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Official Discussion Thread for "Rule Cyrodiil with the New Akaviri Potentate Crown Crate Items"

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This is the official discussion thread for the "Rule Cyrodiil with the New Akaviri Potentate Crown Crate Items" blog article.

Dress like the tyrants of old with items from the new Akaviri Potentate Crown Crates, coming soon to the in-game Crown Store!

Here's a full list of all the rewards contained in Akaviri Potentate Crown Crates:

Radiant Apex Rewards:
  • Potentate Cloudracer Courser
  • Potentate Halcyon Senche
  • Potentate Aphotic Wolf

Apex Rewards:
  • Akaviri Potentate Bear
  • Akaviri Potentate Camel
  • Akaviri Potentate Guar
  • Akaviri Potentate Charger
  • Akaviri Potentate Sabre Cat
  • Akaviri Potentate Wolf

Legendary Rewards:
  • Dungeon Explorer
  • Harboursworn Occultist
  • Dwarven Work Lamp, Powered Floor
  • Dwarven Beam Emitter, Medium
  • Dwarven Orrery, Scholastic
  • Floral Tattoo Shorn Camel
  • Helkarn Wolf
  • Snowy Sabre Cat
  • Ambergill Guar
  • Daggerfall Dapple Horse
  • Akaviri Potentate Helm
  • Potentate Smiling Viper Helm
  • Potentate Scaled Dragon Helm
  • Dusky Guarhide
  • Red Diamond Guardian

Epic Rewards:
  • Lambent Guar Body Markings
  • Bardic Tavern-Singer's Dress
  • Karthwatch Banner
  • Morthal Banner
  • Solitude Banner
  • Boozy Boot
  • Lambent Guar Face Markings
  • Unruly Bangs
  • Campfire Kit
  • Temporary Candlefly Lantern
  • Helkarn Wolf Pup
  • Druadach Mountain Dog
  • Dusklight Lunar Moth
  • Ghostly Housecat
  • Tawny Lambent Guar

Superior Rewards:
  • Anthor's Shadow Crown
  • Dawn's Eye Crown
  • Eye of Shalidor Body Markings
  • Glenmoril Wyrd Body Markings
  • Riften Rogue Body Markings
  • Eye of Shalidor Face Markings
  • Glenmoril Wyrd Face Markings
  • Riften Rogue Face Markings
  • Snowy Sabre Cat Cub
  • Karthwasten Silver Boar
  • Mara's Blush Butterfly
  • Orcrest Jerboa
  • Sable Tenmar Stray
  • Akaviri Potentate Cuirass
  • Akaviri Potentate Sabatons
  • Akaviri Potentate Gauntlets
  • Akaviri Potentate Greaves
  • Akaviri Potentate Pauldrons
  • Akaviri Potentate Girdle
Edited by ZOS_SamL on December 8, 2020 9:19PM
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  • VaranisArano
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    Minor typo: the list is for the Akaviri Potentate Crown Crates, not Sovngarde.
    Edited by VaranisArano on December 8, 2020 4:32PM
  • TiaFrye
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    Thank you for finally blessing us with this hairstyle :3
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  • tomofhyrule
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    A new hairstyle! And one I've been waiting for!

    Really want to see Short Mussed Wave, but I know Unruly Bangs was in the same boat of 'made available on PTS but never officially released.' Hopefully that one's coming soon.

    Otherwise, at least there's one day-one purchase for me.
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    Didn't expect them this soon. Guess I should have.
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    No veya hair :/
    Add Veyas hair for us players to use!
  • Mix
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    What is "Dusky Guarhide"?
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    Campfire kit? Now what could that be?

    Does this one feel a few twitch gems rattling in her backpack?

    Otherwise not really anything that makes this one wiggle her whiskers in delight.

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  • B0SSzombie
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    Mix wrote: »
    What is "Dusky Guarhide"?

    A skin that matches the Lambent Guar.

