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do you find thievery rewarding?
Muttsmutt
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the thieving system was the first thing that distracted me from the main quest when i started playing- i actually found it exciting! though of course, as i leveled up and started discovering other fun things to do which felt less of a waste of time, i left the thievery behind.
i'd like to enjoy that part of the game again now; though i feel like it would be a waste of time, which wouldn't be fun for me.
if you find it rewarding- talk to me about why, maybe it'll get me more excited for it!
also, what zones do you find best to steal in?
Edited by Muttsmutt on December 4, 2020 8:02AM i'd like to enjoy that part of the game again now; though i feel like it would be a waste of time, which wouldn't be fun for me.
if you find it rewarding- talk to me about why, maybe it'll get me more excited for it!
also, what zones do you find best to steal in?
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Faiza✭✭✭✭✭I do! I think it is fun, and it's a very easy way for my low level characters to earn gold "on their own" without needing any prerequisites.
Personally, I feel like it's more of an "accomplishment" to loot something of high value from a stolen container or a chest as well. It doesn't take any craftiness to loot an a regular urn and find a nice motif or a furnishing.
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Shadow_CH✭✭✭I love it
You can make ~20k Gold a day (maxed selling slots, destroy the white items and sell green / blue). And you can find furnishings (e.g. hand mirrors in Elsweyr) or motifs (e.g. Telvanni, Hlaalu, Redoran in Vvardenfell) and many more.
If you use the ring of the wild hunt, you can move faster even when sneaking. Thats helps a lot
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
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There are no secrets.
Find out what players are willing to pay a lot for that can be stolen. While you are looking for those particular items, you will also be making millions in green, blue, and purple treasures that you can sell to the fence. Running six max Legerdemain / Thieves Guild thieves to the fence limit will get you around 120k per day in just gold from the fence. Plus you can steal furnishing plans that sell to players for over 1 million gold.4 -
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✭✭I love it
You can make ~20k Gold a day (maxed selling slots, destroy the white items and sell green / blue). And you can find furnishings (e.g. hand mirrors in Elsweyr) or motifs (e.g. Telvanni, Hlaalu, Redoran in Vvardenfell) and many more.
If you use the ring of the wild hunt, you can move faster even when sneaking. Thats helps a lot
20k a day doesn't sound like worth it to me. How long does it take you to steal all that?3 -
Muttsmutt✭✭✭✭✭I love it
You can make ~20k Gold a day (maxed selling slots, destroy the white items and sell green / blue). And you can find furnishings (e.g. hand mirrors in Elsweyr) or motifs (e.g. Telvanni, Hlaalu, Redoran in Vvardenfell) and many more.
If you use the ring of the wild hunt, you can move faster even when sneaking. Thats helps a lot
20k a day doesn't sound like worth it to me. How long does it take you to steal all that?
that's why i stopped, too.
iirc it was about an hour for me? but i might be wrong, and i also wasn't very fast.PC-EU // UNDEAD3 -
Shadow_CH✭✭✭yeah, 30 - 60 minutes depending on location / route and my mood^^
I have to say that thievery is not my "gold making machine". The 20k gold per day per char are a nice addtion when I'm looking for something else (like motifs or furnishing plans) or when I want to do something brain-afk (like others going to pick some flowers)
And I love it to sneak around, do some pickpocketing and assassinate people... maybe its that
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✭✭If its something you enjoy doing then it's ok I guess but otherwise theres faster ways to make gold.0 -
Muttsmutt✭✭✭✭✭yeah, 30 - 60 minutes depending on location / route and my mood^^
I have to say that thievery is not my "gold making machine". The 20k gold per day per char are a nice addtion when I'm looking for something else (like motifs or furnishing plans) or when I want to do something brain-afk (like others going to pick some flowers)
And I love it to sneak around, do some pickpocketing and assassinate people... maybe its that
alright, so as i'm understnading, the 20k is the "minimum" income, which depending on your luck, can be significantly greater if you find rare furnishing plans.
then yes, of course, there's the fun aspect of it, of enjoying the gameplay it has you playing.PC-EU // UNDEAD1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭yeah, 30 - 60 minutes depending on location / route and my mood^^
I have to say that thievery is not my "gold making machine". The 20k gold per day per char are a nice addtion when I'm looking for something else (like motifs or furnishing plans) or when I want to do something brain-afk (like others going to pick some flowers)
And I love it to sneak around, do some pickpocketing and assassinate people... maybe its that
alright, so as i'm understnading, the 20k is the "minimum" income, which depending on your luck, can be significantly greater if you find rare furnishing plans.
then yes, of course, there's the fun aspect of it, of enjoying the gameplay it has you playing.
