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What is your preferred Houseguest type.
Raideen
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Just a non scientific query into what forum posters would like to see in game in regards to Houseguest type.
What is your preferred Houseguest type. 36 votes
Premade Houseguests like we see are being released right now. Examples are the lady from the event, the cat and the guard.
5%
2 votes
Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.
41%
15 votes
Both: But I lean towards Premade Houseguests.
8%
3 votes
Both: But I lean towards Custom Houseguests.
25%
9 votes
Both: I want both equally.
19%
7 votes
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Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.I just want a harem of Bosmer wenches to serve my every need.0 -
NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Premade Houseguests like we see are being released right now. Examples are the lady from the event, the cat and the guard.How would they even implement custom ones?[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!1 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »How would they even implement custom ones?
By using the same toolset already available in game to make your character.2 -
Teridax941✭✭✭Both: I want both equally.Premade with established characters that we've met, maybe one or two that we haven't.
Custom for our own characters/alts, the ability to create "family" for our characters would be great as well.0 -
ghastley✭✭✭✭✭
✭Premade Houseguests like we see are being released right now. Examples are the lady from the event, the cat and the guard.I want premade, just so that the databases don't get swamped with all those custom details. You know it would have to made up for somewhere else, like less furnishing slots.0 -
Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I want my other characters as houseguests, and I can initiate trade with them and swap equipment as if they were a container without having to log out on one, log in the other, and then log in again on the first to retrieve the equipment. And then repeat the process when I forget the shield again.-
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The more meaningful question would be dealing with the added cost for a customized house guest then the added cost for a token to changing their appearance when we fancy such a thing.
Of course, people would prefer a choice of a Porche or Mercedes over a Nisan or Volkswagen? I think the answer is obvious until one tosses in the price tags.0 -
NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Premade Houseguests like we see are being released right now. Examples are the lady from the event, the cat and the guard.NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »How would they even implement custom ones?
By using the same toolset already available in game to make your character.
Because that works the same and won't be adding a lot of data usage or anything...
No matter what I want, I try to wish for things that is more plausible, so I go for varied premades. Would it be nice with custom ones? Yes, but I don't see how that could be added to the game well, and let's not even think of the cost.
[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!0 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.The more meaningful question would be dealing with the added cost for a customized house guest then the added cost for a token to changing their appearance when we fancy such a thing.
Of course, people would prefer a choice of a Porche or Mercedes over a Nisan or Volkswagen? I think the answer is obvious until one tosses in the price tags.
Price tags are irrelevant and not part of the discussion.
The fact is that ZOS will earn more money by allowing the creation of custom Houseguests because if done property using a similar system that is used to create our characters in game, premade houseguests would drive sales of already paid for systems in game. That is the most preferred outcome, to drive revenue on assets that have already been accounted for.
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Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »How would they even implement custom ones?
By using the same toolset already available in game to make your character.
Because that works the same and won't be adding a lot of data usage or anything...
No matter what I want, I try to wish for things that is more plausible, so I go for varied premades. Would it be nice with custom ones? Yes, but I don't see how that could be added to the game well, and let's not even think of the cost.
Custom NCP's are more plausible. They are certainly more desired. More desire = more sales and when sales = money, its a no brainer.
The only cost is creating the interface to create custom NPC's as houseguests. While this will cost more than an intern making houseguests with the same premade assets, it will also generate more revenue for a number of reasons.
• Premade NPC's are more desirable to the housing community
• Premade NPC's (if done properly) would pull from the same assets the customer has purchased. Outfits, motifs, costumes, hair styles etc. Those would see an increase in sales because for the first time in game people may need an outfit (such as a bakers outfit) for a custom NPC. Men who do not play female characters would see a reason to have a dress now for a female custom NPC and the reverse is true for women who do not play male characters.
A greater investment into this system will see a greater return. More net income will be generated from a custom NPC houseguest system than a premade houseguest system.4 -
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✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.I like the idea of making people for homes.You could make gardeners and chefs and maids and family members and friends. I would be more likely to spend money on being able to make my own house guests instead of the ones already made up."Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes3 -
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✭Both: But I lean towards Custom Houseguests.I'm interested in both. Of course I want to create my own NPC's, customize them, and even dress up my alts. Also, though, I am very interested in the side characters that are being data mined, in hopes that some of my favorites will be added in the future (such as Freiwen), or main characters (such as Darien). Generic premades are alright, as long as the costs stay low and we can eventually (at least) dress them to our liking (including dye selections). I'm honestly still pretty impressed that they come with voiced dialogue.