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    Gives your character dark skin like that with the glowing yellow markings.
    Edited by B0SSzombie on December 8, 2020 6:44PM
  • Alphawolf01A
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    B0SSzombie wrote: »
    Mix wrote: »
    What is "Dusky Guarhide"?

    A skin that matches the Lambent Guar.

    v7igdzcpmhss.jpg

    Gives your character dark skin like that with the glowing yellow markings.

    That's not it. There is a "Lambent Guar Body Markings" that is listed also, the Dusky Guarhide is something else.
  • Veesk
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    B0SSzombie wrote: »
    Mix wrote: »
    What is "Dusky Guarhide"?

    A skin that matches the Lambent Guar.

    v7igdzcpmhss.jpg

    Gives your character dark skin like that with the glowing yellow markings.

    That's not it. There is a "Lambent Guar Body Markings" that is listed also, the Dusky Guarhide is something else.

    It was datamined by ESO Model Viewer, they found a pet, mount, face and body markings plus a skin that all match.
  • Araneae6537
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    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
  • B0SSzombie
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    B0SSzombie wrote: »
    Mix wrote: »
    What is "Dusky Guarhide"?

    A skin that matches the Lambent Guar.

    v7igdzcpmhss.jpg

    Gives your character dark skin like that with the glowing yellow markings.

    That's not it. There is a "Lambent Guar Body Markings" that is listed also, the Dusky Guarhide is something else.

    No, bud, that really is it:

    http://esolog.uesp.net/viewlog.php?action=view&record=collectibles&id=8225
  • VaranisArano
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    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?

    The Akaviri Potentate wound up in charge of Cyrodiil for a while, after the Akaviri invasion of Tamriel in the 1st era and the end of the Reman Dynasty.
  • bluebird
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    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period. ESO, dealing with the fallout from the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion is in this Interregnum period too, which is before Talos takes the throne.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.
    Edited by bluebird on December 8, 2020 11:06PM
  • Teridax941
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    Campfire kit? Now what could that be?

    I believe it is a new memento:
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  • VaranisArano
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    bluebird wrote: »
    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.

    Slight correction.

    The end of the Akaviri Potentate marks the beginning of the Interregnum, with the assassination of the potentate and his heirs by the Morag Tong in 2E 430. The Akaviri in Hakoshae, Elsweyr left Cyrodiil following this event.
    There's still an "Empire" during this era, but its a rump state limited to Cyrodiil's heartland and prone to unstable dynasties and various warlords trying to seize control. This is the region where the Longhouse Emperors rule for three decades before Varen Aquilarios rebels in 2E 577. ESO starts in 2E 582.
    The Interregnum only ends when Tiber Septim starts the Third Empire in 2E 854.

    (There is another, non-related Akaviri invasion that happened in 2E 572 and provides some of the impetus for the Dunmer-Nord-Argonian alliance of the Ebonheart Pact.)

    My suspicion is that these Akaviri Potentate crates draw on the Akaviri influence on Cyrodiil during the Reman Dynasty and the Potentate time periods. It'll be interesting to see if ZOS brings this influence out in the upcoming Cyrodiil areas, or if they choose to take an approach that's more faithful to TES IV Oblivion. That game happens in 3E 433, and there's very little Akaviri influence in most areas of the game. We'll see, I guess.
  • bluebird
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    bluebird wrote: »
    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.
    Slight correction.

    The end of the Akaviri Potentate marks the beginning of the Interregnum, with the assassination of the potentate and his heirs by the Morag Tong in 2E 430. The Akaviri in Hakoshae, Elsweyr left Cyrodiil following this event.
    There's still an "Empire" during this era, but its a rump state limited to Cyrodiil's heartland and prone to unstable dynasties and various warlords trying to seize control. This is the region where the Longhouse Emperors rule for three decades before Varen Aquilarios rebels in 2E 577. ESO starts in 2E 582.
    The Interregnum only ends when Tiber Septim starts the Third Empire in 2E 854.

