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  • newtinmpls
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    Scottfree2 wrote: »
    Hmm, using yre own chars as house guests sounds like a terrific idea.

    I so want to do this!!
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    Give me that one cracked out guild trader woman who is painting in Northern Elsweyr. She's seen some stuff for sure lol
  • SpearofBitterMercy
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    You'd have to pay me too keep that milk drinker in my house.
  • NoMoreChillies
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    gimmie Zaji
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • colossalvoids
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    It's eso forum, not a twitter btw.
  • Bucky_13
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    Give me that one cracked out guild trader woman who is painting in Northern Elsweyr. She's seen some stuff for sure lol

    The fact that on PC EU, she's been selling stuff for a guild called "Khajiit Skooma Dealers" has been a constant source of joy for me for awhile. It's just the perfect match of guild and trader.
  • Sheridan
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    Well, on the contrary, choosing from the existing houseguests, he is the only person I'd rather have in my house, because he is, at least, the only existing character from the game, not just some random unknown NPC like the others. I want Darien, Razum-Dar and the others, but this will mess the continuity even more, so I guess this is not gonna happen.
  • Pixative
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    Remember what the innocent, strong, good-natured, peaceful, smart, friendly, hard-working and so forth Argonian allies do the instant
    Baar Dau drops and Morrowind is left broken and vulnerable. Do they send help to their "friends"?

    I can't go anywhere in Tamriel without being godmodded into "saving" one of them from some 2 dimensional, 4th wall breaking strawman, or being forced to watch some contrived theater play out painting them as great. The ham-fisted harping on about how awesome I must pretend they are in order to complete many quests has made me like those pseudo-sapient robotic lizards even less.
  • The_Camper
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    The year is 2023. The proc sets have taken over the game and lag has driven everyone out of the playing fields. You login to the game on a chilly Saturday evening and visit an empty belkarth wayshrine crowded only by the handful of NPCs. You let off a soft sigh reminiscing all the raid parties and silly role plays you had here. “You want to cry me a river? maybe you can float out of Craglorn” goes Corentin Clavarie.

    Snapping back into reality, you decide to go visit your main house, Princely Dawnlight Palace. As the load screen goes off after 53 seconds, you lay your eyes on your years of work, your crown jewel. You are home!
    As you enter the Palace, your gaze upon the large table in the middle. With it, number of familiar faces stare at you. All 17 of your other characters, nod in acknowledgement of your presence.

    “It’s been a long a time” says the Orc stamina sorcerer.

    “Yes it has been. Times have been tough. You were waiting for me all this time?”

    “Always have been.

    Are we going on adventures again? Cyrodil perhaps?” says the eager Magicka warden.

    “I’m afraid we can’t. I logged in one final time before saying goodbye. There is no one left here anymore”

    “Well we had a good run eh? One final drink for the good old times?”

    “One final drink”

    *crashes for the final time*
  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    House Quests should have location based dialogue instead of random Dialogue, many lines of which may not make sense for the location you live in like the NPC mentioning how they went to town even though for some player homes that may be physically impossible for them to do because you live on an Island or in Blackreach or in Coldharbour or you get the point.

    Like for example let's say we have an NPC Housequest named Joe, now Joe would have an established backstory, an Imperial with medium-level wealth, if you place him to an Inn room or an apartment he may be dissatisfied with the size of the player home but if you put him in a Manor home he will be in awe and have dialogue that reflects this and may comment on the surrounding area, he might comment on being nervous about the Volcano which the Ebonheart Chateau was built upon, he might feel delight in staying in a place like Jode's Embrace or even feel scared being in Bastion Sanguinaris.
  • Jaimeh
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    The issue with houseguests is that they take up a collectibles slot, so I'd rather have a non-combat pet than the 2.5k crown prince :D Also, as a commenter said above, it'd be so cool to have our own characters in our houses.
  • Elvenheart
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    The_Camper wrote: »
    The year is 2023. The proc sets have taken over the game and lag has driven everyone out of the playing fields. You login to the game on a chilly Saturday evening and visit an empty belkarth wayshrine crowded only by the handful of NPCs. You let off a soft sigh reminiscing all the raid parties and silly role plays you had here. “You want to cry me a river? maybe you can float out of Craglorn” goes Corentin Clavarie.

    Snapping back into reality, you decide to go visit your main house, Princely Dawnlight Palace. As the load screen goes off after 53 seconds, you lay your eyes on your years of work, your crown jewel. You are home!
    As you enter the Palace, your gaze upon the large table in the middle. With it, number of familiar faces stare at you. All 17 of your other characters, nod in acknowledgement of your presence.

    “It’s been a long a time” says the Orc stamina sorcerer.

    “Yes it has been. Times have been tough. You were waiting for me all this time?”

