave you an awesome cos you are awesome 😊
Your post is awesome and the fact that you had the smarts to wear that ring is awesome too 😊💕💕💕
Consider me your forever fan.

Players that speed run with no consideration for others in their group who may be doing quests etc , well they are the stupid inconsiderate bleep, bleeps 😆

I always say hi when i join a random group and i usually ask if anyone is doing the quest and there are some people that do it too. A lot of the time i dont get the chance to type cos someone has run off at olympic speed so i run behind them to catch up and do my job. Im happy you made this post cos this issue needs to be looked at by our zos team.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Honestly outside of doing my role, i try to ignore other players in dungeon the most i can. I use to tell them where chests and heavy sacks were but i don't even do that anymore. I just do my role and ignore everyone else. I don't sprint. There is no reason to sprint or move faster than normal speed in a dungeon and i absolutely refuse to do so. If they want to kick me so be it.. i play heals and tanks, my queue pops in less than 2 minutes on a bad day. And i play real heals and tanks, not fake ones chasing pledge keys and transmute crystals.

It is ridiculous the way some people in this game treat others. If other humans are such a hindrance to their enjoyment, then they should not be playing MMOs. If players who don't play their way are such a problem, maybe they should consider that the other player they are getting annoyed with and calling names is not the problem. That the problem is in fact them.

Adding crystals as a reward to dungeons like they did was one of the worst decisions ZOS has ever made when it came to dungeons or rewards in general. ZOS literally fertilizes the soil in which toxicity thrives with terrible decisions.

Thank you... I have always supported ZOS in every decision, but your message really hit a nerve.

Definitely one of the worst decisions they've made. Perhaps they could have attached the transmute crystals to daily writs? I don't know, but the way it is now isn't working.

Thanks for your response.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

Ackwalan wrote: »

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Thanks for your response. I appreciate it.

I want you to know that I know I'm stupid... I'm an idiot.

However, your response of "toughen up, Buttercup" proves how you know absolutely nothing about people dealing with a mental illness.

I pray you never have to experience it for yourself, or even worse, watch someone you love go through it.

Thanks again for taking the time to respond.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Honestly outside of doing my role, i try to ignore other players in dungeon the most i can. I use to tell them where chests and heavy sacks were but i don't even do that anymore. I just do my role and ignore everyone else. I don't sprint. There is no reason to sprint or move faster than normal speed in a dungeon and i absolutely refuse to do so. If they want to kick me so be it.. i play heals and tanks, my queue pops in less than 2 minutes on a bad day. And i play real heals and tanks, not fake ones chasing pledge keys and transmute crystals.

It is ridiculous the way some people in this game treat others. If other humans are such a hindrance to their enjoyment, then they should not be playing MMOs. If players who don't play their way are such a problem, maybe they should consider that the other player they are getting annoyed with and calling names is not the problem. That the problem is in fact them.

Adding crystals as a reward to dungeons like they did was one of the worst decisions ZOS has ever made when it came to dungeons or rewards in general. ZOS literally fertilizes the soil in which toxicity thrives with terrible decisions.

I have to say that I have suported ZOS through everything... through every single decision they have made no matter whether I have agreed or not.

However, what they have done here is, as you say... fertilise the soil of toxicity and discontent. Maybe they could have added the crystals as part of the rewards for handing in a daily writ.

Who knows? I'm sure I don't and I would never tell them what to do.

What I do know is that they have encouraged dominance and elitism by attaching crystals to dungeons.

One of the worst decisions they have ever made.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

Stahlor wrote: »

The only proper consequence is to kick them!

I agree and have tried.

Been successful one time only so far.

Nairinhe · January 2021

It's an MMO. You have to expect people not to be nice, but learn not to care what they say. They don't know you, how can their words have any weight?

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

Nairinhe wrote: »

It's an MMO. You have to expect people not to be nice, but learn not to care what they say. They don't know you, how can their words have any weight?

Yes... you're absolutley right... and anyone would agree with you and not give someone's words any weight at all.

