Battlegrounds and Selecting the game modes we want to actually play....
Rezdayn
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Hey everyone,
A long time ago I did all the achievements in BGs that rewarded a dye or housing item. It took a little bit of time to complete but I thought it was manageable because I could select the game mode I wanted to play. I am not sure if I am remembering that wrong though. I asked some friends and they said you use to be able to select the game mode you wished to play but they have now removed that feature.
Is this correct?
Why in the world can I not select the game mode I want to play?
I really enjoy the capture the relic game mode and have zero interest in the rest of them. Is this "feature" staying?
ZOS can you PLEASE allow us to pick the game mode we wish to queue for?....
Anyways... what do you think?... because I am not going to lie... I wont play the other modes and I dont want to leave the group every time its not the game mode I want. That will leave my group a person down and really bother them... rightly so.
My suggestions:
1) Allow us to select "with groups" and "without"
2) Allow us to select the game mode we want... Its crazy I even need to ask...
I would gladly wait for longer to play the way/mode I actually want...
A long time ago I did all the achievements in BGs that rewarded a dye or housing item. It took a little bit of time to complete but I thought it was manageable because I could select the game mode I wanted to play. I am not sure if I am remembering that wrong though. I asked some friends and they said you use to be able to select the game mode you wished to play but they have now removed that feature.
Is this correct?
Why in the world can I not select the game mode I want to play?
I really enjoy the capture the relic game mode and have zero interest in the rest of them. Is this "feature" staying?
ZOS can you PLEASE allow us to pick the game mode we wish to queue for?....
Anyways... what do you think?... because I am not going to lie... I wont play the other modes and I dont want to leave the group every time its not the game mode I want. That will leave my group a person down and really bother them... rightly so.
My suggestions:
1) Allow us to select "with groups" and "without"
2) Allow us to select the game mode we want... Its crazy I even need to ask...
I would gladly wait for longer to play the way/mode I actually want...
Battlegrounds and Selecting the game modes we want to actually play.... 62 votes
Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...
74%
46 votes
No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...
25%
16 votes
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Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They removed the option to select specific game modes with the latest patch.
At some point, they removed the option to queue with a group. You could only queue as single player to get into a random team.
They have now re-introduced group queues - but as a separate queue from single, and removed the option to choose the game mode.
Their reason being that there are not enough people queuing to fill so many separate queues (each game mode, for both single and group play).
Whether that is true, we have no idea, as only ZOS has actual numbers.1 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Keeping it random is fine imo2 -
Recapitated✭✭✭✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...My poll re: which modes people care about: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7026252#Comment_7026252
My takeaway: for the solo queue, preventing people from choosing a mode will cause them to stop queuing for BGs or queue as group only. 50% of players have a less than 20% chance of going into the one mode they care about, there's just no point queuing solo at that point. Either find a group and treat every mode as deathmatch or don't queue at all.
The point of preventing mode selection is that it prevents certain modes from having very low population, but since it also reduces overall population it's somewhat counterproductive, and it might compound the issue instead of helping.
If it's true that this significantly reduces the queue population then a solution would be to let people select a mode, and then once the group is formed the modes that were selected have a higher chance of getting picked. So if 6 people picked deathmatch, 5 picked Chaosball and 1 picked Crazy King the chances of those modes are 50%, 42%, and 8% respectively.Edited by Recapitated on November 19, 2020 3:44PM0 -
Rezdayn✭✭✭✭✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...They removed the option to select specific game modes with the latest patch.
At some point, they removed the option to queue with a group. You could only queue as single player to get into a random team.
They have now re-introduced group queues - but as a separate queue from single, and removed the option to choose the game mode.
Their reason being that there are not enough people queuing to fill so many separate queues (each game mode, for both single and group play).
Whether that is true, we have no idea, as only ZOS has actual numbers.
Thank you for the info.Daemons_Bane wrote: »Keeping it random is fine imo
Do you think people who only want to play certain game modes will even queue if that's the case? It could mean people leaving early, not getting into queue in the first place etc.