    “Always have been.

    Are we going on adventures again? Cyrodil perhaps?” says the eager Magicka warden.

    “I’m afraid we can’t. I logged in one final time before saying goodbye. There is no one left here anymore”

    “Well we had a good run eh? One final drink for the good old times?”

    “One final drink”

    *crashes for the final time*

    This makes me cry. 😢
  • fred4
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Irnskar went through an entire reconciliation arc. He's not that minded anymore.

    You are assuming that people pay attention to the quests they rush through.
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    Indeed. I once played Oblivion, then Skyrim. Now that I have discovered my first MMO, real life players have become far more important than quests. For those of us who stick with the game for a long time (5 years and counting), ZOS are missing the point. The only thing that interests me about housing are the creative ideas other players come up with. The only interesting toons I want to place in my house are my own characters - who I think of as living there - and those that offer functionality (target skeletons, banker etc.). The only thing I still appreciate about the world is the art design and those monsters that are a challenge to kill. The only thing I appreciate about BGs are the players and the terrain, not the incomprehensible scoring system nor the fancy game modes beyond Deathmatch. NPCs yammering on about their meaningless problems are a distraction at the end of dungeons when you want to talk to the other players in chat or in Discord. I certainly don't want them in my house and I have taken to turn the dialogue audio down to zero as of late. My banker already keeps going on about laurels that I earned in some nebulous past. I don't want more of that. It's time to let it go. The worst, though, are the NPCs that follow you around in some places, because you never did the quest there. It's cute and immersive only when you first play the game, but not after 5 years.

    <Sigh>. I am still here! This is what it means to be a long-term player of an MMO. I guess there are people who actually care about the year-long storylines and who play the game for the PvE expansions. Perhaps that's the majority, I don't know. This would only work for me if ZOS substantially upped their game in the writing department, e.g. to Bioware levels - and I mean pre-Dragon Age Inquisition levels. The writing in ESO is extremely stilted. It lacks all subtlety and ambiguity as characters simply declare who they are and what the mechanics of their quest are. The rest of the writing is mostly filler an 11-year old child could come up with. The exceptions are few and far between. Naryu comes to mind, but I can't even remember why.
  • MajThorax
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    There are certain NPCs that project interesting personalities despite the fact most of us rush through quests and don't pay attention to everything they say. It's hard not to love Cadwell but even the most interesting NPCs become boring when all they do is say idly some phrases when you talk to them. House guests have no depth so far and definitely are not worth so much money.
  • fred4
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    MajThorax wrote: »
    There are certain NPCs that project interesting personalities despite the fact most of us rush through quests and don't pay attention to everything they say. It's hard not to love Cadwell but even the most interesting NPCs become boring when all they do is say idly some phrases when you talk to them. House guests have no depth so far and definitely are not worth so much money.
    I'm not a fan of Cadwell. I liked Heem-Jas and thought the writing in that expansion was quite funny. You're right, if characters display some personality that helps. Unfortunately, much as I wanted to like her, Lyris is a total bore as is Sai Sahan. Abnur Tharn is grating.

    There is a minor character in the Mass Effect games, Tali Zora. I say minor, because she comes and goes and never seemed to be given top-billing. Nonetheless I found her one of the most memorable and this established itself at the beginning of Mass Effect 1 for me. I am not alone. There is / was a Tali Zora fan club or a forum thread to that effect - a long one.

    When I played the first game a second time I tried to figure out what made her so memorable. She doesn't actually have that much dialogue, but I think I figured it out. She is not one-note. When she first joins the crew she is kind of mopey, but it turns out she is just young and homesick. After a mission or two, her spirits pick up and her attitude changes. Now that is good writing. Most game writing, when a character is given a personality at all, has them stuck in a single mode. There is no development, no mystery. There are no facets to their personality. I guess it's just easier to handle it that way when you have a team of writers. Cadwell is always wacky, Abnur Tharn always pompous, and so on. With Heem-Jas at least there is a contradiction between what he says and what he does. That alone is rare in ESO. Or perhaps the NPC-typical incompetence matching up with the writing, for once, is what endeared him to me.
    Edited by fred4 on November 16, 2020 7:38PM
  • Smaxx
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    Think about it differently. You can now "invite" him to your own little House of Torture and maybe we'll one day get a small doll driving around on a tiny tricycle so you can PlAy SoMe GaMeZ…! 😀
  • redlink1979
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    I'm not interested in any of house guests they've introduced so far.
    "Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"
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  • markulrich1966
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    I was baffled, if not disappointed.

    ESO has a medivial setting, and if you google for some words I better will not write down here, you will see that it was dirty and "wild" (ehem...).

    The basegame still reflects this to a certain degree, e.g. the inn in mournhold with the player-home room is obviously a bordell.