However... we're not all the same.

Some of us have pre-existing issues which are quite hard to deal with.

We hear things that can't be shrugged off so easily. We hear things and unfortunately we believe them.

I wish hateful comments could be easily shrugged off.

For some of us it's not so easy.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

Nairinhe wrote: »

It's an MMO. You have to expect people not to be nice, but learn not to care what they say. They don't know you, how can their words have any weight?

You're so right and it just makes me want to revert to playing solo again.

Jayroo · January 2021

People in this game are so snobby, and it gets to me too. Just gotta remember that the people who act/say snobby things usually feel entitled because they worked hard to get perfect at this game and think they deserve top tier or they are just plainly a rude and unpleasant person.

Dps is very hard thing to master and everyone learns at their own pace, just because you don't follow a certain meta and don't weave every single attack and rebuff doesn't make you stupid, just means you need to work on some things to get better,

I'm cp 1000 and I haven't even completed every dungeon yet and still am not that great at the ones I have done, so whenever I feel like I'm going to get criticized I ask a friend or (in my case lol.) some guildmates if they want to run it with me and tell them my experience level so it gives me the opportunity to at least have someone willing to help me and be patient or so I'm not the only straggler/ low experienced person

Sorry if I got a bit rambley or dont make much sense i just really feel for that feeling of being singled out as the "worst" person

mobicera · January 2021

The easiest solution you probably don't want to hear is DON'T PUG!
That random finder is just full of nonsense.
Heck I can barely finish a random dungeon any longer if I don't preform.
However speed runs aren't my issue and I'm fine with boss to boss God pulls if its communicated and people can actually do it....hence don't pug...
You don't really typically get really insulted running with people you know as well and its easier on your wellbeing.

Just try and make some friends in game that you can run content with, I promise you it will exponentially better for you.

Noggin_the_Nog · January 2021

delenn35 wrote: »

Not sure why I'm posting this, but anyway...

This goes to the person who called me "stupid" whilst running FG2.

This goes to everyone... before you belittle another player in game, please take a second to consider that you are not aware of someone else's story or journey. We are living through crappy times which is hard for all of us. For some of us, our pre-existing mental health issues are only heightened by this.

I've had other players give me recommendations on how I can help the group do better and this type of advice is welcomed. I mean, who doesn't want to improve? But if all you want to do is tell me I'm stupid, then please keep it to yourself... or if you just HAVE to tell me I'm stupid, then could you at least whisper it?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you don't have something constructive to say then please keep it to yourself. Please!

Sadly this bad behavior does occur, and the griefers do not realize the effect it has.

You are not alone. I had it last year in a group dungeon and I was so upset I just quit. Not the best response - I know - but I did not want to put up with the abuse any longer. With afterthought maybe I should have argued, stood up to the abuser, but it's a game: I play for fun.

Playing a healer or tank I enjoy pugging group dungeons and can have quick queue times. I do meet some interesting players and have made many friends this way. The odd abusers now get blocked. If you are having problems try running group dungeons in a guild.

Have fun and stay safe.

Syldras · January 2021

I hope it doesn't sound harsh, but I see it this way: Of course it would be better if everyone was nice and polite - but they aren't. They just aren't. This is what mankind is - there will be very friendly people, but there will also be complete jerks. Always. So, contact with people always bears the risk of being treated unfriendly, whether outside in reality or in a multiplayer game. If you're searching for a solution - you can't change people, you can only change your reaction on their behaviour. It can be hard, I know, but everyone can learn it somehow. If someone has special problems with this, a therapist might help.

And before you write something like this again, because you are told that the only solution is to change your reaction, because you can't change other people:

delenn35 wrote: »

I pray you never have to experience it for yourself, or even worse, watch someone you love go through it

Please keep your own words in mind:

delenn35 wrote: »

please take a second to consider that you are not aware of someone else's story or journey

SickleCider · January 2021

Wild Hunt ring is valid. It's an extremely useful and versatile piece of equipment that even has combat benefits. You're not stupid.

thorwyn · January 2021

Verbal abuse is a bannable offense and should be reported. Sorry that this happened to you.