Do you enjoy playing all the games modes? Could you imagine if you didn't like certain game modes to the extent you wouldn't try to play the ones you enjoy?Recapitated wrote: »My poll re: which modes people care about: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7026252#Comment_7026252
My takeaway: for the solo queue, preventing people from choosing a mode will cause them to stop queuing for BGs or queue as group only. 50% of players have a less than 20% chance of going into the one mode they care about, there's just no point queuing solo at that point. Either find a group and treat every mode as deathmatch or don't queue at all.
The point of preventing mode selection is that it prevents certain modes from having very low population, but since it also reduces overall population it's somewhat counterproductive, and it might compound the issue instead of helping.
If it's true that this significantly reduces the queue population then a solution would be to let people select a mode, and then once the group is formed the modes that were selected have a higher chance of getting picked. So if 6 people picked deathmatch, 5 picked Chaosball and 1 picked Crazy King the chances of those modes are 50%, 42%, and 8% respectively.
Interesting info thanks. I also thought it might lower the population due to people not playing at all if they cant pick the mode.0 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Daemons_Bane wrote: »Keeping it random is fine imo
Do you think people who only want to play certain game modes will even queue if that's the case? It could mean people leaving early, not getting into queue in the first place etc.
Do you enjoy playing all the games modes? Could you imagine if you didn't like certain game modes to the extent you wouldn't try to play the ones you enjoy?
It could mean people leaving early, sure, but we had that issue already.. So we would need some numbers to judge if it is bad or not.. And no, I do not enjoy all the game modes.. But as I see it, the randomized is in effect to stop you from dominating a game mode by making specific builds
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ArzyeL✭✭✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...I don't like Chaosball & CTR modes at all, everything else is fine.
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Rezdayn✭✭✭✭✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Keeping it random is fine imo
Do you think people who only want to play certain game modes will even queue if that's the case? It could mean people leaving early, not getting into queue in the first place etc.
Do you enjoy playing all the games modes? Could you imagine if you didn't like certain game modes to the extent you wouldn't try to play the ones you enjoy?
It could mean people leaving early, sure, but we had that issue already.. So we would need some numbers to judge if it is bad or not.. And no, I do not enjoy all the game modes.. But as I see it, the randomized is in effect to stop you from dominating a game mode by making specific builds
Weird they choose to do that in BGs but not Cyro or IC.
Personally I want to play the game for the reason I choose and not theirs. So I will only be playing CTR. I guess I will AFK or leave every other time it pops a mode I didnt choose or want to play. Rip.I don't like Chaosball & CTR modes at all, everything else is fine.
Sadly lately i keep getting those two way too often, so i find myself waiting more time for the deserter penalty to go than actually playing matches.
I fear that is what will happen to me.
Leave and have a huge wait panalty.
AFK and have the community hate you.
No idea if its worth even trying.1 -
vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think it was a stupid decision to remove the ability to select your mode. I know it hurts my team but I just play as If it was a deathmatch every match.
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GulmarAvocado✭✭✭If I’m being very honest I think if they removed flag games this patch’s queue wouldn’t be as terrible. Flag games encourage little to no “pvp” and what I mean by this is actual fighting between player versus player, in most flag games like crazy king and domination the team that fights the least is usually the team that wins and that is absolutely dumb from my perspective of what pvp should accomplish in this game.
I have been doing a fair lot of battlegrounds, mostly solo queue and I must say that at least in high mmr when we get flag games half the group will just ignore flags and simply fight while the other while the other half will capture the flags, this happens because the game mode is just terrible and makes the team split and the people that want to pvp in the group end up 1v/2v8ing making it a terrible experience, same happens for the other players capturing flags they end up leaving because the other part of the team is ignoring objectives.
If they leave us with the other 3 game modes that are kind of balanced when it comes to fighting and objectives I honestly think battlegrounds would be much much better specially when literally no one or almost no one likes flag games.I LIKE AVOCADOS1 -
Rezdayn✭✭✭✭✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...GulmarAvocado wrote: »If I’m being very honest I think if they removed flag games this patch’s queue wouldn’t be as terrible. Flag games encourage little to no “pvp” and what I mean by this is actual fighting between player versus player, in most flag games like crazy king and domination the team that fights the least is usually the team that wins and that is absolutely dumb from my perspective of what pvp should accomplish in this game.
