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Please lift the "deconstruction ban".
SpiderKnight
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Am I the only one still with a storage container or two of old jewelry stashed away? It has been years, Zos, the time is now to lift the ban on pre-Summerset jewelry and let us decon these pieces so we don't have to vendor them for a handful of change. Since you're going to still make jewelry mats, specifically-plating, an issue to build up, give us this opportunity to gather a decent amount of valuable mats.
Please lift the "deconstruction ban". 178 votes
Aye.
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115 votes
Nay.
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Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nay.ZOS made pre-Summerset jewelry not deconstructable to make sure there wasn't an unfair advantage, @SpiderKnight.
That still applies today.16 -
Thechuckage✭✭✭✭✭Aye.Player who signed up in beta has a much larger advantage to a player who signed up yesterday. There has been more than sufficient time for people who signed up at summerset to gain some crafting traction.
It ok to put aside rules that no longer have relevance.23 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nay.I don't think it should have been implemented in the first place but since it was, I believe it should stay in place.4 -
zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Aye.Lifting the ban benefits everyone, since market is supply demand more supply means lower prices
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Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Aye.I joined ESO last year (and thus have no non-deconstructable jewelry) but don’t see a good reason why this prohibition should have existed in the first place and certainly not now. Let these players have the mats I say!Edited by Araneae6537 on November 13, 2020 11:52PM6 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i sorta like the no deconstruction tags tho, makes the jewelry feel more unique5 -
opaj✭✭✭✭✭
✭I support lifting it in theory, but I have a feeling that it's more work for the developers than it's worth. Speaking as someone who has a pile of old, unsorted, undeconstructable jewelry.
Now that we have gear collections, I need to go through and just vendor all that old junk to be honest.0 -
WeerW3ir✭✭✭✭✭
✭Aye.fact1. with collections this should have been already a thing. lol
fact2. Summerset is not new. even if its the best chapter ever into the elder scrolls online. the jewelry from before it still untouchable.
So. make them deconstructable.
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nay.I think it's waste of resources since those items are probably different items than current jewelry. And there probably isn't a lot of this jewelry left either. Some issues are so minor they don't require dev attention and this is one imo3 -
ShawnLaRock✭✭✭✭✭
✭Please no! But not because I couldn’t use the mats - but b/c it would surely introduce some new code bug trying to re-write permissions on EVERY piece! Lol. Ugh.
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Edit: I am 1070-something, and STILL have the Prophet’s ring on my main. <face palm>Edited by ShawnLaRock on November 14, 2020 12:26AM5 -
zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Aye.ShawnLaRock wrote: »Please no! But not because I couldn’t use the mats - but b/c it would surely introduce some new code bug trying to re-write permissions on EVERY piece! Lol. Ugh.
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Edit: I am 1070-something, and STILL have the Prophet’s ring on my main. <face palm>
If anything it will remove code of items that "can't be deconstructed", it will be really hard to f*** up, and will be optimizing code. But I do believe they can f*** it up thoughEdited by zvavi on November 14, 2020 12:27AM5 -
preevious✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nay.Meh .. you kept the 2 storage containers full of jewels in hope the ban would be lifted. It will not be, and it was for naught.
The sunken cost fallacy is at play, here. Realize it, and vendor them.8 -
SpiderKnight✭✭✭✭✭
✭Aye.Meh .. you kept the 2 storage containers full of jewels in hope the ban would be lifted. It will not be, and it was for naught.
The sunken cost fallacy is at play, here. Realize it, and vendor them.
That's actually not the reason I kept them, it's the same reason majority of players kept lots of set pieces...4 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nay.I have just used my pre Summerset jewelry for my sticker book and if it's not a bound item I'm now selling them......
Plenty of people just want items to add to their collections atm
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!2 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nay.If you aren't going to use them, sell them. Inventory freed. I have pieces like that too. Since they are in the sticker book now, a lot have been sold.2 -
richo262✭✭✭✭✭
✭ShawnLaRock wrote: »Please no! But not because I couldn’t use the mats - but b/c it would surely introduce some new code bug trying to re-write permissions on EVERY piece! Lol. Ugh.
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Edit: I am 1070-something, and STILL have the Prophet’s ring on my main. <face palm>
If anything it will remove code of items that "can't be deconstructed", it will be really hard to f*** up, and will be optimizing code. But I do believe they can f*** it up though
The radical notion that removing code couldn't also have the same effect as adding code when it comes to bugs.