    (There is another, non-related Akaviri invasion that happened in 2E 572 and provides some of the impetus for the Dunmer-Nord-Argonian alliance of the Ebonheart Pact.)

    My suspicion is that these Akaviri Potentate crates draw on the Akaviri influence on Cyrodiil during the Reman Dynasty and the Potentate time periods. It'll be interesting to see if ZOS brings this influence out in the upcoming Cyrodiil areas, or if they choose to take an approach that's more faithful to TES IV Oblivion. That game happens in 3E 433, and there's very little Akaviri influence in most areas of the game. We'll see, I guess.
    Don't see how that's a correction tbh. I also said that the Potentates were before the Interregnum which is the period we are currently in, before Talos takes the throne. So I see your comment more as a longer version of 'I agree' than a correction :smiley:
  • seecodenotgames
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    I think they were referring to the fact you mentioned the events happened before the interregnum and after Varen's Rebellion. Varen's rebellion against the longhouse emperors happened only a few years before the events of ESO, but the interregnum started a few hundred years ago.
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  • bluebird
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    I think they were referring to the fact you mentioned the events happened before the interregnum and after Varen's Rebellion. Varen's rebellion against the longhouse emperors happened only a few years before the events of ESO, but the interregnum started a few hundred years ago.
    Ooh, I'll edit it then. It was supposed to imply 'The Potentates were before the interregnum. And the Interregnum is what we are currently in.' Still, the only way to misread that is if someone believes that the Longhouse Emperors and Varen were Reman and pre-Potentate which is pretty absurd. But sorry, I guess my punctuation there was confusing, I'm not a native speaker, I'll edit it.
  • VaranisArano
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    bluebird wrote: »
    bluebird wrote: »
    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.
    Slight correction.

    The end of the Akaviri Potentate marks the beginning of the Interregnum, with the assassination of the potentate and his heirs by the Morag Tong in 2E 430. The Akaviri in Hakoshae, Elsweyr left Cyrodiil following this event.
    There's still an "Empire" during this era, but its a rump state limited to Cyrodiil's heartland and prone to unstable dynasties and various warlords trying to seize control. This is the region where the Longhouse Emperors rule for three decades before Varen Aquilarios rebels in 2E 577. ESO starts in 2E 582.
    The Interregnum only ends when Tiber Septim starts the Third Empire in 2E 854.

    (There is another, non-related Akaviri invasion that happened in 2E 572 and provides some of the impetus for the Dunmer-Nord-Argonian alliance of the Ebonheart Pact.)

    My suspicion is that these Akaviri Potentate crates draw on the Akaviri influence on Cyrodiil during the Reman Dynasty and the Potentate time periods. It'll be interesting to see if ZOS brings this influence out in the upcoming Cyrodiil areas, or if they choose to take an approach that's more faithful to TES IV Oblivion. That game happens in 3E 433, and there's very little Akaviri influence in most areas of the game. We'll see, I guess.
    Don't see how that's a correction tbh. I also said that the Potentates were before the Interregnum which is the period we are currently in, before Talos takes the throne. So I see your comment more as a longer version of 'I agree' than a correction :smiley:

    The correction was about the "This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion." That's the portion that confused me and I felt merited some clarification of the timeline.

    The Interregnum runs from the Potentate's end until Tiber Septim's rule begins. The Longhouse Emperors and Varen are in the middle, more or less, of the Interregnum.

    So the Akaviri influence in Cyrodiil under the Potentate is considerably before Varen or the Longhouse Emperors, which includes the events referenced in the Hakoshae questline as the supposed descendents of the last Potentate's heir flee Cyrodiil.

    If there was something else you were referencing as happening after Varen, sorry, I've missed it.
    Edited by VaranisArano on December 8, 2020 11:37PM
  • bluebird
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    bluebird wrote: »
    bluebird wrote: »
    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.
    Slight correction.

