The new healing mythic is utter trash

Renegader
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Change my mind
  • kathandira
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    Change my mind

    Could you provide a bit more feedback? Why do you believe it is trash?
    PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc
  • Flaaklypa
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    If you are referring to pale order, its still quite good in pvp and solo.

    If you are referring to the 5 ult regen mythic, yeah i agree, its bad
  • RPGplayer13579
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    What's the name of this thing? Or its stats?
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Here is the official thread for the new mythic items:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/546400/pts-update-28-feedback-thread-for-new-item-sets-mythic-items#latest


    Here you go, @RPGplayer13579:

    - New Mythic Items (split into five fragments)

    Ring of the Pale Order

    1 – Restore 15% of the damage you deal as health, up to a maximum heal of 3750 before bonuses. You cannot be healed by anyone but yourself.

    Edited by Taleof2Cities on October 5, 2020 10:12PM
  • cyclonus11
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    Looks great for soloing. I could allocate more points into stam from health and boost dmg.
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Here is the official thread for the new mythic items:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/546400/pts-update-28-feedback-thread-for-new-item-sets-mythic-items#latest


    Here you go, @RPGplayer13579:

    - New Mythic Items (split into five fragments)

    Ring of the Pale Order

    1 – Restore 15% of the damage you deal as health, up to a maximum heal of 3750 before bonuses. You cannot be healed by anyone but yourself.

    The important question is does that have a cool down
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  • kargen27
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    Would probably work for groups running three DPS one tank? Then again most those groups already have the self heals taken care of.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Froil
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    99.9% sure they're talking about Pearls of Ehlnofey, which is pretty garbo.

    Ring of the Pale Order is still super strong even with a heal cap.
    "Best" healer PC/NA
  • Kurat
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    Here is the official thread for the new mythic items:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/546400/pts-update-28-feedback-thread-for-new-item-sets-mythic-items#latest


    Here you go, @RPGplayer13579:

    - New Mythic Items (split into five fragments)

    Ring of the Pale Order

    1 – Restore 15% of the damage you deal as health, up to a maximum heal of 3750 before bonuses. You cannot be healed by anyone but yourself.

    The important question is does that have a cool down

    No cooldown. This is op af. The solo vet arenas and even vet group dungeons are basically overland content now lmao.
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Froil wrote: »
    99.9% sure they're talking about Pearls of Ehlnofey, which is pretty garbo.

    Ring of the Pale Order is still super strong even with a heal cap.

    Pearls of Ehlnofey or Pearls of The Ehlnofey as it should be called looks very strong to me. No drawbacks and a ton of ultimate again if there’s no cool down 5 ultimate per cast of a healing ability when above 30% main star pool is very good to me.

    Slotting one cheap weak heal could boost your ultimate big time I can see a healer with near continuous hits of 5 ultimate on just about every healing cost.
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    Chaos Death-Scale: Shadow Knight
    Tanks-With-Sap-Essence: Dark Mage
    Dark Brotherhood Listener: Blade of Argonia
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    Chaos Light-Scale: Marsh Paladin
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  • Banana
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    Kurat wrote: »
    Here is the official thread for the new mythic items:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/546400/pts-update-28-feedback-thread-for-new-item-sets-mythic-items#latest


    Here you go, @RPGplayer13579:

    - New Mythic Items (split into five fragments)

    Ring of the Pale Order

    1 – Restore 15% of the damage you deal as health, up to a maximum heal of 3750 before bonuses. You cannot be healed by anyone but yourself.

    The important question is does that have a cool down

    No cooldown. This is op af. The solo vet arenas and even vet group dungeons are basically overland content now lmao.

    Sweet. Should be a good mix with crit surge
  • Cronopoly
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    Battlespirit affect that 3750 heal?...and that's max...
  • Froil
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    Pearls of Ehlnofey or Pearls of The Ehlnofey as it should be called looks very strong to me. No drawbacks and a ton of ultimate again if there’s no cool down 5 ultimate per cast of a healing ability when above 30% main star pool is very good to me.

    Slotting one cheap weak heal could boost your ultimate big time I can see a healer with near continuous hits of 5 ultimate on just about every healing cost.

    It's while you're UNDER 30% of your main resource. PvE healers usually have high mag regen, tanks might be able to use it, but PvE you should be putting yourself towards debuffing enemies. It might work better in PvP.
    "Best" healer PC/NA
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Froil wrote: »
    Pearls of Ehlnofey or Pearls of The Ehlnofey as it should be called looks very strong to me. No drawbacks and a ton of ultimate again if there’s no cool down 5 ultimate per cast of a healing ability when above 30% main star pool is very good to me.

    Slotting one cheap weak heal could boost your ultimate big time I can see a healer with near continuous hits of 5 ultimate on just about every healing cost.

    It's while you're UNDER 30% of your main resource. PvE healers usually have high mag regen, tanks might be able to use it, but PvE you should be putting yourself towards debuffing enemies. It might work better in PvP.

    Wow I completely misread that idk if a tank could make use of this with health being their main resource that would be a bad tank of healer.

    I understand the criticism now maybe if it was limited to magic or stamina only it would work while for tanks
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  • Hotdog_23
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    Ring of the Pale Order is now basically weaker version of Critical Surge healing for all non-Sorcerer classes. Only class I can see using it is StamDk and Stamplar for solo play except in the solo arena's.

    Ring of the Pale Order

    Restore 15% of the damage you deal as health, up to a maximum heal of 3750 before bonuses. You cannot be healed by anyone but yourself.

    Critical Surge

    Invoke Meridia's name to gain Major Brutality and Sorcery, increasing your Weapon and Spell Damage by 20% for 33 seconds. While active, dealing Critical Damage heals you for 3300 Health. This effect can occur once every 1 second.

    Be safe and have fun :)
  • ccfeeling
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    ZOS is still monitoring the performance of this item , they said they may nerf this item one more time .

    It will be the 2nd Thrassian Stranglers .

    NO ONE CAN USE IT !
  • zaria
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    Froil wrote: »
    Pearls of Ehlnofey or Pearls of The Ehlnofey as it should be called looks very strong to me. No drawbacks and a ton of ultimate again if there’s no cool down 5 ultimate per cast of a healing ability when above 30% main star pool is very good to me.

    Slotting one cheap weak heal could boost your ultimate big time I can see a healer with near continuous hits of 5 ultimate on just about every healing cost.

    It's while you're UNDER 30% of your main resource. PvE healers usually have high mag regen, tanks might be able to use it, but PvE you should be putting yourself towards debuffing enemies. It might work better in PvP.
    below 30% useless for an tank who main resource is health. weak on an healer who should have magic resources even if mostly doing damage. Now who skills count here? Does sweeps count as it heal you and is spammed?
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Froil
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    I think when the game talks about main or "dominate" resources, as stated in the item, it's talking about max Magicka or Stamina and whichever's higher, by total value, not percentage.
    "Best" healer PC/NA
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Froil wrote: »
    I think when the game talks about main or "dominate" resources, as stated in the item, it's talking about max Magicka or Stamina and whichever's higher, by total value, not percentage.

    That would definitely change the equations if it meant just stamina or magic. With skill costing health and scaling from health it’s in that gray area of if it’s a dominate resource.
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