I have been doing a fair lot of battlegrounds, mostly solo queue and I must say that at least in high mmr when we get flag games half the group will just ignore flags and simply fight while the other while the other half will capture the flags, this happens because the game mode is just terrible and makes the team split and the people that want to pvp in the group end up 1v/2v8ing making it a terrible experience, same happens for the other players capturing flags they end up leaving because the other part of the team is ignoring objectives.
If they leave us with the other 3 game modes that are kind of balanced when it comes to fighting and objectives I honestly think battlegrounds would be much much better specially when literally no one or almost no one likes flag games.
Thats if you think of PVP as purely for fighting. You could say they should remove the keeps in cyrodil using the same logic. I dont agree at all. However I respect your opinion when it comes to pvp mainly being a focus on killing other players. I just disagree that all things that have player vs player should cleanse themselves of alternative goals.
You say its because they dont want to cap flags but fail to see that is because they have been forced to play a game mode they dont want to play. If people are focusing kills they should be able to chose death match. If they are focusing flags they should of been able to play a flag game. Its not the game mode that makes the team split its the lack of being able to choice what game mode they want.
They could leave all of them in since choice is not a bad thing since other people will have different tastes to you BUT also give us the choice to choose like a normal game company running a mmo...2 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Keeping it random is fine imo
Do you think people who only want to play certain game modes will even queue if that's the case? It could mean people leaving early, not getting into queue in the first place etc.
Do you enjoy playing all the games modes? Could you imagine if you didn't like certain game modes to the extent you wouldn't try to play the ones you enjoy?
It could mean people leaving early, sure, but we had that issue already.. So we would need some numbers to judge if it is bad or not.. And no, I do not enjoy all the game modes.. But as I see it, the randomized is in effect to stop you from dominating a game mode by making specific builds
Weird they choose to do that in BGs but not Cyro or IC.
Personally I want to play the game for the reason I choose and not theirs. So I will only be playing CTR. I guess I will AFK or leave every other time it pops a mode I didnt choose or want to play. Rip.
Is it really that weird.? Then you have an area where you can build for it, and one where it is randomized.. an area for both types.. but if you are the type that goes afk instead of leaving, just because you don't like thr game mode that you get, I hope you get booted from the server as soon as you try to enter a BG1 -
Rezdayn✭✭✭✭✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Keeping it random is fine imo
Do you think people who only want to play certain game modes will even queue if that's the case? It could mean people leaving early, not getting into queue in the first place etc.
Do you enjoy playing all the games modes? Could you imagine if you didn't like certain game modes to the extent you wouldn't try to play the ones you enjoy?
It could mean people leaving early, sure, but we had that issue already.. So we would need some numbers to judge if it is bad or not.. And no, I do not enjoy all the game modes.. But as I see it, the randomized is in effect to stop you from dominating a game mode by making specific builds
Weird they choose to do that in BGs but not Cyro or IC.
Personally I want to play the game for the reason I choose and not theirs. So I will only be playing CTR. I guess I will AFK or leave every other time it pops a mode I didnt choose or want to play. Rip.
Is it really that weird.? Then you have an area where you can build for it, and one where it is randomized.. an area for both types.. but if you are the type that goes afk instead of leaving, just because you don't like thr game mode that you get, I hope you get booted from the server as soon as you try to enter a BG
Why did they need 1 for each?0 -
Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...In a game where you have to que to even do something, i agree that there should be options. If you are already being forced to wait in order to even participate vs. simply walking up to an entrance; it should be a choice which door they let you through.
It doesn't affect me much, since i don't do PvP or any group content regularly. Regardless, why limit options? It just discourages those like me, a mostly solo player, from joining BG at all.It's green so it's nature! XD0 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Keeping it random is fine imo
Do you think people who only want to play certain game modes will even queue if that's the case? It could mean people leaving early, not getting into queue in the first place etc.
Do you enjoy playing all the games modes? Could you imagine if you didn't like certain game modes to the extent you wouldn't try to play the ones you enjoy?
It could mean people leaving early, sure, but we had that issue already.. So we would need some numbers to judge if it is bad or not.. And no, I do not enjoy all the game modes.. But as I see it, the randomized is in effect to stop you from dominating a game mode by making specific builds
Weird they choose to do that in BGs but not Cyro or IC.
Personally I want to play the game for the reason I choose and not theirs. So I will only be playing CTR. I guess I will AFK or leave every other time it pops a mode I didnt choose or want to play. Rip.
