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Vate hollow final boss

Aleinzzs
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It's bugging out, not summoning trash mobs every 25% then randomly summoning 3, i've died several times just sitting there repairing gear before the next attempt, just random explosions, and the frame drops in here are absurd, i'm sure i'ts just another whine post to most of yall, but this is absurd, the videos on PTS i didnt see half the problems going on. /rant off
  • Aleinzzs
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    damn i make this post, and go back to a corpse from being killed when not fighting it, and the game crashes, good job zos
  • Andoreaibara
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    Why i can't finish the arena in veteran ?
    Cause i bought a content that i cant finish...
    Why? Cause i have 400cp,and at the final boss spawn a lot of adds that damage you too much...why its so hard do a dps? Why so elitist this game?
    I want to do this and the game its bugged everywhere,no heavy atacks no light atacks the crushing hits what he wants!!!
    Why i have to wait a lot of time to finish this arena? Instead of doing content i have to lvl up my character only because of this ???

    Why is not calibrate to 300? Why so elititst?
  • Xuhora
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    Why i can't finish the arena in veteran ?
    Cause i bought a content that i cant finish...
    Why? Cause i have 400cp,and at the final boss spawn a lot of adds that damage you too much...why its so hard do a dps? Why so elitist this game?
    I want to do this and the game its bugged everywhere,no heavy atacks no light atacks the crushing hits what he wants!!!
    Why i have to wait a lot of time to finish this arena? Instead of doing content i have to lvl up my character only because of this ???

    Why is not calibrate to 300? Why so elititst?

    im sorry but no. the factor that u only have 400 cp is NOT why you dont succeed
  • Andoreaibara
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    Ok,give me a video doing the vet arena with 300cp and then i belive u...
  • MalEducado
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    Xuhora wrote: »
    Why i can't finish the arena in veteran ?
    Cause i bought a content that i cant finish...
    Why? Cause i have 400cp,and at the final boss spawn a lot of adds that damage you too much...why its so hard do a dps? Why so elitist this game?
    I want to do this and the game its bugged everywhere,no heavy atacks no light atacks the crushing hits what he wants!!!
    Why i have to wait a lot of time to finish this arena? Instead of doing content i have to lvl up my character only because of this ???

    Why is not calibrate to 300? Why so elititst?

    im sorry but no. the factor that u only have 400 cp is NOT why you dont succeed

    ok, probe it, doing the dg with 300cps or 400cps and show me the video... the arena need to be balance like vma
  • Luki420
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    Aleinzzs wrote: »
    It's bugging out, not summoning trash mobs every 25% then randomly summoning 3, i've died several times just sitting there repairing gear before the next attempt, just random explosions, and the frame drops in here are absurd, i'm sure i'ts just another whine post to most of yall, but this is absurd, the videos on PTS i didnt see half the problems going on. /rant off

    I had this problem, with the summoning, I hear her talk 1 time "bring someone in or something like that" and then I see 2 and sometimes 3, but it turned out that I'm the problem here, I was using orb skill and it was moving till it hits one of the chained ones and he breaks free, so watch out for your skills they might break them free
  • Luki420
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    MalEducado wrote: »

    ok, probe it, doing the dg with 300cps or 400cps and show me the video... the arena need to be balance like vma

    actually the cp doesn't matter much, if you are 300 or 400, I've finished vMA no death run while I was 330 cp, it's all practice and knowing mechs, and with the right gear.
  • MalEducado
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    Luki420 wrote: »
    MalEducado wrote: »

    ok, probe it, doing the dg with 300cps or 400cps and show me the video... the arena need to be balance like vma

    actually the cp doesn't matter much, if you are 300 or 400, I've finished vMA no death run while I was 330 cp, it's all practice and knowing mechs, and with the right gear.

    vma its calibrate for the cps you are running, this arena is calibrate to 810cp...like blackrose prisión
  • zvavi
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    MalEducado wrote: »
    Luki420 wrote: »
    MalEducado wrote: »

    ok, probe it, doing the dg with 300cps or 400cps and show me the video... the arena need to be balance like vma

    actually the cp doesn't matter much, if you are 300 or 400, I've finished vMA no death run while I was 330 cp, it's all practice and knowing mechs, and with the right gear.

    vma its calibrate for the cps you are running, this arena is calibrate to 810cp...like blackrose prisión

    So we are lowering our cp and going to do no death? Is there also requirement for class/spec so there will be no complaints that I chose class which is ez mode?
  • Xuhora
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    im actually tempted do so.... just out of curiosity...

    on that matter: is it really the case that vma scales to your current CP allocated? first time i hear about that...
  • zvavi
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    Xuhora wrote: »
    im actually tempted do so.... just out of curiosity...

    on that matter: is it really the case that vma scales to your current CP allocated? first time i hear about that...

