ElliottXO wrote: »

In short: the weapon determines your role. So anyone with brains will only queue as a healer if he has restorations staff skilled, and anyone who queues as a tank has shield skilled.

Thank you for your answer.

So are you saying that having a Restoration staff equipped + Restoration staff skills, is enough to be a "healer" ... and I can put all other skills into DPS in order to be able to level efficiently?

I don't know that they've ever said they want to abolish the holy trinity or that the tank and healer roles were unnecessary. In my experience the roles do exist in the game and are needed, really. The difference is your class choice does not determine your role - the weapon type does (so anyone can do anything).

Deepfry wrote: »

I thought that one of the main points of ESO was that there were no longer the "tank / dps / healer" stereotypes?

Whilst there are still "pure DPS" characters, it seems to me that "tank" and "healer" are far less stereotyped, especially at lower levels when you need to be able to do reasonable DPS in order to level up.

So, for example, what exactly do people mean, at levels 10-40, when they say they are "looking for a healer"?

What exactly are they looking for? A player with a pure healing spec? Or just a player with some healing skills?

PS: I ask this question for 2 reasons. Firstly out of curiosity, to try to understand this new game. But secondly because I have a Templar who I hope one day will be a serious healer, but who for the moment is 1/3 healer and 2/3 DPS, simply to be able to level up properly. So should I be joining groups as a healer, or as a DPS?

this is a misinterpretation of what was said...

they never stated that there will be no roles such as tank and healer... but that there will be no class-role block... that is to say that being a DK don't automaticaly means that you are a tank... being a templar don't means being an healer... and every single class can cover every single role...

also by thx to the ability to build hybrid class is it possible to even run group content without specific roles... but being able to do it doesn't mean that it is conveninet... as the devs themself stated in a few interview; you can complete a dungeon with 4 dps, but doing it with a "proper party setup" will make it easier and faster

Deepfry wrote: »

reggielee wrote: »

On some dungeons I have to use all my healing skills to keep everyone up, no way could someone with just a couple healing spells and a restor staff could do it. No wonder I keep getting gracious thanks from my groups as I know I am not the best healer out there but if enuf people are queing up with only a staff and one heal it must be horrid out there for groups

What level are you ?

Because if you are relatively low level (let's say between 10 and 30), isn't it hard to solo quests and level up if you have no DPS skills (or almost none) ?

As a level 14 Templar I had more than enough skills to have 5+ dps skills and 5 healing skills, plus some passives in both. So really easy to switch between healing a dungeon and solo levelling.

I have always enjoyed being a healer in AoC, where im a T4 healer, here I hoped to become a healer also, I just dont want to be the race that has the best skill line for healing (Argonian)

Deepfry, if you enjoy grouping up for dungeons, this game is not for you. They removed exp gains from pretty much all multiplayer content. Your reward for getting to 50 is having to do another faction's quests.

This is a solo questing game and they punish you by stopping progress if you attempt to do anything else. It sucks.

When they say they want a healer, they mean they want someone who can keep everyone alive during the dungeon. It doesnt really matter if you use a resto staff or 2hander as long as you can keep them alive.

Me for example, I have a resto staff as a secondary weapon but I play 75% of the dungeon using a bow with just 1 healing spell on my bar.

Well at this point I think I (level 30) and going to hang around the grotto etc and stick with the level 16 and under and see how I do, at least it doesn't take as much magic to heal them lol ..

The roles still exist because players are still trapped in the World of Warcraft class system. You can do a dungeon just fine without being a pure tank or healer, that's also what players did at Vanilla wow btw.

It however became a trend that for instance a shadow specced priest refused to heal, so players started with the "you must only have healing if you want to join" stuff.

Same with tanks, my Warlock tanked a lot at Vanilla including raid content. If you know what you are doing, then you will succeed. But your group also has to adjust.

Brain is more important than the rest, so if you are declined from a group because you don't have a specific spec from a website, just put the players on ignore and move on.

Because if you are relatively low level (let's say between 10 and 30), isn't it hard to solo quests and level up if you have no DPS skills (or almost none) ?

I play tanky and get along just fine. The only non tank spell that I have is a heal The good thing about this game is, that you can really do what you want to do without worrying about skill tree´s or so.

Everyone will get forward, the game isn't so hard + you play with others all the time, its not like in other games where you must tag mobs or so. If you see someone doing the same quest as you, just go with him and heal. You will get the quest then as well.