Is it really that weird.? Then you have an area where you can build for it, and one where it is randomized.. an area for both types.. but if you are the type that goes afk instead of leaving, just because you don't like thr game mode that you get, I hope you get booted from the server as soon as you try to enter a BG
Why did they need 1 for each?
Because it is a good option.. it allows people who dont like Cyrodill to still have a decent chance to score AP.. believe it or not, a lot of people find the place daunting.. now they can go to BG instead, with a decent chance to not get steamrolled0 -
DTStormfox✭✭✭✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...I like this random selection of game mode.0
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GulmarAvocado✭✭✭GulmarAvocado wrote: »If I’m being very honest I think if they removed flag games this patch’s queue wouldn’t be as terrible. Flag games encourage little to no “pvp” and what I mean by this is actual fighting between player versus player, in most flag games like crazy king and domination the team that fights the least is usually the team that wins and that is absolutely dumb from my perspective of what pvp should accomplish in this game.
I have been doing a fair lot of battlegrounds, mostly solo queue and I must say that at least in high mmr when we get flag games half the group will just ignore flags and simply fight while the other while the other half will capture the flags, this happens because the game mode is just terrible and makes the team split and the people that want to pvp in the group end up 1v/2v8ing making it a terrible experience, same happens for the other players capturing flags they end up leaving because the other part of the team is ignoring objectives.
If they leave us with the other 3 game modes that are kind of balanced when it comes to fighting and objectives I honestly think battlegrounds would be much much better specially when literally no one or almost no one likes flag games.
Thats if you think of PVP as purely for fighting. You could say they should remove the keeps in cyrodil using the same logic. I dont agree at all. However I respect your opinion when it comes to pvp mainly being a focus on killing other players. I just disagree that all things that have player vs player should cleanse themselves of alternative goals.
You say its because they dont want to cap flags but fail to see that is because they have been forced to play a game mode they dont want to play. If people are focusing kills they should be able to chose death match. If they are focusing flags they should of been able to play a flag game. Its not the game mode that makes the team split its the lack of being able to choice what game mode they want.
They could leave all of them in since choice is not a bad thing since other people will have different tastes to you BUT also give us the choice to choose like a normal game company running a mmo...
I understand ur point, however I simply don’t think flag games are good for pvp in general, keeps in Cyrodiil promotes fighting in one way or the other, someone has to defend them but when it comes to flag games it’s better to leave the flag when an opposing team comes and capture another that’s the real problem on these game modes, if we are just going to run around and not even see the other players or interact with them what even is the point of pvp, I simply find them to be ridiculous game modes that should not exist. Maybe if we could select what you want to play then fine leave them there but since we can’t because we will have 30minutes queues or longer with the 2 new separate solo and group queue AND game mode selection is simply imposible. Crazy king and domination are terrible game modes and I truly think most of the community won’t even care if they are gone.I LIKE AVOCADOS0 -
Rezdayn✭✭✭✭✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Keeping it random is fine imo
Do you think people who only want to play certain game modes will even queue if that's the case? It could mean people leaving early, not getting into queue in the first place etc.
Do you enjoy playing all the games modes? Could you imagine if you didn't like certain game modes to the extent you wouldn't try to play the ones you enjoy?
It could mean people leaving early, sure, but we had that issue already.. So we would need some numbers to judge if it is bad or not.. And no, I do not enjoy all the game modes.. But as I see it, the randomized is in effect to stop you from dominating a game mode by making specific builds
Weird they choose to do that in BGs but not Cyro or IC.
Personally I want to play the game for the reason I choose and not theirs. So I will only be playing CTR. I guess I will AFK or leave every other time it pops a mode I didnt choose or want to play. Rip.
Is it really that weird.? Then you have an area where you can build for it, and one where it is randomized.. an area for both types.. but if you are the type that goes afk instead of leaving, just because you don't like thr game mode that you get, I hope you get booted from the server as soon as you try to enter a BG
Why did they need 1 for each?
Because it is a good option.. it allows people who dont like Cyrodill to still have a decent chance to score AP.. believe it or not, a lot of people find the place daunting.. now they can go to BG instead, with a decent chance to not get steamrolled
and why cant they do that with a choice in BGs as well?DTStormfox wrote: »I like this random selection of game mode.