That's more than I averagely get for pugging vDLC and that's essentially my only gold income... So I guess you are good
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Shadow_CH✭✭✭exactly, 20k is the minimum income if you only find stuff you sell at the fence. Everything else comes on top but thats a lot more rng-based. Don't ask me how long it took me to complete the Telvanni, Redoran and Hlaalu styles... xD0
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the secret is doing nothing else, since literally anything will give you more money.
If he made million doing this we would have earn way more doing other thing for the same time.
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Larcomar✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, general thieving no. I like the playstyle and have 2 thieves fully trained up, but I can make more cash farmign a public dungeon. or just doing writs.
The one exception to that is the heists- they're good fun, a change of pace and give some pretty nice rewards. Leaving aside the motifs, Ive gotten 4 pieces of syvarra heavy out of them the last month.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I like that it's an easy way to make money which anyone can do almost anywhere right from level 1. You don't need special gear or a specific build (the thieves guild and legerdemain skills help of course, but they're not required), you don't need to go to a specific location and you don't need a group, you can just look round any town and see what you can find.
I don't devote time to it very often now I have other options but it also works well as something to do while questing, like collecting crafting materials. Several of my characters will take the time to look around wherever they happen to be and pick up some interesting bits along their way. It's not as profitable, but it also takes basically no extra time since you're just looting containers you're passing anyway.
My main character is a khajiit and I like to imagine some of the reoccurring characters have noticed and come to accept it as part of the cost of her help, but think the end result outweighs the annoyance of little things going missing from their base of operations. (Although I have some rules for RP purposes, for example I don't rob the mages or fighters guilds on characters who are members.)PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭✭✭It's an okey was of earning money but not the best I've found.
To me Writs is no 1 when you have many characters.
Then public dungeon farming when they can drop fragments to a collectable. Usually what I do while i wait for que on my DD.
The gold drops alone are insane.
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✭Pick pocketing is very time consuming as is stealing from containers....there are many places with lots of free loot so why waste time on fencing items?
I have found green blue and purple recipes from free containers.
I also do writs and get 4, 600 gold per character. It adds up when i do my alts every day.
I also get lots of treasure maps, recipes and surveys which give me loads of ores, cloth and wood....i have made millions of gold this way...plus i do dailies and sell motifs that some are too lazy to do so i sell to them lol1 -
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Literally just killing and looting everything in a public dungeon. The best ones are those that have humanoid enemies as they carry cash, and where decent sets that sell drop. The one in malabal tor is my favorite, spinner's also drops there, the one in reapers march isn't bad for cash or you could try your luck in one of the public dungeons that drop sets that sell like deshaan, though its crowded.
The main things is to have a lot of AOE and ideally some kind of self healing though damage mechanism, and just go nuts. My magsorc did it for a while (crit surge + grothdar + overwhelming surge + aoe spells) but my temp is probably my favorite now (grothdar, overwhelming surge, thunderbug, sola barrage, jabbity jab jab jab). Though my dk is entertaining (grothdar, elfbane, inhale, flame breath etc) It's all good. Just pull everything,m as fast as you can and fill your bags. Best done in the morning when quiet, and watch for people trying to quest.
Honestly though, I find the best moneymaker is just doing writs on all my toons. Its like 4600 per toon. Its boring but between the cash, the gold tempers and the other stuff, it adds up. half a dozen tooons, you're making a million a month. Which, if you have tolog them in for the horse, isn't too bad....
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Generally speaking, yes. There are exceptions. I've sold green plans for over a million each. And there are already made furnishings you can steal that will bring over 1 million gold each. And tons of items and plans worth six figures.
