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Pack Leader levels

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Soul Shriven
Hello! I cannot seem to find an answer after googling and searching the forums - is there any difference between Pack Leader level 1 and Pack Leader level 4? All skill builders and such have the same values for the skill including the ultimate cost - is it really pointless to intentionally level Pack Leader beyond level 1?

I never had to ask before as I simply levelled the other werewolf skills which took longer to get to than Pack Leader 4 in terms of XP, but now since werewolf was reset I have to think about whether intentionally grinding the skill out is worth it... and from what I'm gathering there is no difference between Pack Leader 1 and Pack Leader 4. Any insight or help would be appreciated. Thanks!
  • Ryuvain
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    I'd like to know this too. No tooltip changes unlike berserker seem to imply it does nothing.
    That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
    Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.
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    Soul Shriven
    Bump. The Rift zone chat has suggested that it increases the damage done by the direwolves, but as far as I'm aware that scales off maximum stamina. Another suggestion has been that more Pack Leader levels affect how long one is in werewolf form, but this is not reflected in the tooltip, including with addons such as Harven's Improved menu.
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    Wish ZOS made it more clear what leveling up the ability did. Some don't even mention they get cheaper when they level up but they do. Some examples are the vampire abilities Perfect Scion, Elusive Mist, and Hypnosis.

    I did check the werewolf morph to see if it was the same case and sadly it is not. As you can probably tell I'm not a werewolf. Makes you wonder what actually does improve about it.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
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    Vevvev wrote: »
    Wish ZOS made it more clear what leveling up the ability did. Some don't even mention they get cheaper when they level up but they do. Some examples are the vampire abilities Perfect Scion, Elusive Mist, and Hypnosis.

    I did check the werewolf morph to see if it was the same case and sadly it is not. As you can probably tell I'm not a werewolf. Makes you wonder what actually does improve about it.

    Harven's Improved menu does tell you the improvements of the vampire abilities (not the case with Pack Leader), but yes this should be an in-game feature. And yes, it stays at 300 ultimate levels 1 through 4.
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    Does the duration of the morphed form change from rank 1-4? Not counting feeding, etc.
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    UntilValhalla13 wrote: »
    Does the duration of the morphed form change from rank 1-4? Not counting feeding, etc.

    Nope, dealt with that in reply #3. However, after levelling and testing, it seems true that the direwolves do more damage (no change of stats otherwise during testing), which should be reflected in the tooltip.
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