    It doesn't. Neither does the new arena. To be more accurate I won't believe zos managed to do it.
    Edited by zvavi on November 11, 2020 2:20PM
  • Xuhora
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    zvavi wrote: »
    Xuhora wrote: »
    im actually tempted do so.... just out of curiosity...

    on that matter: is it really the case that vma scales to your current CP allocated? first time i hear about that...

    It doesn't. Neither does the new arena. To be more accurate I won't believe zos managed to do it.

    thats what i thought

    just another thread [Snip] about lously elitists....

    [Edited for minor bait]
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on November 11, 2020 3:55PM
  • thadjarvis
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    MalEducado wrote: »

    vma its calibrate for the cps you are running, this arena is calibrate to 810cp...like blackrose prisión

    You may be correct, but that would be veteran difficulty. There are multiple difficulty levels so a larger span of players can enjoy the content. Try knocking it down to normal and see if you enjoy the content.
    Edited by thadjarvis on November 11, 2020 2:28PM
  • Danksta
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    I got killed by a bone colossus just as I started the pull and it hadn't even spawned yet.
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  • Firstmep
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    Aleinzzs wrote: »
    It's bugging out, not summoning trash mobs every 25% then randomly summoning 3, i've died several times just sitting there repairing gear before the next attempt, just random explosions, and the frame drops in here are absurd, i'm sure i'ts just another whine post to most of yall, but this is absurd, the videos on PTS i didnt see half the problems going on. /rant off

    She basically "queues" her abilities, so if you push her fast she's going to line up multiple add spawns and the chain mechanic all at once.
    Terrible design, I suspect it's due to how long winded her actual attacks are and how little hp she has.
    Maybe one day Zos will do something to make the fight better, for now your best bet is it pull high aoe dmg and just skip as many mechanics as possible by pushing the boss to 10% hp.
  • Astrid
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    Why i can't finish the arena in veteran ?
    Cause i bought a content that i cant finish...
    Why? Cause i have 400cp,and at the final boss spawn a lot of adds that damage you too much...why its so hard do a dps? Why so elitist this game?
    I want to do this and the game its bugged everywhere,no heavy atacks no light atacks the crushing hits what he wants!!!
    Why i have to wait a lot of time to finish this arena? Instead of doing content i have to lvl up my character only because of this ???

    Why is not calibrate to 300? Why so elititst?

    Because you’re 300/400cp and missing out on massive amounts of mitigation from your red tree hence you’re being hit a lot harder. Light attacks are bugged for everyone, not just you. This fight feels like you either commit and totally burn her or you take it really slow and deal with a stupid amount of adds. You may have trouble with both due to lack of cp. It is veteran after all. That’s not elitist, you’ve just went into a difficulty mode that your character may not be ready for. Even if you’re doing everything right.
    Edited by Astrid on November 11, 2020 2:42PM
  • UrbanMonk
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    I'm gonna do it tonight with 300 CP and see if its really that big a difference. Ive done vMS with 350+CP and in Vatesharan, I've done it a few times but still not an expert there.
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  • Xuhora
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    allright, i just did my 300 CP run, now i just have to find out how to upload a youtube video, as this seems to be the easiest way just to link the video?

    i DO have to say, its stressful, really, but its doable, quod erat demonstrandum

    you will hear from me again if i manage to upload the run @MalEducado @Andoreaibara
  • Xuhora
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    allright, i managed to upload that video

    disclaimer: im not a youtuber and my native language is not english, so bare with me (or well dont, you demanded proof)
    i would adivse you to turn off the audio, because i am rambling some kind of an "explenation" alongside my playing, which is not the greatest. but if you want to hear what i say, go ahead. the whole video is unedited, so nobody can accuse me of cheating the CP-allocation (aaaaand i dont have the software for it)

    i used perfected false god on body, 1 domihaus helmet 5 mothers sorrow on frontbar and the pale order ring. i show the CPs in the beginning and again at the end.