I have to admit, though, it doesn't look promising for the addition of fully customizable NPCs if they are giving us premades now, given that if they were to give us fully customizable ones, there would be no reason whatsoever for us to pay for premades. So, I don't think this will ever happen.
I think, at most, we might get costume and personality custimization for the premades somewhere down the line. And maybe they will let us use our alts, which is like having a customizable NPC, except limited in number based on character slots.0 -
M_Volsung✭✭✭✭✭I want an Argonian maid."In the Deep Halls, Far from Men;
Forsaken Red Mountain, Twisted Kin;
Hail the Mind, Hail the Stone;
Dwarven Pride, Stronger than Bone"
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VoidCommander✭✭✭✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.Pre-made house guests that we can gear up with collected costumes.0
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✭✭✭✭✭Both: But I lean towards Custom Houseguests.Fully customizable NPCs couldn’t have voiced dialogue, so I would expect there would still be demand for both. I would still get both and use then for different purposes and houses, probably, depending on what all the options are.
I’d love to have NPCs where I could write their whole dialogue tree!
On that note, I’d love to be able to write my own notes, journal scraps, etc., for visitors to find — I think it would be fun to tell a story or create a mystery with a house, similar to what is done with the delves! Edited by Araneae6537 on November 12, 2020 6:05PM1 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.Sylvermynx wrote: »Other - my alts.
This would be covered under "custom Houseguests". I imagine a setting that allows you to import the look of your alt.
I would prefer something that allows us to place alts, and if we are on a particular alt and in the same instance, that the NPC alt goes away, but that is just extra work on the ability to already create the "alt" with custom NPC.1 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.VoidCommander wrote: »Pre-made house guests that we can gear up with collected costumes.
So...custom.1 -
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✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.The more meaningful question would be dealing with the added cost for a customized house guest then the added cost for a token to changing their appearance when we fancy such a thing.
Of course, people would prefer a choice of a Porche or Mercedes over a Nisan or Volkswagen? I think the answer is obvious until one tosses in the price tags.
Irrelevant in a game where people spend a lot of money on pixilated fluff. Edit: maybe not entirely irrelevant, there's a line somwhere in terms of what people are willing to spend, but that line seems farther away in this game than any other I've played.Edited by Nord_Raseri on October 13, 2020 7:50PMVeit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.1 -
frompa✭✭Both: But I lean towards Custom Houseguests.Target dummies should have an option to change mode from target to house guest. Target mode they would remain stationary and take attacks, house mode they could use the pathing the system like other guests and pets and mounts.2
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✭Both: But I lean towards Custom Houseguests.
Oh hell yesAraneae6537 wrote: »I’d love to have NPCs where I could right their whole dialogue tree!
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Mix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Both: But I lean towards Premade Houseguests.I think premade, simply because I would like the larger dialogue (so more like khajiit or historian) selection. Also, I would like some of our recurring NPC friends as guests in the future. (and Remains-Silent
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I love the idea of customizable because I like to theme homes and getting enough of the correct race or role for a house could be difficult. I love argonians and would love a couple to place at my Stay-Moist tending guars or just chilling, but I am not sure how many races/genders/roles combos we will get and they do have to voice them all which could mean the "custom" ones would have a rather generic dialogue tree.0 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Custom Houseguests where you can create the NCP (look, attire, voice etc). Examples would be making your sig others toon in your home, or your alt in your home.I think premade, simply because I would like the larger dialogue (so more like khajiit or historian) selection. Also, I would like some of our recurring NPC friends as guests in the future. (and Remains-Silent )
I love the idea of customizable because I like to theme homes and getting enough of the correct race or role for a house could be difficult. I love argonians and would love a couple to place at my Stay-Moist tending guars or just chilling, but I am not sure how many races/genders/roles combos we will get and they do have to voice them all which could mean the "custom" ones would have a rather generic dialogue tree.
Not necessarily. They could offer the voice scripts as packs. There is no reason that premade voice packs can not be sold and used for custom NPC's.
Obviously custom stuff is out of the question. But basic things like guards, bakers, armor smiths, (crafters in general) bankers etc can all be taken from already available assets in game.
Think of it like this. You could apply a character style with your custom NPC. Guard would use whatever dialog they use for a guard. A librarian would use whatever dialog they use for a librarian. The voices themselves may not be able to be customized as the lines are spoken and recorded, but we could still have that NPC character style to one you created.
The only thing that stands in the way of custom NPC's is ZOS desire to invest into the UI/coding. Most of the art assets, voice assets, rigging assets etc are already made.
I imagine they are going the premade houseguest route because a college intern can cobble together assets from the game to make something for essentially free, and then ZOS can charge for it.1