However, we all know how that this is the internet and we all know the world we live in. Communicating with someone you don't know and you can't see can be tricky. It is virtually impossible to avoid any triggers for possible psychological, medical or physical conditions on the receiving end. It is hard enough to avoid stepping on someone's toes these days if you're having the tendency for direct language.
To an extend, it is your responsibility to protect yourself, knowing that you are so severely affected by stuff like that. This is not victim blaming, this is not an apology for the people who have offended you. But somewhere along the line, you need to look out for yourself and make sure to not be exposed to those triggers.

WiseSky · January 2021

delenn35 wrote: »

who doesn't want to improve?

People usually want to improve when they hit rock bottom because of desperation or because they saw something they truly want to achieve aka inspiration.

The comfort zone is where the rest rests hence not improving.

You have usually lots of options, one extreme is to engage and spend time and energy on these people.

The other extreme is not focus on it and do your own thing, treating them as NPC's

Between is infinite options of possibilities.

Find what works for you.

Here are some Options pick one at random or consider:

A person insulting you is talking MUCH more about himself than about you. A person calling you an idiot shows that he is probably having lousy manners, a lousy upbringing, a bad temper and is a disrespectful person. All in all properties that do NOT speak well of him…

Try the Monty Python approach with something like "I fart in your general direction"

Aggressive Comebacks: Do yourself a favor and ignore anyone who tells you to be yourself. Bad idea in your case. Sometimes it’s better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you’re slow than open it and remove all doubt. The village called. They’d like their idiot back. You better get going. You have the right to remain silent because whatever you say will probably be stupid anyway. Stupidity’s not a crime, so feel free to go.

Be brutally honest: Tell them what you really think and feel and how their actions actually affect you like this post, opening up sometimes make the person realize how they are affecting people or they might double down, but so do you hence at some point someone will understand some points or just be more hurt

Reward Evil Deeds: Tell them how you are grateful that someone calls you stupid cause everyone is stupid at times, keep seeing their point of view and keep affirming they are totally right and how awesome it is that you learned from them. Also randomly send them Items in game mail, and reaffirm their genius, extra points if you write them poems.

Keep asking Why like a 5 year old. Stupid! ... Why?.... Easy Dungeon... Why?... Skip Bosses ... Why?... To finish faster ... Why? Faster rearwards ... why?.... Time=Money?... Why... Common Sense... Why?.... Logic.... Why? I am Stupid.. Why?....

Role Play With them. I once was in a dungeons with one of my crafters, Naked they only has surveys on them. I also was the tank. No weapons' or armor or skills. I started to fist fight only and run agro. When people started be like wtf, when I kept dying, I told them that my Character does not believe in weapons' or Taunts as a Tank and that real warrior only use what the gods gave them in flesh.... sure it took 45 mins to finish ARX but it was a memorable experience, its always about the journey and not the destination

Lie your ass off and make up stuff for fun: Sorry I am currently playing in the semi flooded basement after the deadly storm and have not set up my key binds on my kids laptop, hence its hard without addons to automatically switch to sprinting sets and I am not really familiar with skills bindings for sprint abilities. I know it sucks, I am sorry, but while my wife is asleep, this is the only time I get to play ESO since my gaming room was lost during that storm and Literally the ROOF flew off my house. OK BRB ! ... my wife is looking for me, I must stop typing she might hear me, since I am hiding in the closet in the basement trying to get the transmute ASAP, She thinks I went to the HomeHardWear Store trying to buy supplies to fix the blown off roof. Hence I will stay AFK at this NPC.

The long Con: This starts with you befriending them, with an alt account somehow ...and after 2-3 years of meticulous planning you become their best friend and love in game and when they need you the most you: Revenge

Remember that grain of salt

Syldras · January 2021

WiseSky wrote: »

delenn35 wrote: »

who doesn't want to improve?