    im looking forward to your response @MalEducado and @Andoreaibara

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=55rAtAFior4
    Edited by Xuhora on November 11, 2020 9:25PM
  • Jeirno
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    Xuhora wrote: »
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=55rAtAFior4allright, i managed to upload that video

    disclaimer: im not a youtuber and my native language is not english, so bare with me (or well dont, you demanded proof)
    i would adivse you to turn off the audio, because i am rambling some kind of an "explenation" alongside my playing, which is not the greatest. but if you want to hear what i say, go ahead. the whole video is unedited, so nobody can accuse me of cheating the CP-allocation (aaaaand i dont have the software for it)

    i used perfected false god on body, 1 domihaus helmet 5 mothers sorrow on frontbar and the pale order ring. i show the CPs in the beginning and again at the end.

    im looking forward to your response @MalEducado and @Andoreaibara

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55rAtAFior4

    I'm waiting patiently for these people to come up with so embarrassing excuses of how you cheated xd
  • Kurat
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    Xuhora wrote: »
    allright, i managed to upload that video

    disclaimer: im not a youtuber and my native language is not english, so bare with me (or well dont, you demanded proof)
    i would adivse you to turn off the audio, because i am rambling some kind of an "explenation" alongside my playing, which is not the greatest. but if you want to hear what i say, go ahead. the whole video is unedited, so nobody can accuse me of cheating the CP-allocation (aaaaand i dont have the software for it)

    i used perfected false god on body, 1 domihaus helmet 5 mothers sorrow on frontbar and the pale order ring. i show the CPs in the beginning and again at the end.

    im looking forward to your response @MalEducado and @Andoreaibara

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=55rAtAFior4

    Now try the same cp with stam and no ring. You cheesed it with op ring and ez mode mag build.
    There's no other content in the game that was designed only possible with certain set and builds. [Snip]

    [Edited for bait]
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on November 12, 2020 1:53PM
  • tmbrinks
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    could you imagine the rage if it was as difficult (comparatively) as Maelstrom was at launch... :joy:

    It was a while before anybody got the no death in there, not like the day one no-death, speed run, no-sigil clears we have to Vateshran :smile:

    They don't make content like they used to :disappointed:

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  • Xuhora
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    Kurat wrote: »
    Xuhora wrote: »
    allright, i managed to upload that video

    disclaimer: im not a youtuber and my native language is not english, so bare with me (or well dont, you demanded proof)
    i would adivse you to turn off the audio, because i am rambling some kind of an "explenation" alongside my playing, which is not the greatest. but if you want to hear what i say, go ahead. the whole video is unedited, so nobody can accuse me of cheating the CP-allocation (aaaaand i dont have the software for it)

    i used perfected false god on body, 1 domihaus helmet 5 mothers sorrow on frontbar and the pale order ring. i show the CPs in the beginning and again at the end.

    im looking forward to your response @MalEducado and @Andoreaibara

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=55rAtAFior4

    Now try the same cp with stam and no ring. You cheesed it with op ring and ez mode mag build.
    There's no other content in the game that was designed only possible with certain set and builds. [Snip]

    [Edited for bait]

    ohhh come on! allready a comment on how i "cheesed" with EZ-MODE and OP-Build? its available for everyone! slap on the ring on your staminachar! give me one, and only one good reason NOT to equip this ring?
    besides that: it was not the point to do a cp 300 run with EVERY char, as i even discussed in the video. the point is and was to show that CP300 is doable!

    @tmbrinks yep you are totally right! i remember taking 2 weeks to clear vMA the first time, and another 3 months to do it in one sitting. the forumwarriors against "elitists" would be all over the place by now. this was my 5th run ever in vVA. absolutly no comparison to how vMA used to be
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on November 12, 2020 1:54PM
  • Mr_Nobody
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    I did flawless runs all evening on my Magplar with pvp sets like War Maidens. Didnt even run jesus beam. All at around 30 minutes or faster with smoke breaks between bosses. The last boss is a cake.

    Do blue/green shadows first and melt the lady.

