Carbonised wrote: »Currently we only have documents for:
- Base zone recipes
- Vvardenfell zone recipes
We need other document types. Currently I am lacking 5 Dwarven purple recipes, having checked for a year at guild traders plus the TTC website, I have seen none of these 5 purples anywhere. The Dwarven Pew is supposedly the rarest of them, and is sold for about 1M when it does drop, with a rarity similar to Aetherial Ciper or worse. Yes, we need purple (and possibly blue) documents for Dwarven recipes. Currently they are not farmable in any way whatsoever. I have spent many days myself grinding dwarven automatons, and I have gotten a handful of green recipes and 1 blue to show for the effort.
Carbonised wrote: »Currently we only have documents for:
- Base zone recipes
- Vvardenfell zone recipes
We need other document types. Currently I am lacking 5 Dwarven purple recipes, having checked for a year at guild traders plus the TTC website, I have seen none of these 5 purples anywhere. The Dwarven Pew is supposedly the rarest of them, and is sold for about 1M when it does drop, with a rarity similar to Aetherial Ciper or worse. Yes, we need purple (and possibly blue) documents for Dwarven recipes. Currently they are not farmable in any way whatsoever. I have spent many days myself grinding dwarven automatons, and I have gotten a handful of green recipes and 1 blue to show for the effort.
Wow only 5 left?! Can you make the dwemer lantern?
That is one of the items I like and most of the times never find!
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And on the topic, I would like some crafting quests that reward specific themed furnishing plans, including dwemer, or certain furnishing items
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I might consider murder if it gets me those dwarven, Ayleid and clockwork documents. I'm only slightly exaggerating. I'm not as close as having learned all the patterns as some of you are /waves at Mix but I'm close enough that at this point - above are the ones I'm lacking the most in. and farming them is beyond bothersome.
Carbonised wrote: »I might consider murder if it gets me those dwarven, Ayleid and clockwork documents. I'm only slightly exaggerating. I'm not as close as having learned all the patterns as some of you are /waves at Mix but I'm close enough that at this point - above are the ones I'm lacking the most in. and farming them is beyond bothersome.
CWC recipes shouldn't be too hard, after they increased the droprate a couple updates back. I managed to get every single one from traders, though it did cost quite a bit. But I regularly see them up for trade and in my trade guild chats, so they're definitely out there.
Ayleid and Dwarven are another history, the purple 3 Ayleid and 6 purple Dwarven are almost non-existant.
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Carbonised wrote: »I might consider murder if it gets me those dwarven, Ayleid and clockwork documents. I'm only slightly exaggerating. I'm not as close as having learned all the patterns as some of you are /waves at Mix but I'm close enough that at this point - above are the ones I'm lacking the most in. and farming them is beyond bothersome.
CWC recipes shouldn't be too hard, after they increased the droprate a couple updates back. I managed to get every single one from traders, though it did cost quite a bit. But I regularly see them up for trade and in my trade guild chats, so they're definitely out there.
Ayleid and Dwarven are another history, the purple 3 Ayleid and 6 purple Dwarven are almost non-existant.
I haven't found increased drop rate to be significant to be honest, given how few options we have for actualy farming these. personaly. its not as bad as dwemmer or Ayleid, but its still bad. IMO. so yeah...
Carbonised wrote: »I might consider murder if it gets me those dwarven, Ayleid and clockwork documents. I'm only slightly exaggerating. I'm not as close as having learned all the patterns as some of you are /waves at Mix but I'm close enough that at this point - above are the ones I'm lacking the most in. and farming them is beyond bothersome.
CWC recipes shouldn't be too hard, after they increased the droprate a couple updates back. I managed to get every single one from traders, though it did cost quite a bit. But I regularly see them up for trade and in my trade guild chats, so they're definitely out there.
Ayleid and Dwarven are another history, the purple 3 Ayleid and 6 purple Dwarven are almost non-existant.
I haven't found increased drop rate to be significant to be honest, given how few options we have for actualy farming these. personaly. its not as bad as dwemmer or Ayleid, but its still bad. IMO. so yeah...