    The end of the Akaviri Potentate marks the beginning of the Interregnum, with the assassination of the potentate and his heirs by the Morag Tong in 2E 430. The Akaviri in Hakoshae, Elsweyr left Cyrodiil following this event.
    There's still an "Empire" during this era, but its a rump state limited to Cyrodiil's heartland and prone to unstable dynasties and various warlords trying to seize control. This is the region where the Longhouse Emperors rule for three decades before Varen Aquilarios rebels in 2E 577. ESO starts in 2E 582.
    The Interregnum only ends when Tiber Septim starts the Third Empire in 2E 854.

    (There is another, non-related Akaviri invasion that happened in 2E 572 and provides some of the impetus for the Dunmer-Nord-Argonian alliance of the Ebonheart Pact.)

    My suspicion is that these Akaviri Potentate crates draw on the Akaviri influence on Cyrodiil during the Reman Dynasty and the Potentate time periods. It'll be interesting to see if ZOS brings this influence out in the upcoming Cyrodiil areas, or if they choose to take an approach that's more faithful to TES IV Oblivion. That game happens in 3E 433, and there's very little Akaviri influence in most areas of the game. We'll see, I guess.
    Don't see how that's a correction tbh. I also said that the Potentates were before the Interregnum which is the period we are currently in, before Talos takes the throne. So I see your comment more as a longer version of 'I agree' than a correction :smiley:
    The correction was about the "This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion. That's the portion that confused me and I felt merited some clarification of the timeline.

    The Interregnum runs from the Potentate's end until Tiber Septim's rule begins. The Longhouse Emperors and Varen are in the middle, more or less, of the Interregnum.

    So the Akaviri influence in Cyrodiil under the Potentate is considerably before Varen or the Longhouse Emperors, which includes the events referenced in the Hakoshae questline.
    I edited my punctuation (the parenthesis was probably confusing there), as the 'before Talos, after Longhouse Emperors and Varen' was meant to apply to 'which is what we are in' that came directly before it. However, my comment as a whole made it clear that the Potentates were an earlier, Reman and post-Reman, but pre-Interregnum period. I also talked about the Akaviri-Cyrodilic connection would 'go back' in time if they chose to take it, and I mentioned the Versidue-Shaie quest in Elsweyr, and the game is clearly post-Varen as it's a major plotpoint...so I thought there were enough signs there that I was correct on the timeline, rather than suggesting that the Potentates are closer to us than Varen was. :smiley:

    I'll assume your comment was meant to be friendly rather than an 'ackchully' nitpicking, it just seemed strange to reiterate what I said when you already posted a comment before me with no initial inclination for detail, and only copy-pasted data 'in correction' to me. That said, I did change that line to prevent further confusion, and there is probably too much in this Crown Crate thread about the Akaviri question and the lecture that my use of a parenthesis spawned lol.
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    bluebird wrote: »
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    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.
    Slight correction.

    The end of the Akaviri Potentate marks the beginning of the Interregnum, with the assassination of the potentate and his heirs by the Morag Tong in 2E 430. The Akaviri in Hakoshae, Elsweyr left Cyrodiil following this event.
    There's still an "Empire" during this era, but its a rump state limited to Cyrodiil's heartland and prone to unstable dynasties and various warlords trying to seize control. This is the region where the Longhouse Emperors rule for three decades before Varen Aquilarios rebels in 2E 577. ESO starts in 2E 582.
    The Interregnum only ends when Tiber Septim starts the Third Empire in 2E 854.

    (There is another, non-related Akaviri invasion that happened in 2E 572 and provides some of the impetus for the Dunmer-Nord-Argonian alliance of the Ebonheart Pact.)

