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Walk up behind an NPC. Nobody else around. Hidden. (Aware)(Aware)(DETECTED)(Aware)
Pixative
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After searching for a bit, I couldn't find anyone else talking about this. Very often I will sneak, and the instant hidden appears, it is immediately replaced by full detection. When there is apparently no possible source for that detection. Very often when I pickpocket I will have to shimmy back and forth between positions to get rid of (Aware), often I have to to silly things like stand practically inside the NPC. This happens as much on my level 4 pickpocket as a fresh character, and as much on my medium armor char with the sneak passive as without.
What's wrong. Am I doing it wrong, and if so, how do I do it better, or are there just bugs? Do you just randomly get detected from behind? Is the NPC's model not making it obvious where "behind" is?
What's wrong. Am I doing it wrong, and if so, how do I do it better, or are there just bugs? Do you just randomly get detected from behind? Is the NPC's model not making it obvious where "behind" is?
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Pixative✭✭I should add I know things like mudcrabs can detect you and I'm reasonably certain that is not the cause, unless there are also invisible mudcrabs hidden inside people's houses.0
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Stellarvorous✭✭✭Sometimes if you go into sneak and get close to a npc to fast their detection will pull you out also in locked houses you get those 59k npcs who seem to have a better sense of detection then average ones outside in cities
also sometimes if its really laggy or your ping is high it plays with sneak why i have no idea but when im lagging and i try sneaking around in cities or in delves i deffiently get caught more0 -
Calm_Fury✭✭✭✭✭I honestly never understood how that system works. It just feels so random. Also when you have a huge success percentage and then when you click the button it immediately drops the percentage and fails. It is just so clunky for me.1 -
Nord_Raseri✭✭✭✭✭
✭Positional desync, probably. The game is strife with it. You're screen tells you that you/npc/other player are in one spot while server thinks you/npc/player are in another. Been a problem for a long while now.Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.4 -
GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭After searching for a bit, I couldn't find anyone else talking about this. Very often I will sneak, and the instant hidden appears, it is immediately replaced by full detection. When there is apparently no possible source for that detection. Very often when I pickpocket I will have to shimmy back and forth between positions to get rid of (Aware), often I have to to silly things like stand practically inside the NPC. This happens as much on my level 4 pickpocket as a fresh character, and as much on my medium armor char with the sneak passive as without.
What's wrong. Am I doing it wrong, and if so, how do I do it better, or are there just bugs? Do you just randomly get detected from behind? Is the NPC's model not making it obvious where "behind" is?
Sneaking/Sneak Detection/Thievery/Assassinations in ESO are extremely clunky and, at times, feel broken. You can tell not enough care was put into the details of the various sneak-related systems because there are numerous issues. Just a few that bug me:- Spotty detection issues like those you are describing.
- A percentage fluctuating pickpocket mini-game that raises/drops based on random hidden timers instead of quality of approach to the target.
- Blade of Woe and Vampire feeding being mapped to the same buttons.
- Wood Elf racial detection passive nonsense that is useless in PVE.
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Finedaible✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm almost certain these random detection issues for stealth are often caused by wonky tracking of character placement and direction. On your screen an NPC (or more often a player in PvP) will be facing one way, while on the server they may already be facing a different direction. You can notice this pretty often with Nightblade Master Assassin passive and the stun from Veiled Strike when 'flanking' an enemy. Basically, I think it is most likely some form of desync and/or lag. I've been witnessed committing crimes from behind walls on entirely different building floors before.1 -
out51d3r✭✭✭✭I don't know the exact cause of this, but I experience it frequently. It seems I sometimes get a "bugged stealth" like this, where I should clearly be stealthed but I bounce in and out of stealth for some reason. It happens when I first stealth- either I I get it as soon as I stealth, or I don't get it at all. If I destealth for a second or so and then restealth, it usually resolves the problem.2
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Everstorm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I honestly never understood how that system works. It just feels so random. Also when you have a huge success percentage and then when you click the button it immediately drops the percentage and fails. It is just so clunky for me.
After years I still have no idea what triggers the green status on pickpocketing.2