Theorycrafting Discussion - Endgame PVE DPS - S&B/Bow StamDK

ffyre · November 2020

Hey folks, looking for thoughts on sets and rotation for pushing enough DPS to do some end game trial/dungeon content with a S&B dd - just trying to think and play outside of the box to rekindle some fun in the game. haha

I'm thinking you'd probably want to do some combo of Deadly Strike and Relequen, maybe with Hundings S&B and Masters bow? Maybe Selene, Relequen, VO, and Masters and just lose the last two VO bonuses when on front bar...

I figure as far as a rotation is concerned, you could do something like the below, although I admit I'm not sure how it would sustain or work - especially the difference between Deep Slash or Stone Giant (which I believe would be the better option if sustain is okay).

Flames of Oblivion > LA > Arrow Barrage > LA > Poison Injection > LA > Noxious Breath > LA > SWAP > Reverberating Bash > LA > Venom Claw > LA > Deep Slash (OR Stone Giant x 3) > LA > Consuming Trap > LA > Reverberating Bash > LA > Barbed Trap > LA > SWAP

Anyone have any thoughts on set improvements or anything else that could make this fun and viable? You lose some really good passives by skipping out on 2H or DW, but I think you can make up for some of it...

zvavi · November 2020

Just pick a class with a spammable, use the class the same as you would with dual wield, just with divines shield instead. The only difference you will have is lack of passives.

Stinkyremy · November 2020

I made a MagDK with sword and board using pelinals aptitute. I recently unmade the build but it was fun as heck.
So the theory of it was that while I was stacking mag damage, my sword and board was not weak because of pelinals. I was only using heroic slash and shield charge on s&b skill line.

ke.sardenb14_ESO · November 2020

I actually got kept my sword and board for Advancing Yokeda a few years back on my Stam Sorc, with relequin on the body. This was back when the spammable for DK was noxious breath so I was happy with that rotation. On the sorc is did pretty decent damage, I think a little shy of 35k on 3m(my average with 2h somewhere around 41k)
I would definitely keep poison injection, and maybe use master back bar to see since that was what I used. I can try a rotation on the DK when I get home though.

lolo_01b16_ESO · November 2020

I'd use power slam as spammable instead of deep slash. Power slam is cheaper, does more damage and currently deep slash prevents the boss from being affected by the minor brittle debuff.

El_Borracho · November 2020

Not commenting on your build one way or another, but if you plan on bringing a S&B DPS into a vet trial pug or DLC dungeon pug, you are probably going to get kicked. Not advocating this, not saying its right or wrong, just pointing out the reality of this game

ke.sardenb14_ESO · November 2020

Flames of Oblivion > LA > Arrow Barrage > LA > Poison Injection > LA > Noxious Breath > LA > SWAP > Reverberating Bash > LA > Venom Claw > LA > Deep Slash (OR Stone Giant x 3) > LA > Consuming Trap > LA > Reverberating Bash > LA > Barbed Trap > LA > SWAP

Anyone have any thoughts on set improvements or anything else that could make this fun and viable? You lose some really good passives by skipping out on 2H or DW, but I think you can make up for some of it...[/quote]

So I did my test with velidrith, AY S&B+ blood thirsty jewelry, p.maelstrom bow, and nor.relequin divine on body(i believe the one hand was charge and the shield was divines).
My rotation was beast trap>endless hail(for better dot timing)>Noxious Breath>swap>venom claw>power slam (stronger bash morph)×9>swap

I did not use flame of Oblivion because I was to lazy and cheap to morph it from cauterize. The rotation averaged about 32k on 3m which was not terrible at all, but it was a monster to sustain(and I was a redguard).

I compared this to my 2H are rotation id immediately after where the sets were still the same, but the spammable was Stonegiant, and the reverse slice at 30%. This did about 41k with slightly better sustain. But I'm sure you're aware that there would be a difference.

El_Borracho wrote: »

Not commenting on your build one way or another, but if you plan on bringing a S&B DPS into a vet trial pug or DLC dungeon pug, you are probably going to get kicked. Not advocating this, not saying its right or wrong, just pointing out the reality of this game

This is probably very true sad to say, but as long as you do not steal, 7/10 groups will not say or do anything. I say this knowing I've seen S&B dps in trials before with no issues on multiple occasions.