Also, what is more likely is your non-decon ring exists on a completely different loot table. It is actually an entirely different item to the one that is deconstructable. It is in your sticker book now, just sell it off.1 -
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✭✭One way would give advantage for people who have been in voluntary disadvantage for wasting their storage and possibly slightly annoy people who vended the stuff away and other way vice versa. Does not concern me.0 -
Shaie✭✭✭Aye.I agree it should be lifted & indeed should never have been implemented in the first place. "But people who'd played since day 1 and kept EVERY SINGLE JEWELRY ITEM THEY EVER GOT would have an advantage!" Right, because as a rule we only get GRAINS when deconning jewelry, not platings AND usually a single grain of the 10 required to make a single plating. Also, by that logic then no one should have been able to access that system until EVERY player had purchased Summerset, because everyone who purchased Summerset at launch was able to access the entirety of the JC system.
I'll also add that I vendored all my pre-Summerset jewelry, so it's not like I have a chest full of rings & necks hiding somewhere to influence my vote.1 -
oddbasket✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nay.I would rather just hope players move on instead of holding to those jewelry already from a few years ago, instead of asking ZOS to go back and work on something that has only a 1 time benefit for a group players still stubbornly holding them and does nothing for the game going forward.3 -
UntilValhalla13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they just didn't know how to technically alter the old jewelry code to be deconned to begin with.3 -
LashanW✭✭✭✭✭
✭Aye.
Summerset was released 2 years ago, please explain what is the unfair advantage and how it still applies today?Taleof2Cities wrote: »ZOS made pre-Summerset jewelry not deconstructable to make sure there wasn't an unfair advantage.
That still applies today.---No longer active in ESO---
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cynicalbutterfly✭✭✭✭Aye.I knew nothing about this ban on pre Summerset jewelery but now something I encountered makes sense. I bought a piece of jewelry to complete a set but when I upgraded to another set I couldn't decon this one piece. It sat in my storage chests until I finally had enough of it taking up useless space. I had to destroy it since I couldn't sell or decon it. I should've at least been able to decon it for a grain. Summerset has been out for a long time. Whatever anyone still has stored up isn't going to mess up the economy on jewelry mats.0 -
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✭✭Aye.Taleof2Cities wrote: »ZOS made pre-Summerset jewelry not deconstructable to make sure there wasn't an unfair advantage, @SpiderKnight.
That still applies today.
No it doesn't. Who still has a stockpile of pre-Summerset jewelry large enough to give them a meaningful advantage 2+ years later?SpiderKnight wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »ZOS made pre-Summerset jewelry not deconstructable to make sure there wasn't an unfair advantage, @SpiderKnight.
That still applies today.
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[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on November 14, 2020 6:28PM3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Nay.Taleof2Cities wrote: »ZOS made pre-Summerset jewelry not deconstructable to make sure there wasn't an unfair advantage, @SpiderKnight.
That still applies today.
This and OP is specifically asking for that unfair advantage to be given to them. It was a solid choice Zos made. I doubt they will reverse such a solid choice for the very small portion of the player base that saved their hoard of pre-summerset jewelry.1 -
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SpiderKnight✭✭✭✭✭
✭Aye.Taleof2Cities wrote: »ZOS made pre-Summerset jewelry not deconstructable to make sure there wasn't an unfair advantage, @SpiderKnight.
That still applies today.
This and OP is specifically asking for that unfair advantage to be given to them. It was a solid choice Zos made. I doubt they will reverse such a solid choice for the very small portion of the player base that saved their hoard of pre-summerset jewelry.
Lol, again, it has been a long time for anyone, since Summerset, to get an advantage over new people today, so it doesn't even matter. I will not be gaining anything over anyone more than if they just discarded this "solid choice" in the beginning. I doubt that I was in the minority who hoarded set pieces up until this reconstruction feature. 2 -
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✭✭Aye.Taleof2Cities wrote: »ZOS made pre-Summerset jewelry not deconstructable to make sure there wasn't an unfair advantage, @SpiderKnight.
That still applies today.
This and OP is specifically asking for that unfair advantage to be given to them.
Who has a stockpile of pre-Summerset jewelry large enough to give them a meaningful advantage 2+ years later? How large of a stockpile would a person need to have to posses an advantage over the tens of thousands of players that have already maxed out jewelry crafting?Edited by Mindcr0w on November 14, 2020 7:09PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Nay.Taleof2Cities wrote: »ZOS made pre-Summerset jewelry not deconstructable to make sure there wasn't an unfair advantage, @SpiderKnight.
That still applies today.
This and OP is specifically asking for that unfair advantage to be given to them.
Who has a stockpile of pre-Summerset jewelry large enough to give them a meaningful advantage 2+ years later? How large of a stockpile would a person need to have to posses an advantage over the tens of thousands of players that have already maxed out jewelry crafting?
Sorry, @Mindcr0w, you and several others' attempts to minimize the issue doesn't work.
Edited by Taleof2Cities on November 14, 2020 7:42PM1
