I hate getting to one of the Blacksmith Surveys in Malabal Tor, so I always just log out and in to reset that one. The rest of them, I can't say that I've ever had a problem running far enough away.

Remain in place and type in zone /reloadui.

Mike0987 wrote: »

Remain in place and type in zone /reloadui.

I'm 99% sure this does not work.

This shows exactly why this needs to be revamped.

Having to figure out the exact distance to run or put load on the system by logging in/out, house viewing, etc. is ludicrous. I should be able to group them all up and collect them at once. At least let me select them in the system and have it respawn or give a note that a node is uncollected and it won't respawn which happens at times when I miss one and try running out and back.

Also keep in mind that the slot will again be taken when you get a single one of that version (location/kind), so saying you need to do them regularly to keep the bank less full doesn't work.

I am starting the pile them up now buying mats rather than running the surveys. I would rather do 20+ at a time than do 4+ 5 different times (or more).

This is another quality of life improvement that is really needed.

Why bother running away?

It is actually quicker to logout and then log back in!
This will not work for Treasure Maps tho.

Malborn66
PC-EU

etchedpixels wrote: »

That depends on the speed buffs you have. Not having any really insane speed buffs I normally do the easy ones by bouncing back and forth between wayshrines close to some, and for the slower but worth doing ones I fold it into my crafting cycle - toon 1 craft, collector harvests, toon 2 crafts, collector harvests, toon 3 crafts etc

And then there are a few that are just so irritating to get to they go in the bin 8)

More logouts/logins? Yech.

Feric51 wrote: »

Malborn66 wrote: »

Why bother running away?

It is actually quicker to logout and then log back in!
This will not work for Treasure Maps tho.

Malborn66
PC-EU

On XB-NA my logout/logout turnaround time is easily 2+ minutes and that's if I don't get stuck in an endless load screen and have to dashboard which easily doubles that time. With the Wild Hunt ring on my survey collector I can run back and forth within an average of about 15 seconds.

For the ones like the Wrothgar jewelry survey on the cliff I just travel to the Wrothgar house I don't own and immediately exit. Less chance of endless loading screens than logging out.

Agreed.

There are only 1 or 2 surveys where this might actually be a time saver (The wrothgar jewelry, although I try and pair it with the wrothgar alchemy nearby) and the Northern Elsweyr blacksmithing (which I will actually go into the delve nearby)

There are a multitude of surveys where you literally only have to travel a few seconds in any direction to reset it, and I also feel like many of them got even shorter when they did the asset redo that made us re-download the whole game a few patches back.

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

We still should not have to fight against the game to do things like this. It should be a simple part of collecting them once you have them, not figuring ways to make the spot reset in ways that vary each time.

The easiest way would be to simply stack them and let me collect them all at once. Allowing their selection to respawn the nodes at least would also work, though I would prefer the former.

While I understand your premise.

I also understand the game's way of doing it, as a way to slow down the process. Since daily writs are already one of the best sources of income and resources, doing too much to adjust that could throw the economy's balance off.

The duplicates are only a result of doing a whole train of crafters, or by not collecting them for a multitude of days. So it's possible to not to have to ever 'reset' a node by collecting the surveys immediately upon receipt each day. (While I wouldn't do that, since is WAAAAAY more efficient to collect them en masse, even if I have to run back and forth)

The other issue is what do you do with Alchemy nodes, where you know when you run up what you're going to get? You could just run away and reset the survey until you get 4 or 5 (or even 6) corn flower nodes because those are the reagents that are worth the most. While you can still do that now for a single survey, it's significantly more time consuming when you have a stack of 20.

I don't disagree with your premise. But I also don't think it's feasible. You'd be much more subject to the whims of "RNG" if you're collecting 20 of the same survey as to if you're going to get an 18 or 20 out of your node... or if it's doubled, in which case are all 20 doubled?

I fail to see why this is bad or an insult to those who suffer through things now.

You could argue that the recent sticker book is an insult to those who farmed their gear, especially since you can now get whatever trait you want (if I follow it correctly).

You could also argue that multi-crafting was an insult to those who did it the old tedious way. (And use that as a reason to not allow multi-fileting fish.)

Those who did it earlier got the benefits earlier.

And using this as a gate is improper as well. I earned all that I am filling my bank with. I can spend hours playing the game (leveling characters, seeking skillpoints, etc.) or I can spend hours gathering surveys. That is not a good tradeoff for content players.

The game changes and tedious things get made simpler. Not doing that may not kill a game by itself, but can contribute to a game's death.

What I've noticed is that for most zones you get on average N surveys of the same type over 6 months if you have N characters doing the writs every day for that period. For some DLC zones there seems to be a higher multiplier, where you get ~1.5xN surveys ex. Northern Elsweyr, Western Skyrim, Vvardenfell.

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Gonna ask a on/off topic question in the thread instead of starting a new one.

Does anyone have the actual number of total different surveys in the game now?
Would be nice to know if possibly after stickerbook where most of us will have an abundance of space if we would be able to get an or X amount of mule toons to have space for every single location, meaning stacking every single survey and literally only ever needing to go do them if we need that mats rather than need the space!

130 unique surveys

5 x 3 x 2 = 30 (3 of each type in Craglorn & Wrothgar)
5 x 2 x 1 = 10 (2 of each type in Coldharbour)
5 x 1 x 15 = 75 (1 of each type in each base game zone)
5 x 1 x 3 = 15 (1 of each type in Chapter zones, Vvardenfell, Elsweyr, Greymoor)

I already hold all of my surveys on one character that is dedicated to collecting them.

Shouldn't most of the 5s in there be 6 instead? Clothing, Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Alchemy, Enchanting, Jewelry.

Some general speed ideas:

• Ring of the Wild Hunt is becoming more accessible for alts due to reconstruction.
• Thief characters are good for moving quickly without fighting.
• So are Stage 4 vampires.
• An alternative to logging out and in is to preview a house you don't own or travel to somebody else's house, then leave it again.

And I find that Lost Treasure gives me a pretty good idea as to whether I've gone far enough away from the location for the nodes to respawn.

If you have gathered 1500 surveys at one go you should have pretty good idea of each node and how far to run. My tactic is if you have a road close by you should start with that at as it usually seems to be the point what resets the nodes.

After that it's just testing and running. Most are fast but there are some annoying ones too.