Spell damage is much more efficient when it comes to damage. Especially in no CP where you lose 20% from CP to all magicka sources.

Sadly, sorcerer is very much forced to run magicka due to our shield based pidgeonhole. Usually, I deem magicka the balanced middle ground. You get a bit of damage, some survivability and some sustain. Spell damage is pure damage for us. We are, sadly, no medium armor stamina builds with plenty of % weapon damage, more weapon damage just from holding a melee weapon and good weapon damage sets.

Most stat sets for spell damage are either trash or have foolish conditions or cooldowns. So building for magicka with Alfiq and bright throats results in the terrible damage sorcerer is known for, but it is much more comfortable and easy to use.

I usually ask myself this when exchanging magicka for spell damage or resistence: Without bastion, roughly 21% of the magicka you have is added to your hardened ward. Is 21% of the magicka you lose a severe hit to your shield? Maybe do not do it. You already are the squishiest class in the game. Wards, after all the nerfs, already are severely crippled and you need all you can get.

So the 8k you lose would result in roughly 1700 less shield just on 1 shield. Even more when you have 2 or more.
I would normally have 53k in no cp, but push myself down to 47k to have a lot more damage with spinners instead. A conversion I deem worthwile.

Brrrofski wrote: »

I rub like 49k max magica, 1.7k spell damage and I smash people. I run crafty, swift, engine guardian.

You don't even need much damage on a sorc really. Just all about burst timing.

Unless they run meta builds with high health or when they possess hard counter abilities against the sorcerer playstyle. Which is most of them.

Of course, against average, clueless opponents, everything works.

Dracane wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

PhoenixGrey wrote: »

Imagine actually thinking mag sorc is a pvp class in 40k health meta

but some people find way how to make 40k healt sorc with 25k heavy attack I still do not knwo how they did but it is most broken build in ESO u cant dodge roll cant block lighting staff heavy attack and even to 30k resust buidl they were able to hit 15-20K per hit


anyone know how ?

Now this is something I have read on the forum once or twice already, yet never once encountered for myself. Is it not a thing in no CP?

15-20k per hit sounds more than scary. I know that when I used a heavy attack build long ago, it maybe did 15k in total with the entire beam against squishy off balance targets, not per tick.

Also, their backbone usually is blockade of storms, which should be quite easy to sidestep. Interesing nontheless. I would like to hear more.

Ran into a sorc the other night who used streak to stun, into wall of elements, followed by a lightning heavy. The heavy did 14k damage and WoE is a large enough aoe that you can't escape it reasonably before the heavy attack ends. They were pretty much killing at will.

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

PhoenixGrey wrote: »

Imagine actually thinking mag sorc is a pvp class in 40k health meta

but some people find way how to make 40k healt sorc with 25k heavy attack I still do not knwo how they did but it is most broken build in ESO u cant dodge roll cant block lighting staff heavy attack and even to 30k resust buidl they were able to hit 15-20K per hit


anyone know how ?

Now this is something I have read on the forum once or twice already, yet never once encountered for myself. Is it not a thing in no CP?

15-20k per hit sounds more than scary. I know that when I used a heavy attack build long ago, it maybe did 15k in total with the entire beam against squishy off balance targets, not per tick.

Also, their backbone usually is blockade of storms, which should be quite easy to sidestep. Interesing nontheless. I would like to hear more.

Ran into a sorc the other night who used streak to stun, into wall of elements, followed by a lightning heavy. The heavy did 14k damage and WoE is a large enough aoe that you can't escape it reasonably before the heavy attack ends. They were pretty much killing at will.

Aren't lightning heavies purgable and blockable? You could even stun him.

Since it is considered a channelled attack you can interrupt[...] anyways.

Uhm, no?

oscarovegren wrote: »

55k or 45k magicka wont make or break a magsorc PvP build

1k spell damage = 10500 magicka

BTB + BSW front (procs from LA or crushing shock) could give you both high mag and spell damage

So then my 8k magic loss was actually not in vain since I gained just over 1k spell dmg in the trade off.

jaws343 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

PhoenixGrey wrote: »

Imagine actually thinking mag sorc is a pvp class in 40k health meta

but some people find way how to make 40k healt sorc with 25k heavy attack I still do not knwo how they did but it is most broken build in ESO u cant dodge roll cant block lighting staff heavy attack and even to 30k resust buidl they were able to hit 15-20K per hit


anyone know how ?

Now this is something I have read on the forum once or twice already, yet never once encountered for myself. Is it not a thing in no CP?

15-20k per hit sounds more than scary. I know that when I used a heavy attack build long ago, it maybe did 15k in total with the entire beam against squishy off balance targets, not per tick.

Also, their backbone usually is blockade of storms, which should be quite easy to sidestep. Interesing nontheless. I would like to hear more.

Ran into a sorc the other night who used streak to stun, into wall of elements, followed by a lightning heavy. The heavy did 14k damage and WoE is a large enough aoe that you can't escape it reasonably before the heavy attack ends. They were pretty much killing at will.

Those are the sort of builds that I love. Not to play around with, but to hear about. I enjoy seeing a good unique, inventive build that makes use of elements and abilities that might not be the default go to.