Not everybody will get rich stealing. You have to know what to look for and where. And it does take time. As others have said, you can do writs on 16 characters and make decent money. But that would bore me to tears. And the folks who have the most gold in ESO are professional flippers. People who spend hours looking for underpriced items on guild traders to buy and resell for large profit.
But you say you like stealing, so yes. It can be a profitable way to have fun.2 -
Muttsmutt✭✭✭✭✭
You have to know what to look for and where.
this is what i meant when i asked you for "the secrets".
what do you look for and where?
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You have to know what to look for and where.
this is what i meant when i asked you for "the secrets".
what do you look for and where?
Go to the big trader hubs where all the expensive stuff is (or check Tamriel Trade Center website), sort by price high to low, see what is valuable, and research how to acquire it. A lot of it can be stolen. And there are some valuable things that can ONLY be stolen, and aren't available any other way.0 -
Shadow_CH✭✭✭Like the plan for Skooma Bubblers. You get them by pickpocketing drunkards and they sell very well (last moth I sold one for 240k gold)Edited by Shadow_CH on December 4, 2020 9:47PM2
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Aigym_Hlervu✭✭✭✭✭I might be the only player who thinks this way, but I find thievery shameful, dishonorful and almost the most disgraceful thing. No matter if it is a game or real life - I think the very wish to take someone's property is shameful. I've never been a member neither of the Thieves Guild nor of the Dark Brotherhood in any of the ES games and each time I see someone breaking into someone's house, stealing things sneaking behind an NPC or murdering such an NPC for no reason other than robbing and skills development, I always feel the necessity either to kill the thug or at least to call the guards. Still none of those options are provided as if the developers would have been supporting such actions. None of those thugs commit those crimes because they starve or have no means to live, or because they are forced to do it by the game quest mechanics (i.e. ordinary quests like the one that required to break into a Covenant spy's house during the EP Main Quest line) - their crimes are not the retaliation to the criminal social environment that forces them to do so. These players own lands, houses, money, weapons and titles, they are not the lowest classes of their local societies - they all do it because they want to do it, can do it, it brings them money and they like it.
I don't think that thievery should be depicted that way in the game. Yes, it is the part of this world, but I think it should have never been made that attractive to some players if not for the majority of them. Sinister desires should be fought, not encouraged, be it in a game (any game - video game, board game, chess, whatever) or IRL. At least allowing us to engage a thief or an assassin into a combat on sight without "invitation to duel" (a duel? With a thief?.. Are they serious?..) or to call the guards would be an adequate measure for those who have an overwhelming desire to steal and kill those who did nothing bad to them. It is my opinion only and no appeals to things like "Man, it's a video game, not the real life!" will change it - such appeals sound like an exuse to me, they legalize those sinister desires to those players only because unlikd IRL stealing in a video game brings no responsibility. No responsibility - no concern - pleasure. And since a sanction is the only thing that stops people from commiting a crime, an action viewed as illegal by the very rules of that fictional world (yes, to those who haven't understood it yet - I don't speak of those Elsweyr and Valenwood customs in this post), then.. I doubt we'll be able to find common grounds. Don't join the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood mates, don't be thugs - you are much better than this. None of you were born thieves and assassins and the sinister desire to act like that, it is just the product of the environment you live in that effects your consciousness, that makes it somehow attractive to you. Fight it! 1 -
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the secret is doing nothing else, since literally anything will give you more money.
If he made million doing this we would have earn way more doing other thing for the same time.
Yep!
It's exactly like saying "I made millions selling ectoplasm".
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hell no
watching paint dry does more for me...“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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✭✭I wish thief system got tweaked to be more rewarding.
I believe that 'treasure items' are not worth enough compared to the junk loot that drops from trash mobs.1 -
LannStone✭✭✭✭I don't find thievery very rewarding in itself (I can make a lot more gold elsewhere faster) but the passives from the thieves guild and dark brotherhood are very helpful to a treasure hunter (high chance of picking locks with a single hot key) and when the leads from antiquities come only from locked safeboxes (both the quick lockpick and the ability to sneak right in front of an NPC without being detected).0