What about people who only like 1 or 2 game modes?GulmarAvocado wrote: »GulmarAvocado wrote: »If I’m being very honest I think if they removed flag games this patch’s queue wouldn’t be as terrible. Flag games encourage little to no “pvp” and what I mean by this is actual fighting between player versus player, in most flag games like crazy king and domination the team that fights the least is usually the team that wins and that is absolutely dumb from my perspective of what pvp should accomplish in this game.
I have been doing a fair lot of battlegrounds, mostly solo queue and I must say that at least in high mmr when we get flag games half the group will just ignore flags and simply fight while the other while the other half will capture the flags, this happens because the game mode is just terrible and makes the team split and the people that want to pvp in the group end up 1v/2v8ing making it a terrible experience, same happens for the other players capturing flags they end up leaving because the other part of the team is ignoring objectives.
If they leave us with the other 3 game modes that are kind of balanced when it comes to fighting and objectives I honestly think battlegrounds would be much much better specially when literally no one or almost no one likes flag games.
Thats if you think of PVP as purely for fighting. You could say they should remove the keeps in cyrodil using the same logic. I dont agree at all. However I respect your opinion when it comes to pvp mainly being a focus on killing other players. I just disagree that all things that have player vs player should cleanse themselves of alternative goals.
You say its because they dont want to cap flags but fail to see that is because they have been forced to play a game mode they dont want to play. If people are focusing kills they should be able to chose death match. If they are focusing flags they should of been able to play a flag game. Its not the game mode that makes the team split its the lack of being able to choice what game mode they want.
They could leave all of them in since choice is not a bad thing since other people will have different tastes to you BUT also give us the choice to choose like a normal game company running a mmo...
I understand ur point, however I simply don’t think flag games are good for pvp in general, keeps in Cyrodiil promotes fighting in one way or the other, someone has to defend them but when it comes to flag games it’s better to leave the flag when an opposing team comes and capture another that’s the real problem on these game modes, if we are just going to run around and not even see the other players or interact with them what even is the point of pvp, I simply find them to be ridiculous game modes that should not exist. Maybe if we could select what you want to play then fine leave them there but since we can’t because we will have 30minutes queues or longer with the 2 new separate solo and group queue AND game mode selection is simply imposible. Crazy king and domination are terrible game modes and I truly think most of the community won’t even care if they are gone.
Technically flag games promote fights at the flag. Yes the meta stops that but the meta of ball groups normally minimises "real" fights or smaller scale fights as well.
I just think we should be able to chose what we want to play. In cyrodil we can choose to zerg, ball, solo etc. In literally every game almost that has different game modes we can choose.
Edited by Rezdayn on November 21, 2020 6:29AM1 -
oddbasket✭✭✭✭✭
✭They left us with team or solo queue random queue, although you still get pitted against team queued players when you solo queue, so it's basically just one queue.0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hey everyone,
A long time ago I did all the achievements in BGs that rewarded a dye or housing item. It took a little bit of time to complete but I thought it was manageable because I could select the game mode I wanted to play. I am not sure if I am remembering that wrong though. I asked some friends and they said you use to be able to select the game mode you wished to play but they have now removed that feature.
Is this correct?
Why in the world can I not select the game mode I want to play?
I really enjoy the capture the relic game mode and have zero interest in the rest of them. Is this "feature" staying?
ZOS can you PLEASE allow us to pick the game mode we wish to queue for?....
Anyways... what do you think?... because I am not going to lie... I wont play the other modes and I dont want to leave the group every time its not the game mode I want. That will leave my group a person down and really bother them... rightly so.
My suggestions:
1) Allow us to select "with groups" and "without"
2) Allow us to select the game mode we want... Its crazy I even need to ask...
I would gladly wait for longer to play the way/mode I actually want...
I miss being able to pick too. But I think the developers are probably right here. I don't think the PvP population is large enough to support two separate queue systems without the random factor. Queues can already be pretty long sometimes and even then I frequently get into undermanned groups. I got put into a relic match the other night all by my lonesome.Edited by Jeremy on November 21, 2020 10:09AM0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...I am not going to lie... I wont play the other modes and I dont want to leave the group every time its not the game mode I want. That will leave my group a person down and really bother them... rightly so.