    I could rant about not getting the bow, but oh well...
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  • OlumoGarbag
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    Kurat wrote: »
    Xuhora wrote: »
    allright, i managed to upload that video

    disclaimer: im not a youtuber and my native language is not english, so bare with me (or well dont, you demanded proof)
    i would adivse you to turn off the audio, because i am rambling some kind of an "explenation" alongside my playing, which is not the greatest. but if you want to hear what i say, go ahead. the whole video is unedited, so nobody can accuse me of cheating the CP-allocation (aaaaand i dont have the software for it)

    i used perfected false god on body, 1 domihaus helmet 5 mothers sorrow on frontbar and the pale order ring. i show the CPs in the beginning and again at the end.

    im looking forward to your response @MalEducado and @Andoreaibara

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=55rAtAFior4

    Now try the same cp with stam and no ring. You cheesed it with op ring and ez mode mag build.
    There's no other content in the game that was designed only possible with certain set and builds. [Snip]

    [Edited for bait]

    [Snip]
    There are more then enough easy mode stam builds out there. And he took the time to run a low cp arena.
    THE ARENA IS DESIGNED TO BE A CHALLENGE EVEN FOR SOME VET PLAYERS SINCE THERE IS LITERALLY NO OTHER CHALLENGING SOLO CONTENT IN THE GAME.

    Seriously if you struggle with this try normal first, improve, come back and eventually complete it. This game needs challenging content since 90% of the game is already super easy.

    [Edited for removed content]
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on November 12, 2020 1:55PM
    class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling
  • zvavi
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    Kurat wrote: »

    Now try the same cp with stam and no ring. You cheesed it with op ring and ez mode mag build.
    There's no other content in the game that was designed only possible with certain set and builds. [Snip]

    [Edited for bait]

    He was mostly melee. So sorry m8 I am against you in this one.
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on November 12, 2020 1:55PM
  • stefj68
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    my experience biggest issue is magicka/stamina conservation... on the mino pass u need vigor a lot to roll dodge... etc if you equip sets that reduces your main ressources you loosing dps, making last round a little tougher... still think the orb that we collect should grant a little extra regen on top of the main ressources, so we won't have to run this with fg, vo, or other sets like that... but thats my 2cents

    when you required to have specifics sets to run down something it seems like a bad design for me...

    when you have elitist gear to run easy that arena you won't find any pieces of gear that would actually be nice enough to put on your build full time, all this gear is underwelming for me and im not even good geared...

    but well its fun to run, refreshing, only things worth for me their is achievements farming!
  • Firstmep
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    Kurat wrote: »
    Xuhora wrote: »
    allright, i managed to upload that video

    disclaimer: im not a youtuber and my native language is not english, so bare with me (or well dont, you demanded proof)
    i would adivse you to turn off the audio, because i am rambling some kind of an "explenation" alongside my playing, which is not the greatest. but if you want to hear what i say, go ahead. the whole video is unedited, so nobody can accuse me of cheating the CP-allocation (aaaaand i dont have the software for it)

    i used perfected false god on body, 1 domihaus helmet 5 mothers sorrow on frontbar and the pale order ring. i show the CPs in the beginning and again at the end.

    im looking forward to your response @MalEducado and @Andoreaibara

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=55rAtAFior4

    Now try the same cp with stam and no ring. You cheesed it with op ring and ez mode mag build.
    There's no other content in the game that was designed only possible with certain set and builds. [Snip]

    [Edited for bait]

    Or the people that can't do it or complain about the difficulty can change their builds to be able to do it?
    My first run, with a mostly single target oriented stamcro build with no heal ring or essences was a struggle, altho I managed to do it the end.
    Than I changed my build to more aoe focus, got the ring and now it's a walk in the park.
    Also 300 cp players who can't complete it:
    It's not just Beacuse of Stat disadvantage, but also less gameplay experience.
    You can have 300cp within a few weeks of starting the game, maybe don't expect to have an easy time completing the latest endgame content in veteran difficulty without the right build straight away?

    Zos is terrible at difficulty pacing, but they tend to (at least try to) make newer content somewhat more difficult.

    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on November 12, 2020 1:55PM
  • Austinseph1
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    Veteran should be hard, people used to spend weeks clearing vMA and there is nothing wrong with practicing and tweaking till you succeed. To be fair the pale order ring is completely broken on every one of my builds and I got the trifecta on my second attempt on entering the place... Without it to here would be a real challenge. In a year when people have gotten comfortable with the arena the difficulty will melt away, and they may even nerf the ring into the ground.
  • Xuhora
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    it is true that the ring is pretty essential, but then again, it is available for every player, so why not use it? its no exploit or "cheese" its just working with what you have been given.
    Im sure if i would attempt to do a video on a stamina class without the ring there will be others saying, but X stamina Class is much better than Y stamina class, or some one would complain about the CPs and what not.
    it is as you said: people tend to want everything with little effort, that why there will allways be someone complaining on something.
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