how would you handle going after every recipe in the game?

Darkspecialist · November 2020

i have one main person i want to learn everything on. but am missing out on lower level recipes because of passives ive spent..would you respec or just use alts with no points or some points in the passives for the crafting skills?

also do you buy solely from guild traders? i put a few passive points in and it was 540 gold a recipe from a chef..there was like 20 i bought.

speaking of missing out does the level of my skill lets says provisions have anything to do with me missing out on looting or stealing when it comes to getting recipes? or is it soely passive points that screw me out of that loot?

Araneae6537 · November 2020

What passives are you referring to? I am not aware of any that would prevent you from getting recipes of every tier.

I wouldn’t recommend buying recipes from chefs and brewers as a first resource, although I did at first. So many of the recipes are so common, you can get them through traders or guild members for cheap or free.

Some recipes are rewarded for completing specific quests — I’m not sure how many such there are but I’m thinking of the quests for the chef near Morkuldin in Wrothgar which rewards three unique recipes.

tmbrinks · November 2020

You can buy the recipes from a chef based on your crafting level for provisioning plus one other level (either above or below, can't remember exactly)

For the first 3 tiers, the recipes are different based on the ALLIANCE of the character. DC is different than EP which is different from AD.

You can also by all of these (usually for much less) from a guild trader as well.

Recipes that drop are actually still set up by ZONE (which was how it was before 1-Tamriel), so you can get some lower-tier recipes from base game zones

KMarble · November 2020

1. There are enough skill points in the game that allow one char to do it all. My main is maxed out on all the skills I need to engage combat, has all skills from legerdemain, thieves guild, DB, psijic, antiquarian, all crafting maxed out etc.. That said, while leveling up I had to pick and choose. If there is a way to level up everything - or even just crafting and combat - at the same time, I haven't figured it out.
2. Level and skill points do NOT affect which recipes we can find/steal. As @tmbrinks said, provisioning level does affect which recipes you can buy from NPC vendors, although I don't remember if that is tied up to how many skill points are put into provisioning.

FlopsyPrince · November 2020

tmbrinks wrote: »

You can buy the recipes from a chef based on your crafting level for provisioning plus one other level (either above or below, can't remember exactly)

For the first 3 tiers, the recipes are different based on the ALLIANCE of the character. DC is different than EP which is different from AD.

You can also by all of these (usually for much less) from a guild trader as well.

Recipes that drop are actually still set up by ZONE (which was how it was before 1-Tamriel), so you can get some lower-tier recipes from base game zones

It is 1 level below in my experience. So I never level characters more than 2 steps in provisioning until I check for new recipes.

Though I would still argue all levels should drop as the "rewards" for finishing top level writs, just as mats do.

Keeping straight which alt has which recipe is a pain, for us altoholics.

Feric51 · November 2020

KMarble wrote: »

1. There are enough skill points in the game that allow one char to do it all. My main is maxed out on all the skills I need to engage combat, has all skills from legerdemain, thieves guild, DB, psijic, antiquarian, all crafting maxed out etc.. That said, while leveling up I had to pick and choose. If there is a way to level up everything - or even just crafting and combat - at the same time, I haven't figured it out.
2. Level and skill points do NOT affect which recipes we can find/steal. As @tmbrinks said, provisioning level does affect which recipes you can buy from NPC vendors, although I don't remember if that is tied up to how many skill points are put into provisioning.

I would disagree with this comment. In DLC/expansion zones I seemed to find recipes based only on the amount of skill points put into provisioning. How I discovered this was farming the urns in Dreloth Ancestral Tomb in Vvardenfell and the wardrobes in (pre-nerf) Traitor's Vault. All of my alts were 50/CP160 and I always received recipes based on the skill points put into the Recipe Improvement passive, and not based on character level. This enabled me to farm all the mid-tier recipes pretty quickly.

Unfortunately Traitor's Vault got nerfed, but a typical urn run of Dreloth Ancestral Tomb netted a green recipe probably 95-100% of the time and blue recipe ~30-50% (doing only the first two rooms to avoid loading screens). There is a ~30 minute cool-down on the urns, so I would rotate between 10 alts and by the time I finished the last run I could restart with the first alt and their cooldown would be reset.

So, my advice for "farming" low/mid-tier recipes would be to set your alts' Recipe Improvement passive to whatever tier you want to farm and either: create an alt rotation through the Dreloth Ancestral Tomb; or do the daily provisioning writs on those alts and you'll get the same results.

The tomb runs can be done repeatedly for greater number of recipes, but daily crafting writs will produce a higher percentage of blue/purple recipes of those tiers. (Sorry, I can only provide anecdotal results here as I don't have detailed logs like @tmbrinks )

Regarding the tomb runs, I found the most efficient way to farm it was to complete the quest (which does lock you out of the third room (about 20 urns)) but allows you to move freely between the first two rooms so you can log your character(s) out inside the tomb and never deal with any additional loading screens. (If you don't complete the quest you'll be forced to enter the third room (can't backtrack from second to first) and the third room's only exit is back into the overland which requires a load screen and a lengthy run back around to the main tomb entrance that requires another load screen to enter.)

Bucky_13 · November 2020

Do daily writs on alts, and have at least one in each skill bracket. That's how I collected all basic recipes for my main char way back.

Edit: if possible, vary the factions if you want to have all green recipes faster.

Obsidian3 · November 2020

Bucky_13 wrote: »

Do daily writs on alts, and have at least one in each skill bracket. That's how I collected all basic recipes for my main char way back.

Edit: if possible, vary the factions if you want to have all green recipes faster.

This is how I did it, 2 toons Provisioning Level 1, two on level 2, two on level 3, etc...

I still have them there, so I can sell the purples & rare blues from all levels.

LadySinflower · November 2020

People are talking about buying the recipes from Guild Traders, but a lot of people just offer them free of charge in zone chat or in your Guild chat. I know that I am so inundated with low-level recipes that I am sick of them. I find them while looting containers all over the map. I usually end up giving them to my Merchant for a few pieces of gold rather than bother with trying to give them away in chat because people don't want them. People do put them in Guild Traders, often for significantly less gold than you would pay from a brewer or chef. Seriously, though, watch your chat screens for people giving them away. I see someone giving recipes away every single day. Do your crafting dailies because you'll get all kinds of recipes from the provisioning reward boxes. Do you need any recipes right now? I might have a few or a dozen (depending on the day) that my crafter already knows. If you're on Xbox NA send me a message: ShadokatPH66.
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Fennwitty · November 2020

Trained level does strongly appear to influence the recipes gotten from daily writ turn ins. I have multiple CP160+ characters at various skill points in Provisioning at the moment (gradually training up for the food duration passives). They appear to get recipes close to their trained level as rewards.

I wish I understood how the skill level influences what you find in the world (if it does at all).

Anecdotally, I seem to pick up a mix of skill-appropriate and level-appropriate recipes, but also have a small chance of random level recipes too.

Which means it might be entirely RNG, but overall feels like a character's trained number of passives in Provisioning influence the recipes looted somewhat.

For recipes that can be bought from NPCs, it looks like all lower level recipes are now available for purchase which could be a relatively recent change. My max Provisioner can go to an NPC and buy old daily writ recipes they would have offered now. But purchasable recipes aren't all of them in the game of course.