Why not just go afk like the people trying to get their Rapids back? That way your team will still have a full group. If you're lucky you might have a couple of teammates who play deathmatch regardless of what mode RNGeezus assigns you.0 -
relentless_turnip✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...The reason they did this is because they were worried that already separating the queue into solo and group would be too few players and cause long queues as it bottlenecks.
Queues are fast at the moment I don't want them to make any changes that would slow them down. It was a compromise they announced to the community and one I am personally pretty happy with.1 -
relentless_turnip✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...They left us with team or solo queue random queue, although you still get pitted against team queued players when you solo queue, so it's basically just one queue.
No you don't... Some people just work better than others, it was like this when we only had solo queues.0 -
Coatmagic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, its crazy they dont allow us to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Random is not okay.
People just leave when they don't like what they get and then those that stay are left hanging.
It is unclear why/how other games are able to have working group finders while ESO struggles so very, very much.
Without the ability to choose game modes, they may as well have left it as it was, because ALL games end up being DM.0 -
Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The truth is that battlegrounds was a dud from the start, they clearly expected so few players to be interested in it that they not only released a PvP centric class in the form of the warden, but also stuffed a load of bound motifs in there.
There simply is not enough players to justify giving the choice of modes because it would dilute the already tiny pool.
Having worked in the industry on similar game systems I don’t believe for one moment that the situation where you would get 3vs4vs4 was a bug, that looked entirely deliberate to me. The supply of players was so small that rather than dump people in an endless queue it was considered preferable to run them through with subs sized groups.
PVP has always been the redheaded stepchild of this game because the vast majority of the player base come from single player games, the PVP community has had to be built from scratch and it has never really taken off. Even at launch the percentage of players interested in it was under 10% and on average it’s done nothing but shrink . Why do you think 98% of the releases are for PvE, they have clearly decided that there just aren’t enough players and not enough money in PVP to make release in context content worth while.
This game is a business first and foremost, it must make money, the money is in the PvE side of the equation therefore PVP runs on life support with limited options. This is not going to change. We can either settle in and enjoy it or move onto a different game, those are our choices0 -
Neatle✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...i don't like the idea of splitting queues once again and therefore increasing the queue time
plus this would push people to optimize their build into some specific game mode and would have a notable impact on the balance for normal people outhere just playing all the available game modes0 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Keeping it random is fine imo
Do you think people who only want to play certain game modes will even queue if that's the case? It could mean people leaving early, not getting into queue in the first place etc.
Do you enjoy playing all the games modes? Could you imagine if you didn't like certain game modes to the extent you wouldn't try to play the ones you enjoy?
It could mean people leaving early, sure, but we had that issue already.. So we would need some numbers to judge if it is bad or not.. And no, I do not enjoy all the game modes.. But as I see it, the randomized is in effect to stop you from dominating a game mode by making specific builds
Weird they choose to do that in BGs but not Cyro or IC.
Personally I want to play the game for the reason I choose and not theirs. So I will only be playing CTR. I guess I will AFK or leave every other time it pops a mode I didnt choose or want to play. Rip.
Is it really that weird.? Then you have an area where you can build for it, and one where it is randomized.. an area for both types.. but if you are the type that goes afk instead of leaving, just because you don't like thr game mode that you get, I hope you get booted from the server as soon as you try to enter a BG
Why did they need 1 for each?
Because it is a good option.. it allows people who dont like Cyrodill to still have a decent chance to score AP.. believe it or not, a lot of people find the place daunting.. now they can go to BG instead, with a decent chance to not get steamrolled
and why cant they do that with a choice in BGs as well?
I don't think you got my point.. if you are allowed to choose your BG type, you are more inclined to make a specific build towards that type.. that is what many of us would like to avoid0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What it boils down to is most people play all modes like deathmatch anyway so maybe they just need solo/group death matches. Population problem solved.0 -
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✭No, we should not get to pick the modes we wish to participate in...I don't think they should split up the queues anymore because I don't want to wait any longer for games. Six queues to choose from would be pretty insane. Instead, they should just make death match (most people's favorite mode) come up more frequently. They can code matchmaking to prefer death match with about a 50% prevalence. I think 50% death match and 50% other objective mode would be a split everyone could live with.“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”0
