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Werewolf/Bow Light Attack speed is nasteh!

Chrysa1is
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Haven't played for a while. I noticed today that werewolf and bow light attacks are slower and it feels dreadful. Just been reading through previous patchnotes and i did not see any mention of attack speed reduction for werewolf and bow, unless i missed it. Is this a bug? Or was it intentional? If it was intentional; why?
Edited by Chrysa1is on December 19, 2020 4:38AM
  • Chrysa1is
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    Seeing as no one cares lol. Please delete this thread.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Hmm... interesting. I have noticed that too. WW & bow Light Attacks are kinda slower. Tbh. I was thinking that it is only my imagination and / or there is some lag / delay. But since you have said that too, it seems that something is off...
  • Khajiitihaswares
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    Hmm... interesting. I have noticed that too. WW & bow Light Attacks are kinda slower. Tbh. I was thinking that it is only my imagination and / or there is some lag / delay. But since you have said that too, it seems that something is off...

    They're slower. Harder to LA weave anything with WW attacks because of how clunky it is. On top this missing skill points in WW... Does not surprise me that its all broken. :/
  • Chrysa1is
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    Can someone please tell me if this is intentional? Or if it is broken? I don't know why it's so hard for people to answer. Other people must have experienced this.

    Try it. Do some bow light attack spam, and werewolf light attack spam and tell me that it doesn't feel awful and slower than before.

    Werewolf bloodmoon proc is supposed to increase light attack speed by 50%. But with this new broken werewolf issue, it attacks even slower than the non-proc'd bloodmoon light attack.



  • Jaraal
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Can someone please tell me if this is intentional? Or if it is broken? I don't know why it's so hard for people to answer. Other people must have experienced this.

    Not sure why no one wants to answer you, but they increased the light attack cooldown from 500 milliseconds to 700 milliseconds with the Markarth patch.
  • Chrysa1is
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Can someone please tell me if this is intentional? Or if it is broken? I don't know why it's so hard for people to answer. Other people must have experienced this.

    Not sure why no one wants to answer you, but they increased the light attack cooldown from 500 milliseconds to 700 milliseconds with the Markarth patch.

    Im literally testing weapons now. 2h sword attacks seem faster than before. Im able to make 14 light attacks in 10 seconds with the bow, 2h sword and dw daggers. I always thought that daggers were able to strike faster? That was an actual thing before.

    Light attacks during bloodmoon proc while in werewolf form are so irregular. There are times your proc'd light attacks do more attacks in the time frame than others. It feels nasty, sluggish and weak. It has really turned me off werewolf. Im really disappointed because I very much enjoyed using werewolf until i noticed this difference. RIP
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Im literally testing weapons now. 2h sword attacks seem faster than before. Im able to make 14 light attacks in 10 seconds with the bow, 2h sword and dw daggers. I always thought that daggers were able to strike faster? That was an actual thing before.

    Lol, they reduced 2h weapon coolown from 1000 milliseconds to 700 milliseconds. All weapon cooldowns are now 700 milliseconds.

    Part of their "standardization" vision.


    Edited by Jaraal on December 19, 2020 4:28AM
  • Chrysa1is
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Im literally testing weapons now. 2h sword attacks seem faster than before. Im able to make 14 light attacks in 10 seconds with the bow, 2h sword and dw daggers. I always thought that daggers were able to strike faster? That was an actual thing before.

    Lol, they reduced 2h weapon coolown from 1000 milliseconds to 700 milliseconds. All weapon cooldowns are now 700 milliseconds.

    Right. Not trying to nit pick here, but when i first played this game, they made a point about how different weapon types had different attack speeds because of the weight and size, and it makes sense right? It's their game, and they can do what they want and that but i think these changes are dumb.
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Im literally testing weapons now. 2h sword attacks seem faster than before. Im able to make 14 light attacks in 10 seconds with the bow, 2h sword and dw daggers. I always thought that daggers were able to strike faster? That was an actual thing before.

    Lol, they reduced 2h weapon coolown from 1000 milliseconds to 700 milliseconds. All weapon cooldowns are now 700 milliseconds.

    Right. Not trying to nit pick here, but when i first played this game, they made a point about how different weapon types had different attack speeds because of the weight and size, and it makes sense right? It's their game, and they can do what they want and that but i think these changes are dumb.