    My suspicion is that these Akaviri Potentate crates draw on the Akaviri influence on Cyrodiil during the Reman Dynasty and the Potentate time periods. It'll be interesting to see if ZOS brings this influence out in the upcoming Cyrodiil areas, or if they choose to take an approach that's more faithful to TES IV Oblivion. That game happens in 3E 433, and there's very little Akaviri influence in most areas of the game. We'll see, I guess.
    Don't see how that's a correction tbh. I also said that the Potentates were before the Interregnum which is the period we are currently in, before Talos takes the throne. So I see your comment more as a longer version of 'I agree' than a correction :smiley:
    The correction was about the "This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion. That's the portion that confused me and I felt merited some clarification of the timeline.

    The Interregnum runs from the Potentate's end until Tiber Septim's rule begins. The Longhouse Emperors and Varen are in the middle, more or less, of the Interregnum.

    So the Akaviri influence in Cyrodiil under the Potentate is considerably before Varen or the Longhouse Emperors, which includes the events referenced in the Hakoshae questline.
    I edited my punctuation (the parenthesis was probably confusing there), as the 'before Talos, after Longhouse Emperors and Varen' was meant to apply to 'which is what we are in' that came directly before it. However, my comment as a whole made it clear that the Potentates were an earlier, Reman and post-Reman, but pre-Interregnum period. I also talked about the Akaviri-Cyrodilic connection would 'go back' in time if they chose to take it, and I mentioned the Versidue-Shaie quest in Elsweyr, and the game is clearly post-Varen as it's a major plotpoint...so I thought there were enough signs there that I was correct on the timeline, rather than suggesting that the Potentates are closer to us than Varen was. :smiley:

    I'll assume your comment was meant to be friendly rather than an 'ackchully' nitpicking, it just seemed strange to reiterate what I said when you already posted a comment before me with no initial inclination for detail, and only copy-pasted data 'in correction' to me. That said, I did change that line to prevent further confusion, and there is probably too much in this Crown Crate thread about the Akaviri question and the lecture that my use of a parenthesis spawned lol.

    Sure. As I said, it was a slight correction, perhaps even confusion on my part, and we seem to be mostly in agreement on the source of the Akaviri-Imperial connection. So hopefully its all friendly.

    I do like your idea of Samurai & Legionnaires. :)
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    bluebird wrote: »
    bluebird wrote: »
    bluebird wrote: »
    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.
    Slight correction.

    The end of the Akaviri Potentate marks the beginning of the Interregnum, with the assassination of the potentate and his heirs by the Morag Tong in 2E 430. The Akaviri in Hakoshae, Elsweyr left Cyrodiil following this event.
    There's still an "Empire" during this era, but its a rump state limited to Cyrodiil's heartland and prone to unstable dynasties and various warlords trying to seize control. This is the region where the Longhouse Emperors rule for three decades before Varen Aquilarios rebels in 2E 577. ESO starts in 2E 582.
    The Interregnum only ends when Tiber Septim starts the Third Empire in 2E 854.

    (There is another, non-related Akaviri invasion that happened in 2E 572 and provides some of the impetus for the Dunmer-Nord-Argonian alliance of the Ebonheart Pact.)

    My suspicion is that these Akaviri Potentate crates draw on the Akaviri influence on Cyrodiil during the Reman Dynasty and the Potentate time periods. It'll be interesting to see if ZOS brings this influence out in the upcoming Cyrodiil areas, or if they choose to take an approach that's more faithful to TES IV Oblivion. That game happens in 3E 433, and there's very little Akaviri influence in most areas of the game. We'll see, I guess.
    Don't see how that's a correction tbh. I also said that the Potentates were before the Interregnum which is the period we are currently in, before Talos takes the throne. So I see your comment more as a longer version of 'I agree' than a correction :smiley:
    The correction was about the "This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion. That's the portion that confused me and I felt merited some clarification of the timeline.

    The Interregnum runs from the Potentate's end until Tiber Septim's rule begins. The Longhouse Emperors and Varen are in the middle, more or less, of the Interregnum.