People usually want to improve when they hit rock bottom because of desperation or because they saw something they truly want to achieve aka inspiration.
The comfort zone is where the rest rests hence not improving.

Or you might see life as a long journey of learning. Might not be the worst approach.

WiseSky wrote: »

The long Con: This starts with you befriending them, with an alt account somehow ...and after 2-3 years of meticulous planning you become their best friend and love in game and when they need you the most you: Revenge

Sounds like a waste of time to bother so much with some rando on the internet. Also, I'm not sure if this behaviour would be any better than just calling someone an idiot.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

I just want to thank everyone for their response... I’ve read every single reply and truly do appreciate it.

I understand what you’re saying... this is the Internet, I should take responsibility... and I do. If I let this affect me to that extent then I wouldn’t be playing ESO and to me, that is inconceivable.

I know I’m dealing with the general population, I know I’m not living in a perfect world, I know I’m not going to get people to change.

My hope in posting what I did is to try... to hope, someone would maybe... maybe (?) get someone to consider that their words have an impact. Not all of us can brush things off so easily. Even starting a discussion such as this is a win for me, just to be aware.

To everyone who has been supportive or tried to understand, thank you.

To everyone who has never been exposed to depression or mental illness, then I’m happy for you and I thank you for your response as well. I hope you never have to experience what it’s like to have someone say something negative to you and then you go right ahead and ruminate over it until it practically sends you around the bend. Even something so trivial stays with you. It goes around and around in your mind until you start to believe it. I know how frustrating it must be to have to watch what you say in case you hurt someone’s feelings. It’s not like that though... it’s just trying to speak with... or approach situations with kindness and in all honesty, that’s not so hard is it?

WiseSky · January 2021

Syldras wrote: »

WiseSky wrote: »

delenn35 wrote: »

who doesn't want to improve?

People usually want to improve when they hit rock bottom because of desperation or because they saw something they truly want to achieve aka inspiration.
The comfort zone is where the rest rests hence not improving.

Or you might see life as a long journey of learning. Might not be the worst approach.

WiseSky wrote: »

The long Con: This starts with you befriending them, with an alt account somehow ...and after 2-3 years of meticulous planning you become their best friend and love in game and when they need you the most you: Revenge

Sounds like a waste of time to bother so much with some rando on the internet. Also, I'm not sure if this behaviour would be any better than just calling someone an idiot.

Name Calling is easily done.

But ....remember

EveEve Online is often described by players not as a game, but as a part-time job. You can do well in the spacefaring MMO, but it takes time and plenty of it. Falling in with the right player-led guild is important, but patience is key.

David “Darvo Thellere” Schmitz proved that a few weeks ago when he made good on a personal vendetta. It’s a tale of revenge four years in the making.

“It all started back in 2013,” Schmitz told Polygon via email. He and another player, who goes by the handle “Lunarion,” had set out to recruit for a small corporation — the Eve equivalent of a guild — from like-minded newbies.

That’s when another player called “Kackpappe” first began to harass them.

Darvo Thellare Eve Who
Kackpappe was monitoring the help channel, designed to pool new players together and help provide them with an on-ramp into the game. Instead, he used what he learned there to harass them.

“He saw our post and declared war instantly on our corporation,” Schmitz said. “We had no clue what this meant, that people are able to follow you into every system, setup traps for you to login and that we had no realistic chance to fight back in our low-tier frigates.

“Our luck, we found some more experienced players that noticed all this and backed us up. They explained us how to avoid being ganked, how to move in player-versus-player fleets and supported us in fighting back.”

Schmitz says that he and Lunarion even tried to create a new corporation, but Kackpappe kept hounding them. It’s not something that’s against the rules in Eve, but even the most ruthless players give some leniency to those that are so green.

But not Kackpappe.

“He kept [declaring war on] this corporation as well,” Schmitz said. “Kackpappe was hunting us for 3 months. We were not able to do missions, mining or anything else to get money. ... We had a lot of chats with Kackpappe, argued why he would try to kill us, that we are not even worth the time in our small ships. That’s when he stated that he is just [doing it] for fun, to ruin our experience.