    You're not alone in your assessment. A lot of the changes they have made in the past couple of years are widely criticized. The move towards standardization and core gameplay changes to reduce server calculations to keep up with degrading server performance is driving a lot of people away from the game.


    Edited by Jaraal on December 19, 2020 4:57AM
  • Ryuvain
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    This one figured that she was imagining things. Heavy attacking with werewolf takes a century to finish.
    That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
    Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.
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    Ryuvain wrote: »
    This one figured that she was imagining things. Heavy attacking with werewolf takes a century to finish.

    Yeah by the time you land your werewolf heavy attack, your PvP opponent has already buffed, restored all their resources, and gotten your health down to 50%. Honestly don't know what they were thinking with this light/heavy attack change.
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    Its part of the lowering the ceiling and removing LA weave, ani cancel and add cast times etc plan for the casual cry crowd. Slowing the game down to a crawl is the future
  • jircris11
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Haven't played for a while. I noticed today that werewolf and bow light attacks are slower and it feels dreadful. Just been reading through previous patchnotes and i did not see any mention of attack speed reduction for werewolf and bow, unless i missed it. Is this a bug? Or was it intentional? If it was intentional; why?

    Bow light attacks do more dmg now but are slower, same with ww light attack, plus ww berserker causes bleed even on light attack, with the old attack speed I was able to stack bleeds quickly. Now it takes ever so slightly longer lol.
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Ryuvain wrote: »
    This one figured that she was imagining things. Heavy attacking with werewolf takes a century to finish.

    Yeah by the time you land your werewolf heavy attack, your PvP opponent has already buffed, restored all their resources, and gotten your health down to 50%. Honestly don't know what they were thinking with this light/heavy attack change.

    Then you are not playing ww right lol. We have tons of tools to prevent this between light attacks, it just takes some mental changes on how you play. Took me a few days but now I'm back to jumping 3-5 ppl at once again.
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  • Chrysa1is
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    jircris11 wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Ryuvain wrote: »
    This one figured that she was imagining things. Heavy attacking with werewolf takes a century to finish.

    Yeah by the time you land your werewolf heavy attack, your PvP opponent has already buffed, restored all their resources, and gotten your health down to 50%. Honestly don't know what they were thinking with this light/heavy attack change.

    Then you are not playing ww right lol. We have tons of tools to prevent this between light attacks, it just takes some mental changes on how you play. Took me a few days but now I'm back to jumping 3-5 ppl at once again.

    Bro i was standing on the spot in my house holding RT. I was making a joke about how by the time you charge your heavy attack, your opponent has done all the things i mentioned. I wasn't talking about it in a literal sense🤣
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    Probably hard to draw a bowstring with paws.
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  • Drako_Ei
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    I am going to necro this thread everytime until this gets adressed.

    The global light attack cooldown they added slowed down werewolves light attacks

    Ever noticed all pve wolves are gone? Also bloodmoon, the core set for werewolf pve dps doesnt work with the new light attack speed global cooldown.

    Used to pull 50k on dungeons, now Im doing 20k dps. Thats why I never used my werewolf again, but I literally race changed my wolf to optimize it, so... ZoS fix my character
  • Anyron
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Haven't played for a while. I noticed today that werewolf and bow light attacks are slower and it feels dreadful. Just been reading through previous patchnotes and i did not see any mention of attack speed reduction for werewolf and bow, unless i missed it. Is this a bug? Or was it intentional? If it was intentional; why?

    Try to shoot with bow yourself im quite sure the game is fast already
    Everyone isnt legolas
    Edited by Anyron on February 17, 2021 9:16AM
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    Removed
    Edited by Anyron on February 17, 2021 9:15AM
  • coop500
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    Ryuvain wrote: »
    This one figured that she was imagining things. Heavy attacking with werewolf takes a century to finish.

    I am glad I am not the only one that noticed! Everything that I normally play (bow, duel wield, werewolf) seemed slow AF now compared to when I quit.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • BXR_Lonestar
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    I just finished rounding out my Stamsorc WW and I really haven't noticed that big of a difference. It does feel a little slow, but since I didn't play a WW early on, I don't really have anything to compare it to. I can say this: my WW still pumps out a ton of damage right now so I don't have too many complaints.
  • Athan1
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    Ryuvain wrote: »
    This one figured that she was imagining things. Heavy attacking with werewolf takes a century to finish.
    My enemies are dead before my heavy attacks finish so my wolfie is always low on stamina...
    Athan Atticus Imperial Templar of Shezarr
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