    So the Akaviri influence in Cyrodiil under the Potentate is considerably before Varen or the Longhouse Emperors, which includes the events referenced in the Hakoshae questline.
    I edited my punctuation (the parenthesis was probably confusing there), as the 'before Talos, after Longhouse Emperors and Varen' was meant to apply to 'which is what we are in' that came directly before it. However, my comment as a whole made it clear that the Potentates were an earlier, Reman and post-Reman, but pre-Interregnum period. I also talked about the Akaviri-Cyrodilic connection would 'go back' in time if they chose to take it, and I mentioned the Versidue-Shaie quest in Elsweyr, and the game is clearly post-Varen as it's a major plotpoint...so I thought there were enough signs there that I was correct on the timeline, rather than suggesting that the Potentates are closer to us than Varen was. :smiley:

    I'll assume your comment was meant to be friendly rather than an 'ackchully' nitpicking, it just seemed strange to reiterate what I said when you already posted a comment before me with no initial inclination for detail, and only copy-pasted data 'in correction' to me. That said, I did change that line to prevent further confusion, and there is probably too much in this Crown Crate thread about the Akaviri question and the lecture that my use of a parenthesis spawned lol.
    Sure. As I said, it was a slight correction, perhaps even confusion on my part, and we seem to be mostly in agreement on the source of the Akaviri-Imperial connection. So hopefully its all friendly.
    Sure. And yeah, it should definitely have been a colon or a comma rather than parenthesis there, like 'This was before the Interregnum which is where we are: before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's Rebellion'. But the rest of my comment made it explicitly clear that the Potentates were a Reman thing and a post-Reman takeover, not a post-Varen one. And since ESO openly takes place after Varen's rebellion and before Talos, I thought it would be clear that it referred to 'where we are'.

    So it seemed strange that you were suddenly eager to go into lecturing mode with copy-pasted dates from the Elder Scrolls Pages wiki, and repeated the same thing twice now, when you only commented a single sentence in answer earlier, without going into detail. This made it seem like there was little original interest in the topic on your part, but more willingness to go into mansplaining mode: way more effort to nitpick others than to actually answer the question yourself, and more effort than the small correction warranted.

    For example, Varen rebelled before 2E 577 not in that year as you claimed, and the Longhouse Emperors were in power for over four decades, not three decades. But you don't see people writing paragraphs to correct you, because it's an inconsequential error and we all knew what your comment meant. :wink: Tone is really hard to read from text of course, and we both said the same things 90%, I just thought this tangent was kinda unnecessary.
    Edited by bluebird on December 9, 2020 4:10AM
  • winterscrolls229prerb18_ESO
    How long do you think the campfire moment will last for?

    Just trying to decide where to spend my gems.

    Like the other ones, you won't have any control while its playing right?

    Shame, or maybe not makes the decision easy.
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    bluebird wrote: »
    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.

    Slight correction.

    The end of the Akaviri Potentate marks the beginning of the Interregnum, with the assassination of the potentate and his heirs by the Morag Tong in 2E 430. The Akaviri in Hakoshae, Elsweyr left Cyrodiil following this event.
    There's still an "Empire" during this era, but its a rump state limited to Cyrodiil's heartland and prone to unstable dynasties and various warlords trying to seize control. This is the region where the Longhouse Emperors rule for three decades before Varen Aquilarios rebels in 2E 577. ESO starts in 2E 582.
    The Interregnum only ends when Tiber Septim starts the Third Empire in 2E 854.

    (There is another, non-related Akaviri invasion that happened in 2E 572 and provides some of the impetus for the Dunmer-Nord-Argonian alliance of the Ebonheart Pact.)

    My suspicion is that these Akaviri Potentate crates draw on the Akaviri influence on Cyrodiil during the Reman Dynasty and the Potentate time periods. It'll be interesting to see if ZOS brings this influence out in the upcoming Cyrodiil areas, or if they choose to take an approach that's more faithful to TES IV Oblivion. That game happens in 3E 433, and there's very little Akaviri influence in most areas of the game. We'll see, I guess.

