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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

A few questions for my Nightblade experts.

Sleepwalker
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My nightblade is of the healer/warlock variety, using a resto staff of destro staff (whichever I'm feeling that day) to deal mostly single target at range, yet still remain capable of mopping up the one or two that may make it close to me. I've recently gotten Drain Power on my bar; haven't morphed it yet, but I'm likely going with Sap Essence for the heal. There are a few things that I'm fuzzy on, so I was hoping someone has some confirmations on some skills available to me:

1. An easy one (I think). The Sap Essence morph takes away the damage component of Drain Power. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it will not take away the weapon damage buff, yes?

2. I have been toying with Shadowy Disguise lately. The 70% critical strike chance will apply to Assassination skills, such as Strife, correct? I believe that it will, as the tool tip doesn't give me any reason to believe that it won't, but I'm not sure I'm seeing that in game. Any one 100% sure on this?

3. An extension from the question directly above: If the critical strike chance does apply, this will in turn increase the amount of healing received from Strife/Funnel Health, correct?

4. I'd like to give myself a little more AoE capability for funsies. (I don't want to discuss what class or build works best for AoE, just some class specifics.) So, let's talk about Teleport Strike, which I'd like to use to put me in range for Sap Essence and Elemental Blockade. I like the look of its morphs. Lotus Fan seems like a good start to the AoE action with the AoE bleed effect, however, can anyone confirm that Ambush will only affect the next amount of damage on the enemy that it hit or will it apply to the damage of any "next attack" of my choice? (Hope I'm being clear with this one.)

Any and all assistance will be greatly appreciated and probably get you a rate up. :)
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Grayfield - V2 Breton Nightblade
Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
  • DGVish
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    Strife does not benefit from Shadowy Disguise, Sap Essence still gives more weapon damage, Ambush is YOUR NEXT attack on THAT TARGET @+30% dmg.

    Lotus Fan>Drain Power>Elemental Blockade... it's hard to find better AoE in the game right now.
  • Sleepwalker
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    Hmm, too bad about Strife, but yay to everything else! Thanks for the reply. :)
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    Grayfield - V2 Breton Nightblade
    Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
  • Medwin
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    Sap essence still does damage but it does not heal you, only allies around you. (unless they changed it)
    Edited by Medwin on April 18, 2014 8:38PM
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  • Sleepwalker
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    Oh really? Didn't realize that. Well that changes things a little I guess. Or maybe not. Still going to get it for group healing, and since it fits so well into AoE grinding and all... Meh, still got resto staff and funnel health as backup, so I should be good. Thanks!
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    Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
  • Bhakura
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    just hijackin thread, but do you find groups easy as healer for dungeons, got a nightblade healer myself and everyone is like youre heal? but you are nightblade?
  • zamiel
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    DGVish wrote: »
    Lotus Fan>Drain Power>Elemental Blockade... it's hard to find better AoE in the game right now.
    Well, there's Lotus fan/Drain Power/Elemental Ring.
    Or just Drain Power/Elemental Ring/Elemental Ring.
  • Yelgis
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    Drain Power is pretty awesome combined with either destro staff aoe option. If you go for the morph that increases targets it is up to a 99% weapon damage increase (if you hit 9 targets). That is pretty crazy.

    The bonus is large enough that you can even justify throwing Siphoning Attacks into your AOE setup so that each skill has a 10% chance to restore 15% mag/stam. This lets you AOE even more.

  • Sleepwalker
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    Bhakura wrote: »
    just hijackin thread, but do you find groups easy as healer for dungeons, got a nightblade healer myself and everyone is like youre heal? but you are nightblade?

    Yeah, some people are still close-minded about the classes and what they can do. Fools... Yes, healing is very much effective in the hands of an intelligent nightblade. The synergy between some of our class skills and Resto staff is great, and we have two ultimates that can be morphed to heal. We can do it all.

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    Grayfield - V2 Breton Nightblade
    Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
  • Sleepwalker
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    Yelgis wrote: »
    ...The bonus is large enough that you can even justify throwing Siphoning Attacks into your AOE setup so that each skill has a 10% chance to restore 15% mag/stam. This lets you AOE even more.

    Hmm, will the magicka return from Siphoning Strikes combine with the Resto Staff's innate magicka returning properties? That'd be some insane regeneration!

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    Grayfield - V2 Breton Nightblade
    Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
  • templar_von_midgard
    Sap Essence actually heals the caster too!
    I morphed it yesterday and realised that it is just the best and maybe only AoE attack that heals and buffs you while doing damage. Though that heal is pretty ridicilous, when attacking 3+ monsters.
  • Sleepwalker
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    Yep, confirmed via combat meter, Sap Essence does heal the caster! Thanks. :)
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    Grayfield - V2 Breton Nightblade
    Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
  • Teloran
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    I've heard that Sap Essence is bugged to not scale properly with the number of targets. Regardless, I actually preferred the other morph as the weapon damage will translate into more healing with your resto spells.

    As for Strife and Shadowy Disguise, it currently doesn't work because Shadowy Disguise only gives you the crit bonus for the duration of the invisibility and Strife breaks invisibility before it deals damage. Shadowy Disguise does work on other spell-crit abilities including Soul Shred.
  • Sleepwalker
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    Figures. Hope that's fixed at some point. Not sure why spells can't benefit from this.
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    Grayfield - V2 Breton Nightblade
    Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
  • GwaynLoki
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    Hmm, will the magicka return from Siphoning Strikes combine with the Resto Staff's innate magicka returning properties? That'd be some insane regeneration!

    Considering the speed I fill up my magicka wile using these 2, I am sure they do.
  • Kyubi_3002b16_ESO
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    Well if sap essence actualy worked 100% as intended wed likely be on par if not better then guardian for party healing when face against multi target. Funny thing is even with half bugged class stuff we still make very good healers... just you wait when they fix those glitches.

    The bloody hilarious thing is that spamming sap essence provide a lot of ultimate as well so you could actualy run around with devouring swarm and nuke everything constantly while also healing (already doing it to some extent altrought it could be infinitively better if it was fixed)
    Edited by Kyubi_3002b16_ESO on April 22, 2014 3:47PM
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  • Sleepwalker
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    The bloody hilarious thing is that spamming sap essence provide a lot of ultimate as well so you could actualy run around with devouring swarm and nuke everything constantly while also healing (already doing it to some extent altrought it could be infinitively better if it was fixed)

    Once again, you're my hero, Kyubi! Two more vampire levels and I'm trying this... oh yes, I'm trying this!

    >:)

    "QUIT CRYIN'! Do some pushups or something!"

    Grayfield - V2 Breton Nightblade
    Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
  • Kyubi_3002b16_ESO
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    well its two ult everytime you damage a target with a siphoning spell go damage 6 target :neutral_face:
    Edited by Kyubi_3002b16_ESO on April 22, 2014 5:26PM
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    One bow to conquer the world and in darkness drown it...

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  • Sleepwalker
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    Well yeah, but I don't have the ultimate unlocked yet. Just picked up vampirism at level 44. :) When I have it, yes, I will do that.
    "QUIT CRYIN'! Do some pushups or something!"

    Grayfield - V2 Breton Nightblade
    Windspike - 40 Bosmer Sorceror
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