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Why no name NPC houseguests over prominent characters?

Chuck_Finley
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I really like the Houseguests idea they are coming out with but I feel it's fundamentally flawed in execution. All the previewed houseguests are random, no name, no backstory, no anything special NPCs.

Why would I want random NPC #3 to pace back and fourth in my home over Razum-Dar, Sheogorath, The Prophet, Naryu Virian or any number of other characters you meet across Tamriel? It could even be tied to achievements, like clear a zone, unlock a houseguest that was prominent in that zone.
  • kaisernick
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    I really like the Houseguests idea they are coming out with but I feel it's fundamentally flawed in execution. All the previewed houseguests are random, no name, no backstory, no anything special NPCs.

    Why would I want random NPC #3 to pace back and fourth in my home over Razum-Dar, Sheogorath, The Prophet, Naryu Virian or any number of other characters you meet across Tamriel? It could even be tied to achievements, like clear a zone, unlock a houseguest that was prominent in that zone.

    because people also rp in homes and it would not make sense for Razum-Dar, Sheogorath, The Prophet and Naryu to all be hanging out in your home, ton castle and would definatly break immersion.

    But you are getting some secondary hero characters anyway so while i wouldnt expect vivec to drop by anytime soon we are getting both.
  • Mix
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    We should have a selection of each. More basic and "random" npcs that are just barmaid/chef/guard/stablemaster with limited dialogue related to their role. That way they can be anyone you want really.

    NPCs we know are awesome but as @kaisernick said, they would be very awkward for some homes.
  • Chuck_Finley
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    kaisernick wrote: »

    because people also rp in homes and it would not make sense for Razum-Dar, Sheogorath, The Prophet and Naryu to all be hanging out in your home, ton castle and would definatly break immersion.

    The character you play is the savior of pretty much every zone you walk through, with very few exceptions. You are telling me it would break immersion for notable characters to show up in the home of the hero of the entire planet? To me it makes far more sense for Razum-Dar to show up at your door than a random barmaid or a pilgrim you've never met that just wants to meditate.

    But you are right people do RP so a mix of both notable and random NPC's would serve both concepts. Though I still say it wouldn't break immersion to have someone you saved, or someone who helped you save a region, to be around you. You made friends with werewolves, vampires and vampire hunters along the way, all perfect candidates to visit the Bastion Sanguinaris.
  • Sir Tanks a lot
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    The lack of prominent characters is almost definitely attributable to the immersion aspect. While I would not have a problem with Lady Laurent or Stibbons appearing in homes, for example, their presence could be construed as breaking with the overarching narrative.

    On a positive note, the upcoming houseguest options seen thus far have a good measure of variety and actually deliver on some of the most requested archetypes from here. A bartender/barmaid and a patrolling guard. The announced caster character was a surprise to me, but a welcome one at that.

    Thank you to @ZOS_CullenLee @ZOS_RobGarrett @ZOS_Cardinal and anyone else involved in these additions to housing
  • volkeswagon
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    but you could hang out with Raz and Cadwell impersonators that you hire to entertain at your residence perhaps. Or Raz's long lost twin brother. Or perhaps an ancestor of Elvis.
  • Nairinhe
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    Bad stuff often happens to the important characters. It would be weird to see someone die or something and then have them safely in your home.
  • TonyRockaroni
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    I honestly just want a bit more diversity with currently known (aka upcoming) houseguests. Especially because there isn't a single Argonian houseguest at the moment, from what I've seen. So I'm really hoping for at least two, maybe three Argonian houseguests in the future.
    Edited by TonyRockaroni on October 2, 2020 10:09PM
  • Sturmfaenger
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    Oooh Narsis Dren as a houseguest... he would never ever see the light of day again *muahaha* *rubshands* ^^
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  • HappyTheCamper
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    The crown store datamine had Jorunn’s son as one. I think they’ll eventually work in more known characters.
  • Nairinhe
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    The crown store datamine had Jorunn’s son as one. I think they’ll eventually work in more known characters.

    And Adusa-daro
  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    It's probably the cost of voice acting. The big names who voice your favorite characters are expensive. For a "talkative" guest like Biro-dar, that's a lot of extra overhead costs which may not be covered by sales. Also, at which point in their story would you have these characters? Plus, if they're brought back... so is
    Verandis pre-Markarth or post?
    Edited by CaffeinatedMayhem on October 2, 2020 4:25PM
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    Well, I still need to be in the room when Sai and Lyris see each other for the first time since I chose Sai to sacrifice himself. She seemed kind of ENORMOUSLY mad he didn't get in touch with her.
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  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    I'd love to have some even more generic npc houseguests. Like guards, servants, mage's guild members, soldiers etc I can place multiple of. Preferably with different race and look options, especially the guards.
    [Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!
  • Ajaxandriel
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    kaisernick wrote: »
    I really like the Houseguests idea they are coming out with but I feel it's fundamentally flawed in execution. All the previewed houseguests are random, no name, no backstory, no anything special NPCs.

    Why would I want random NPC #3 to pace back and fourth in my home over Razum-Dar, Sheogorath, The Prophet, Naryu Virian or any number of other characters you meet across Tamriel? It could even be tied to achievements, like clear a zone, unlock a houseguest that was prominent in that zone.

    because people also rp in homes and it would not make sense for Razum-Dar, Sheogorath, The Prophet and Naryu to all be hanging out in your home, ton castle and would definatly break immersion.

    Absolutely this.
    In fact, forcing famous NPCs into our homes would have made the Houseguests even more flawed. Terrible idea.

    The character you play is the savior of pretty much every zone you walk through, with very few exceptions.
    That's wrong. None of my characters has saved most of the zones him/herself, even my main one. Each one has a dedicated story and dedicated zones.

    Don't suppose everybody is playing an immersion-breaking Superman character dude :lol:

    Even most of people who would do that, they retcon it for themselves when they RP.
    Edited by Ajaxandriel on October 2, 2020 7:31PM
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  • Chuck_Finley
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    The character you play is the savior of pretty much every zone you walk through, with very few exceptions.
    That's wrong. None of my characters has saved most of the zones him/herself, even my main one. Each one has a dedicated story and dedicated zones.

    Don't suppose everybody is playing an immersion-breaking Superman character dude :lol:

    Even most of people who would do that, they retcon it for themselves when they RP.

    lol it isn't head canon or fan fiction or some sort of superman RP, most, if not every, zone has a major evil threat that needs to be dealt with and the player deals with it, most of the time ending with a group of people calling your character the hero and saying something to the effect of "everything would have been lost without you." If you are trying to say the player character isn't the hero of most of the zones in the game you just flat out aren't paying attention to the zone stories.
  • gepe87
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    Sotha Sil! ZoS would profit a lot!!!
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  • Nairinhe
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    gepe87 wrote: »
    Sotha Sil! ZoS would profit a lot!!!

    He would be a fine addition to my Hoarder's Nest. I'd put him somewhere between Fezez and that mammoth skull... Just like another trophy :D

    I'd say, let people who want story NPC guests have them. I can think of some who are not "too important" to visit Vestige and maybe there are even some who could be invited to stay without breaking immersion/lore.
  • katanagirl1
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    I am the Hero of Tamriel, I should be able to get any visitors I like - lol!
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  • Raideen
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    gepe87 wrote: »
    Sotha Sil! ZoS would profit a lot!!!

    I'd place him on a well designed shrine and log in daily just for worship.
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