    There's also that time when remnants of the Kamal invasion and the Tsaesci in Rimmen try to reestablish the Empire, which happened during the interregnum (and after the Kamal invasion, obviously).

    The khajiit granted them asylum in the hills and steppes of northwestern Elsweyr, where they dwelt in relative seclusion until remnants of the Dir-Kamal resurfaced in Cyrodiil, seizing the Throne from Attrebus' successors. The Rimmen (literally, the "Rim Men," as the khajiit called them) joined their brothers to try to rebuild the Empire.

    This is unlikely to have happened already, with the Tsaesci in Rimmen still in seclusion, and there were only 4 years between the end of the Kamal invasion (CE572) and Euraxia's Frostfall Coup (CE576), during which the Khajiit were apparently still in control of Rimmen.

    So this should happen some time between now and CE812 when Rimmen officially secedes from Elsweyr.
    Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
    Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.
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    bluebird wrote: »
    bluebird wrote: »
    bluebird wrote: »
    bluebird wrote: »
    I thought the Roman Legionary style (as well as much else to do with Ancient Rome) was part of the Imperial aesthetic. Was there already precedent in ESO for it being Akavari in origin with the Imperials either descended from or influenced by the Akavari?
    I feel like this 'Samurai and Legionaries' aesthetic is ESO's take on the popular pairings like 'Ninjas and Pirates' or 'Knights and Vikings' :tongue:

    That said, the Akaviri had an influence on Cyrodilic culture and politics during the Reman dynasty, with several Tsaesci Potentates, notably Versidue-Shaie who seized power from the Reman line, and whose ghost featured in a quest in Elsweyr. This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion.

    So, unless ESO are planning on reviving Akaviri content - going to Akavir might be too ballsy and ambitious for them tbh, lore-wise and scale-wise too - it is likely that we will get a Cyrodiil Chapter next year which might focus on how the Empire cleans itself up after the whole mess. I'd expect that to go in the Colovian direction though, so I think these Akaviri-Cyrodilic fusion designs are just for the Crates.
    Slight correction.

    The end of the Akaviri Potentate marks the beginning of the Interregnum, with the assassination of the potentate and his heirs by the Morag Tong in 2E 430. The Akaviri in Hakoshae, Elsweyr left Cyrodiil following this event.
    There's still an "Empire" during this era, but its a rump state limited to Cyrodiil's heartland and prone to unstable dynasties and various warlords trying to seize control. This is the region where the Longhouse Emperors rule for three decades before Varen Aquilarios rebels in 2E 577. ESO starts in 2E 582.
    The Interregnum only ends when Tiber Septim starts the Third Empire in 2E 854.

    (There is another, non-related Akaviri invasion that happened in 2E 572 and provides some of the impetus for the Dunmer-Nord-Argonian alliance of the Ebonheart Pact.)

    My suspicion is that these Akaviri Potentate crates draw on the Akaviri influence on Cyrodiil during the Reman Dynasty and the Potentate time periods. It'll be interesting to see if ZOS brings this influence out in the upcoming Cyrodiil areas, or if they choose to take an approach that's more faithful to TES IV Oblivion. That game happens in 3E 433, and there's very little Akaviri influence in most areas of the game. We'll see, I guess.
    Don't see how that's a correction tbh. I also said that the Potentates were before the Interregnum which is the period we are currently in, before Talos takes the throne. So I see your comment more as a longer version of 'I agree' than a correction :smiley:
    The correction was about the "This took place before the Interregnum period (which is what we are in) before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's rebellion. That's the portion that confused me and I felt merited some clarification of the timeline.

    The Interregnum runs from the Potentate's end until Tiber Septim's rule begins. The Longhouse Emperors and Varen are in the middle, more or less, of the Interregnum.