Eve Online’s world war, explained
“At this point i told him that somewhere and some when, I would find him and I would take all his assets in return.”

Eventually, Kackpappe got bored. But Schmitz never forgot. He says that he and his wingman Lunarion spent years working at the game to become accomplished mercenaries, even fighting against the legendary Pandemic Legion along Eve’s lawless outer rim.

“In what I wanted to achieve,” he said, “I was successful. I’ve met worse people in Eve over the years, people who stole billions from the corporation I was in, spies who gained trust on Teamspeak over a year and then betrayed our group. ... But Kackpappe was the first ‘bad guy‘ I’d ever met in Eve. The first guy that made me angry. And you don’t forget the first one.”

Schmitz’s plan to exact his revenge went into motion in earlier this month. He told the leadership of his new guild the four-year-old story, and they agreed to help Schmitz exact his revenge. He changed his name on Teamspeak to hide his in-game identity, and the guild invited Kackpappe to become a member.

“We made sure that we promised him the holy land and he took the bait,” Schmitz said.

Death is just an inconvenience in Eve. In the fiction of the world, a player’s consciousness simply moves into a new vessel. So to really hurt someone you have to do it the old-fashioned way. You have to take their money.

“When he joined our corporation,” Schmitz said, “the only thing we needed to make sure of was that he would put as many of his assets as possible into his carrier-sized vessel so we could deal the maximum amount of damage to him. We only had one problem: There was no real reason to ask him to put all his stuff into a carrier. Eve players are usually paranoid, and asking this would be strange.”

During the interview, Schmitz learned that the leader of Kackpappe’s old guild was pissed at him. He had blockaded Kackpappe, pinning him down with his own super capital ship. So Schmitz’s guild made a show of helping to break him free, and encouraged him to load his assets up for a clean getaway.

“When we landed,” Schmitz said, “we threatened his former CEO to not camp members of our corporation because we would take this as an aggressive act against our alliance.

“This poor guy was very mad and we knew that he’d never apologize to Kackpappe, but that’s exactly what we asked for.”

After formal diplomatic negotiations between the two guilds, a deal was struck and Kackpappe made speed to get the hell out of there with nearly everything he owned stuffed in the trunk of his starship.

“When everything was ready, we lit ... a beacon,” Schmitz said, helping guide Kackpappe to a safe place to dock his ship. That’s where the rest of the guild was waiting to spring the trap.

“The moment he landed, a fleet of our ships was waiting for him,” Schmitz said. “We immediately disrupted his warp so he could not go anywhere and opened fire. The Teamspeak comms were very calm. He just asked why he was getting damaged.

“‘Because we are shooting you,’ I explained to him and changed my name back to Darvo Thellere [in Teamspeak]. I also invited Lunarion to our channel at this exact moment so he could witness the revenge.”

So what were Kackpappe’s final words, as his hull imploded and all his belongings were vented into space?

“Argh ***... Darvo Thellere!” Or at least that’s what Schmitz told us.

But the story doesn’t end there.

“A few days later, I had a chat with him,” Schmitz said. “He told me that he apologized for how he insulted me back in the past and that this revenge made him think about how he had behaved towards other players in the past.

“He congratulated me for being able to hold my promise and wished me good luck for my further Eve career.”

Nothing like a happy ending.

WiseSky · January 2021

delenn35 wrote: »

I just want to thank everyone for their response... I’ve read every single reply and truly do appreciate it.

I understand what you’re saying... this is the Internet, I should take responsibility... and I do. If I let this affect me to that extent then I wouldn’t be playing ESO and to me, that is inconceivable.

I know I’m dealing with the general population, I know I’m not living in a perfect world, I know I’m not going to get people to change.

My hope in posting what I did is to try... to hope, someone would maybe... maybe (?) get someone to consider that their words have an impact. Not all of us can brush things off so easily. Even starting a discussion such as this is a win for me, just to be aware.

