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Zos should show some good faith like Pearl Abyss when your game is broken
Lab3360
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Pearl Abyss actually rewards there community when they feel like they havent lived up to the quality a game is expected to maintain.
Is there a reason Zos you cant show us some same level professionalism and just good business?
Edited by Lab3360 on December 8, 2020 7:32PM Is there a reason Zos you cant show us some same level professionalism and just good business?
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✭Pearl Abyss actually rewards there community when they feel like they havent lived up to the quality a game is expected to maintain.
Is there a reason Zos you cant show us some same level professionalism and just good business?
The answer is simple - it won't bring them any money.PS4 EU Aga_The_Grey - retired | PC EU AgaTheGreat3 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭AgaTheGreat wrote: »
I really hope thats not the case..because Pearl Abyss seems pretty well financiallyEdited by Lab3360 on December 8, 2020 7:49PM1 -
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✭It can bring increased loyalty and the sense that players are cared about/respected.
This might contribute next time a player asks themself "should I renew ESO+?"Edited by Ezhh on December 8, 2020 11:37PM3 -
rrimöykk✭✭✭✭✭ZOS is all about making money. They never give anything back even when they are supposed to.
Last month I submitted a ticket asking for my last reward of the month because it was impossible to get it due PS4 maintenance being late for 12 hours. I got a reply from a moderator telling me it wasn't their fault and they are unable to reward it. That's how greedy this company is.7 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭ZOS is all about making money. They never give anything back even when they are supposed to.
Last month I submitted a ticket asking for my last reward of the month because it was impossible to get it due PS4 maintenance being late for 12 hours. I got a reply from a moderator telling me it wasn't their fault and they are unable to reward it. That's how greedy this company is.
Wow!! I remember when they were all about doing right by there base. Now we are just cash for them? I really hope not.
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✭✭✭✭✭AgaTheGreat wrote: »
and that BDO is a joke. After all, OP would not be here if they really thought BDO was a great game.1 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭AgaTheGreat wrote: »
and that BDO is a joke. After all, OP would not be here if they really thought BDO was a great game.
OP plays both and other games as well. Never understood the fanboy stuff. People can play more than one game.
Just trying to figure out why Zos cant treat its community with the same level of respect as you say a garbage game.
That garbage game you speak of, there devs treat there playerbase with repect regarding errors. So say what you want. But you dont get that same fair treatment here. You would rather bash someone for anything just for attention or defend bad business practices for whatever reason rather than try to help your own communityEdited by Lab3360 on December 9, 2020 4:22AM9 -
Rudrani✭✭✭✭✭Pearl Abyss actually rewards there community when they feel like they havent lived up to the quality a game is expected to maintain.
Is there a reason Zos you cant show us some same level professionalism and just good business?
Yeah, I made a more longwinded post saying the exact same thing a week-ish ago.1 -
Eedat✭✭✭✭✭Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.3
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.4 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Pearl Abyss actually rewards there community when they feel like they havent lived up to the quality a game is expected to maintain.
Is there a reason Zos you cant show us some same level professionalism and just good business?
Yeah, I made a more longwinded post saying the exact same thing a week-ish ago.
Listening to party priority notification go off all day, area chat self auto spamming every second, blue screen every 40mins, game freeze, bosses glitching during dungeons and trials dnf. Running on top of mounts, de-synchs, cyrodiil lag monster, random load screens, over priced crown store, I could go on too.
Not a single recompense2 -
Eedat✭✭✭✭✭Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
No it isn't. Pearl Abyss bends it's players over with their business model then people cheer when they get thrown some scraps. It's so bizarre. The entire game is set up to funnel you into cash shop purchases. I'd rather have a dev that treats me fairly most of the time than one who screws you constantly but throws you a treat occasionally. The whole picture is vastly more important than focusing on one specific thing.1 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
No it isn't. Pearl Abyss bends it's players over with their business model then people cheer when they get thrown some scraps. It's so bizarre. The entire game is set up to funnel you into cash shop purchases. I'd rather have a dev that treats me fairly most of the time than one who screws you constantly but throws you a treat occasionally. The whole picture is vastly more important than focusing on one specific thing.
Same with Zos minus scraps.