    So the Akaviri influence in Cyrodiil under the Potentate is considerably before Varen or the Longhouse Emperors, which includes the events referenced in the Hakoshae questline.
    I edited my punctuation (the parenthesis was probably confusing there), as the 'before Talos, after Longhouse Emperors and Varen' was meant to apply to 'which is what we are in' that came directly before it. However, my comment as a whole made it clear that the Potentates were an earlier, Reman and post-Reman, but pre-Interregnum period. I also talked about the Akaviri-Cyrodilic connection would 'go back' in time if they chose to take it, and I mentioned the Versidue-Shaie quest in Elsweyr, and the game is clearly post-Varen as it's a major plotpoint...so I thought there were enough signs there that I was correct on the timeline, rather than suggesting that the Potentates are closer to us than Varen was. :smiley:

    I'll assume your comment was meant to be friendly rather than an 'ackchully' nitpicking, it just seemed strange to reiterate what I said when you already posted a comment before me with no initial inclination for detail, and only copy-pasted data 'in correction' to me. That said, I did change that line to prevent further confusion, and there is probably too much in this Crown Crate thread about the Akaviri question and the lecture that my use of a parenthesis spawned lol.
    Sure. As I said, it was a slight correction, perhaps even confusion on my part, and we seem to be mostly in agreement on the source of the Akaviri-Imperial connection. So hopefully its all friendly.
    Sure. And yeah, it should definitely have been a colon or a comma rather than parenthesis there, like 'This was before the Interregnum which is where we are: before Talos, but after the Longhouse Emperors and Varen's Rebellion'. But the rest of my comment made it explicitly clear that the Potentates were a Reman thing and a post-Reman takeover, not a post-Varen one. And since ESO openly takes place after Varen's rebellion and before Talos, I thought it would be clear that it referred to 'where we are'.

    So it seemed strange that you were suddenly eager to go into lecturing mode with copy-pasted dates from the Elder Scrolls Pages wiki, and repeated the same thing twice now, when you only commented a single sentence in answer earlier, without going into detail. This made it seem like there was little original interest in the topic on your part, but more willingness to go into mansplaining mode: way more effort to nitpick others than to actually answer the question yourself, and more effort than the small correction warranted.

    For example, Varen rebelled before 2E 577 not in that year as you claimed, and the Longhouse Emperors were in power for over four decades, not three decades. But you don't see people writing paragraphs to correct you, because it's an inconsequential error and we all knew what your comment meant. :wink: Tone is really hard to read from text of course, and we both said the same things 90%, I just thought this tangent was kinda unnecessary.

    I have been known to be nitpicky and lecturing at times. I apologize.
    Edited by VaranisArano on December 9, 2020 1:25PM
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    B0SSzombie wrote: »
    Mix wrote: »
    What is "Dusky Guarhide"?

    A skin that matches the Lambent Guar.

    v7igdzcpmhss.jpg

    Gives your character dark skin like that with the glowing yellow markings.

    Another Argonian skin? :unamused:
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    B0SSzombie wrote: »
    Mix wrote: »
    What is "Dusky Guarhide"?

    A skin that matches the Lambent Guar.

    v7igdzcpmhss.jpg

    Gives your character dark skin like that with the glowing yellow markings.

    So you get a guar mount, non combat guar, and a skin that all match.
    I know what my shadowscale character is gonna be doing this month. :D
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    Teridax941 wrote: »
    B0SSzombie wrote: »
    Mix wrote: »
    What is "Dusky Guarhide"?

    A skin that matches the Lambent Guar.

    v7igdzcpmhss.jpg

    Gives your character dark skin like that with the glowing yellow markings.

    So you get a guar mount, non combat guar, and a skin that all match.
    I know what my shadowscale character is gonna be doing this month. :D

    I have a shadowscale already and they are already pimped. Still this is the first time I've ever seen a guar I liked the looks oh. I'll consider it.
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    Aptonoth wrote: »

    I have a shadowscale already and they are already pimped. Still this is the first time I've ever seen a guar I liked the looks oh. I'll consider it.

    Well true, mine is currently sporting the mireheart skin, for his less covert duties, but I wouldn't mind this skin for his more undercover adventures.
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