To everyone who has been supportive or tried to understand, thank you.

To everyone who has never been exposed to depression or mental illness, then I’m happy for you and I thank you for your response as well. I hope you never have to experience what it’s like to have someone say something negative to you and then you go right ahead and ruminate over it until it practically sends you around the bend. Even something so trivial stays with you. It goes around and around in your mind until you start to believe it. I know how frustrating it must be to have to watch what you say in case you hurt someone’s feelings. It’s not like that though... it’s just trying to speak with... or approach situations with kindness and in all honesty, that’s not so hard is it?

Best of luck to you, if you are on PC Na we have a guild that is dedicated for Slow Dungeons, where people take the time to listen to all the conversations from npc and read books for dungeons. I find it easier to solo everything I can

As for mental illness and depression lots of us been there, looking back on it, its night and day, whatever works for you to get when you wish to be.

Apricate the post

Nairinhe · January 2021

Chrysa1is wrote: »

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Asking for support from the community and sharing experience doesn't belong on the forums? Since when?

And if it's awkward and uncomfortable for you, you are most welcome to ignore this thread.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn · January 2021

Nairinhe wrote: »

Chrysa1is wrote: »

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Asking for support from the community and sharing experience doesn't belong on the forums? Since when?

And if it's awkward and uncomfortable for you, you are most welcome to ignore this thread.

Thank you.

Syldras · January 2021

delenn35 wrote: »

My hope in posting what I did is to try... to hope, someone would maybe... maybe (?) get someone to consider that their words have an impact.

This is definitively valid. Nothing wrong in reminding people of that from time to time. It's a tragic thing with humans, actually: If people would just treat others the way they themselves want to be treated, politely and with due respect, it could all be so much easier.

Vorpan · January 2021

You're not stupid, OP. Your posts show not only that, but also that you have a good heart. I'm sorry that you have come across some horrible people in-game, and thank you for using your experiences to raise awareness and remind us how our words have an impact on others. You are awesome. I hope that you have better days ahead.

Ackwalan · January 2021

delenn35 wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

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Thanks for your response. I appreciate it.

I want you to know that I know I'm stupid... I'm an idiot.

However, your response of "toughen up, Buttercup" proves how you know absolutely nothing about people dealing with a mental illness.

I pray you never have to experience it for yourself, or even worse, watch someone you love go through it.

Thanks again for taking the time to respond.

You obviously didn't read what I wrote. I specifically said, I'm not saying 'toughen up'.

Klad · January 2021

Fans ask for Story mode Dungeons, ZoS says no, it's a MMO make friends.

Fans ask for more consequences for Jerks who say everything from Stupid to Swatting threats. Zos tells you to join a guild never mind that most guilds are full of (And do not tell me about your mythical guild where everyone is just swell) elitist, racist, transphobic homophobes.

What is stupid is Zenimax's refusal to offer alternatives for the huge amount of people who don't want to be berated after a long day of school or work where they are probably berated.

Do the right thing ZoS think about how many of your fans who are isolated have social anxiety major depression or other issues.

All of Tamriel for everyone, not just the school yard bullies.

Syldras · January 2021

Klad wrote: »

Zos tells you to join a guild never mind that most guilds are full of (And do not tell me about your mythical guild where everyone is just swell) elitist, racist, transphobic homophobes.

Is it really that bad? I have been in a few trading guilds and before I deactivated the guild chat (it was just distracting me too much) I've seen them talk about many things, some silly, some pueril on the level of "your mom" jokes, but nothing that I would have considered hatespeech, and I might even have a stricter definition of that than most people. I actually don't even see that often in the area chat - and if someone wrote something like that, there were always other players who intervened.

That said, being able to play completely on your own (storymode for trials, etc.) would be nice for those of us that enjoy having a peaceful, silent time alone. Some people need that after a busy day. Then again, this is a MMORPG, so we are not the people this type of game is meant to cater to. Which is legit, I think, because different things are meant for a different audience.