Lets not forget Fallout 76.Edited by Lab3360 on December 9, 2020 7:13AM1 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
No it isn't. Pearl Abyss bends it's players over with their business model then people cheer when they get thrown some scraps. It's so bizarre. The entire game is set up to funnel you into cash shop purchases. I'd rather have a dev that treats me fairly most of the time than one who screws you constantly but throws you a treat occasionally. The whole picture is vastly more important than focusing on one specific thing.
Same with Eso minus scraps
Like Hel.. Having played both games, I'll say that ESO is far less greedy.. you don't see p2w items in the crown store1 -
Eedat✭✭✭✭✭Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
No it isn't. Pearl Abyss bends it's players over with their business model then people cheer when they get thrown some scraps. It's so bizarre. The entire game is set up to funnel you into cash shop purchases. I'd rather have a dev that treats me fairly most of the time than one who screws you constantly but throws you a treat occasionally. The whole picture is vastly more important than focusing on one specific thing.
Same with Eso minus scraps
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about lol. ESO isn't even on the same planet as BDO when it comes to pay2win
(Edit: typo)Edited by Eedat on December 9, 2020 7:15AM0 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
No it isn't. Pearl Abyss bends it's players over with their business model then people cheer when they get thrown some scraps. It's so bizarre. The entire game is set up to funnel you into cash shop purchases. I'd rather have a dev that treats me fairly most of the time than one who screws you constantly but throws you a treat occasionally. The whole picture is vastly more important than focusing on one specific thing.
Same with Eso minus scraps
Like Hel.. Having played both games, I'll say that ESO is far less greedy.. you don't see p2w items in the crown store
Fallout 76 is possibly the slimmest cash grab in the history of gaming.1 -
Eedat✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
No it isn't. Pearl Abyss bends it's players over with their business model then people cheer when they get thrown some scraps. It's so bizarre. The entire game is set up to funnel you into cash shop purchases. I'd rather have a dev that treats me fairly most of the time than one who screws you constantly but throws you a treat occasionally. The whole picture is vastly more important than focusing on one specific thing.
Same with Eso minus scraps
Like Hel.. Having played both games, I'll say that ESO is far less greedy.. you don't see p2w items in the crown store
Fallout 76 is possibly the slimmest cash grab in the history of gaming.
"I'll say that ESO is far less greedy"
"Fallout 76"
Dude what?0 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
No it isn't. Pearl Abyss bends it's players over with their business model then people cheer when they get thrown some scraps. It's so bizarre. The entire game is set up to funnel you into cash shop purchases. I'd rather have a dev that treats me fairly most of the time than one who screws you constantly but throws you a treat occasionally. The whole picture is vastly more important than focusing on one specific thing.
Same with Eso minus scraps
Like Hel.. Having played both games, I'll say that ESO is far less greedy.. you don't see p2w items in the crown store
Fallout 76 is possibly the slimmest cash grab in the history of gaming.
"I'll say that ESO is far less greedy"
"Fallout 76"
Dude what?
Really? Where you been? Thats not even up for debate.1 -
Eedat✭✭✭✭✭Really? Where you been? Thats not even up for debate.
We are talking about ESO and in a desperate attempt to make BDO sound less pay2win, you bring up a completely different game that has exactly zero relevancy to ESO being pay2win or not. Here's what i can do. I can simply not buy the trainwreck that is Fallout 76 and it will have absolutely zero impact on my ESO experience. Here's what you cant do. Escape the pay2win that Pearl Abyss brings to all of its games, including BDO.
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Really? Where you been? Thats not even up for debate.
We are talking about ESO and in a desperate attempt to make BDO sound less pay2win, you bring up a completely different game that has exactly zero relevancy to ESO being pay2win or not. Here's what i can do. I can simply not buy the trainwreck that is Fallout 76 and it will have absolutely zero impact on my ESO experience. Here's what you cant do. Escape the pay2win that Pearl Abyss brings to all of its games, including BDO.
You argue that
"Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao"
I countered with
"Zos is even worse with its Fallout 76"
Hell, Zos holds the record for slimmy2 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭I like both game BDO and ESO. I spend nothing in BDO pearl shop...I play the game just fine without spending a dime in pearl shopEdited by Lab3360 on December 9, 2020 10:08AM1
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✭Really? Where you been? Thats not even up for debate.
We are talking about ESO and in a desperate attempt to make BDO sound less pay2win, you bring up a completely different game that has exactly zero relevancy to ESO being pay2win or not. Here's what i can do. I can simply not buy the trainwreck that is Fallout 76 and it will have absolutely zero impact on my ESO experience. Here's what you cant do. Escape the pay2win that Pearl Abyss brings to all of its games, including BDO.