    So instead of some boring overpriced guy this game could be made so much more attractive by offering musicians, and (table-) dancers.

    I think it is unfortunate that the game is very conservative in this regard, e.g. diapers messing up the timberrcrow costume that otherwise would look at least a LITTLE sexy, or boring houseguests instead of attractive ones adding some real cool medival ambience.
  • fred4
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    I like the medieval ambience idea. There are dance moves in the game already. Could be added to pathing, if not already.

    I would simply like more slots for my mounts and pets. I have the Aldmeri Grotto, where some of my animals roam. I'd put a herd of horses in there, if I could. Currently I have various scenes, which were made before pathing. Unfortunately these also involve inanimate objects, which I assume are excluded from pathing.

    I have the dino chicken and a dog playing football with a depleted dwarven sphere.

    I have one of my mounts on a flying carpet on a rescue mission to save her cub. This involves a skyshard search-light and sconce rocket boosters on the carpet. If I could make that move, it would be cool.

    Heck, if inanimate objects could be made to move that would make for some really interesting parkour.
  • Inaya
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    I want Verandis in my house!
  • bellanca6561n
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    Smaxx wrote: »
    Think about it differently. You can now "invite" him to your own little House of Torture and maybe we'll one day get a small doll driving around on a tiny tricycle so you can PlAy SoMe GaMeZ…! 😀

    That surprised me, how many people in my guild could only see the idiot prince as a guest in some sort of torture device or cage :p

    But the biggest surprise in reading this thread is just how much many of you really like NPC characters in online games. Oh, I enjoyed the writing in Orsinium and Mirkmire thoroughly. And some of those characters like Eveli Sharp-Arrow and Jaxsik-Orrn were quite memorable.

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    But I wouldn't want them in my house. :o

    Personally, I know landscape housing would be wholly impractical today, and instanced housing is more an expression of an individual player than it is an integral part of the multiplayer game itself. Thus, choosing your favorite story characters fits that bill. Not for me but I'm just...well....me.
  • Ascarl
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    omnidoh wrote: »
    While I agree that having your own alts as house-guests is a great idea, ZOS would never go for that unless there is profit in it.
    Remember, everything about this game is for profit. Nothing more, nothing less.

    They could offer one char for free, every other char 1k gold as they did with outfits.
  • bellanca6561n
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    Ascarl wrote: »
    omnidoh wrote: »
    While I agree that having your own alts as house-guests is a great idea, ZOS would never go for that unless there is profit in it.
    Remember, everything about this game is for profit. Nothing more, nothing less.

    They could offer one char for free, every other char 1k gold as they did with outfits.

    That would be fair. But sometimes a company needs to give back to the community that feeds, clothes, and houses them in real life. We own nothing in this game, not even our own characters. They own everything. It's a utility company model; we're paying for access to the servers basically.

    There's actually a very good reason for that. [snip] And game developers don't think that way. But often their bosses have to. There was a huge court case in Japan many years ago that ruled in favor of player ownership of their characters and in-game assets. There was the Avatar Rights movement, etc.

    Yeah, I'm going a bit far afield. Point is, it's simply good for business and community relations and retention to back off those cold facts from time to time. And giving us access to our own - even though they're not ours - characters in our own - though we don't own them either - houses would be a smart move.

    Keep offering NPCs for those who want them. Simple.

    [Edited to remove Inappropriate Content]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on November 16, 2020 5:32PM
  • PrimusNephilim
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    Aye, this one's a milk drinker for sure but at last, already purchased ~ Cheers

    PN
  • Dojohoda
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    1. The price tag is too high.
    2. There is no preview offered of his dialogue in the crown store.
    3. Chances are that I would have to remove a collectable in order to use the new one.
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  • Uryel
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    Of course, what I would love to see is my own characters in my home. Wouldn't pay for it. I created them, educated them, fed them, clothed them, outfitted them for battle, brought them back from the dead countless times when they were defeated, and even imagined and composed backstories for some of them. No NPC could possibly be as interesting to me as the characters I've created. Doubtless, this is true of every ESO player who regards their characters as more than gameplay tools ;)


    Yes, pretty please with sugar on top. I'd pay for that too !
  • Dracane
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    Irnskar was a fool, but from playing Greymoor I saw, that he grew over the years and is decent now. I allowed him entry.

    The mistress has use for thugs.
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

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  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    I don't want ANY of them in my home. Instead, please give me a selection of proper servants of varying races and sexes.

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  • illusiouk
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    I want a bard who I can set on a path around my house walking and playing his lute as he sings, Three voices as one shouted, "Blood for the Pact"
  • xaraan
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    I don't particularly like him as an NPC to have around, but either way he is priced too high. If this is their intention with houseguests, then I won't be getting very many of the ones priced like that.
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