You argue that
"Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao"
I countered with
"Zos is even worse with its Fallout 76"
Hell, Zos holds the record for slimmy
ZOS has nothing to do with Fallout 76. That's Bethesda. The developer and publisher are owned by the parent company Zenimax Media but blaming ZOS for F76 is wrong.0 -
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✭✭✭EvilAutoTech wrote: »Really? Where you been? Thats not even up for debate.
We are talking about ESO and in a desperate attempt to make BDO sound less pay2win, you bring up a completely different game that has exactly zero relevancy to ESO being pay2win or not. Here's what i can do. I can simply not buy the trainwreck that is Fallout 76 and it will have absolutely zero impact on my ESO experience. Here's what you cant do. Escape the pay2win that Pearl Abyss brings to all of its games, including BDO.
You argue that
"Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao"
I countered with
"Zos is even worse with its Fallout 76"
Hell, Zos holds the record for slimmy
ZOS has nothing to do with Fallout 76. That's Bethesda. The developer and publisher are owned by the parent company Zenimax Media but blaming ZOS for F76 is wrong.
And ZOS controls the purse strings.0 -
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✭✭✭EvilAutoTech wrote: »Really? Where you been? Thats not even up for debate.
We are talking about ESO and in a desperate attempt to make BDO sound less pay2win, you bring up a completely different game that has exactly zero relevancy to ESO being pay2win or not. Here's what i can do. I can simply not buy the trainwreck that is Fallout 76 and it will have absolutely zero impact on my ESO experience. Here's what you cant do. Escape the pay2win that Pearl Abyss brings to all of its games, including BDO.
You argue that
"Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao"
I countered with
"Zos is even worse with its Fallout 76"
Hell, Zos holds the record for slimmy
ZOS has nothing to do with Fallout 76. That's Bethesda. The developer and publisher are owned by the parent company Zenimax Media but blaming ZOS for F76 is wrong.
And ZOS controls the purse strings.
Zenimax Media does... is the point I believe he was making. Zenimax Online Studios or ZOS is a subsidiary of Zenimax Media.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The devs and support team would rather the game work well then not. But they’re not allowed to prioritize it. Quarterly, monetized content releases were committed to the shareholders and showrunners, and that’s the priority.
It’s a business model that doesn’t give room for focusing on fixing or stabilizing the game. Instead, those tasks are given to a few team members, in addition to their other duties, whose work isn’t prioritized or resourced appropriately.
This week they will make announcements about new upcoming content. You’ll be able to see clearly what the devs spend their time on. That same team is also already working on the release coming after the one they’ll announce. That’s what’s important to them, not fixing the existing content that you already paid for.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche0 -
TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭The only 'good faith gesture' most would require is to simply fix the bugs they say they are working on fixing. Actually fix them, not distract from their coding and greed issues by trying to claim that things aren't working because players have the audacity to use the skills that have been in game since inception.0
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✭✭✭✭✭Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
Yeah, but that's because they are great at fleecing players for all they are worth.
They started as a B2P game, then six months in introduced an optional subscription, then they introduced other temporary perks that you can buy, so now if you want to play with all perks, you have to buy 4 separate items, one of them monthly and 2 bi-weekly.
Meanwhile, ZOS gives you crowns for your ESO+ subscription.
I play both, but I don't think you can just hone in to one aspect like that without looking at the larger picture.The Moot Councillor0 -
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✭Is this a joke? Pearl Abyss is one of the slimiest, pay2win devs out there outside of the mobile market lmao. "Good faith like Pearl Abyss" what in the hell am I reading? You think the crown store is bad? Try BDO. "Cosmetic" (wink wink) costumes give bonuses. Non-combat pets give bonuses. Pay2win for crons and valks to skip the atrocious gear grind. Pay2win your life skills. Pay2win the correct skills on your mounts. Pay2win a camp to grind more efficiently. Pay2win literally any aspect of the game. BDO is a beautiful game but Pearl Abyss is one of the greasiest devs out there. Anything that has that name attached to it becomes massively pay2win.
They still reward there community when there is a dip or total loss of quality in the game. Which the only point that counts considering this thread.
They're giving handouts when the money flow stops. It's like receiving a "free" token for something you already paid for. And honestly BDO is more of a mess than ESO.1 -
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