Carbonised wrote: »Carbonised wrote: »I might consider murder if it gets me those dwarven, Ayleid and clockwork documents. I'm only slightly exaggerating. I'm not as close as having learned all the patterns as some of you are /waves at Mix but I'm close enough that at this point - above are the ones I'm lacking the most in. and farming them is beyond bothersome.
CWC recipes shouldn't be too hard, after they increased the droprate a couple updates back. I managed to get every single one from traders, though it did cost quite a bit. But I regularly see them up for trade and in my trade guild chats, so they're definitely out there.
Ayleid and Dwarven are another history, the purple 3 Ayleid and 6 purple Dwarven are almost non-existant.
I haven't found increased drop rate to be significant to be honest, given how few options we have for actualy farming these. personaly. its not as bad as dwemmer or Ayleid, but its still bad. IMO. so yeah...
Regardless, it has been increased, significantly. I can tell you that before the increase there was not a single CWC recipe for sale, ever. And Vvardenfell recipes were only obtained in documents, you could farm tombs for hours with no recipes. We have a huge amount of Alinor recipes as well, without any documents, only due to this increase.
It doesn't matter if you, personally, don't feel the increase, the server certainly feels it, which means more recipes in circulation to buy. You're not supposed to farm all CWC recipes on your own, better to just get the gold to buy them at traders.
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P.S. factotums dropped recipes for about 24 hours or so? on release of DLC and were patched almost immediately, as far as i know - they no longer drop the patterns.
Carbonised wrote: »Carbonised wrote: »I might consider murder if it gets me those dwarven, Ayleid and clockwork documents. I'm only slightly exaggerating. I'm not as close as having learned all the patterns as some of you are /waves at Mix but I'm close enough that at this point - above are the ones I'm lacking the most in. and farming them is beyond bothersome.
CWC recipes shouldn't be too hard, after they increased the droprate a couple updates back. I managed to get every single one from traders, though it did cost quite a bit. But I regularly see them up for trade and in my trade guild chats, so they're definitely out there.
Ayleid and Dwarven are another history, the purple 3 Ayleid and 6 purple Dwarven are almost non-existant.
I haven't found increased drop rate to be significant to be honest, given how few options we have for actualy farming these. personaly. its not as bad as dwemmer or Ayleid, but its still bad. IMO. so yeah...
Regardless, it has been increased, significantly. I can tell you that before the increase there was not a single CWC recipe for sale, ever. And Vvardenfell recipes were only obtained in documents, you could farm tombs for hours with no recipes. We have a huge amount of Alinor recipes as well, without any documents, only due to this increase.
It doesn't matter if you, personally, don't feel the increase, the server certainly feels it, which means more recipes in circulation to buy. You're not supposed to farm all CWC recipes on your own, better to just get the gold to buy them at traders.
I'm talking from a perspective of farming rather then buying. CWC unlike Vvardenfell and Summerset (even poist traitor's nerf) don't have decent farming spots (what post above me states - I agree)
and I kinda have a feeling that part of the reason clockwork patterns are cheaper and more available then the other 2, is becasue they are less in demand. and I have ZERO desire to pay asking prices for them, even if they are cheaper then dwemmer, they are STILL expensive. too expensive for a pattern I would only get for collecting purposes. so yeah... getting doccuments for clockwork SHOULD happen, please stop trying to tell me that clockwork recipes do not need that.
and I'm well aware that we didn't see a lot of the vvardenfel patterns, it was becasue of generaly horrible rng and some of the patterns didn't have in game source at all, and I'm reasonably certain - still don't (other then doccuments) clockwork just plain sucks to farm though, rather then being entirely unavailable. but that doesn't mean documents wouldn't be helpful
P.S. factotums dropped recipes for about 24 hours or so? on release of DLC and were patched almost immediately, as far as i know - they no longer drop the patterns.
We need Dwarven Furniture Documents and an increase in the drop chance for Ayleid (there are only 3 purple plans so I don't see a way that could be sensibly made into a Furniture Document).
At least if we have purple Dwarven plans for x vouchers each, as long as each plan has equal drop chance from envelope, it will get the prices into a reasonable range.
Only 15 plans to go now! 4 Alinor Purple, 2 Ayleid Purple, 6 Dwarven Purple, and the 3 Wolfhunter blues (lol)
Carbonised wrote: »Carbonised wrote: »Carbonised wrote: »I might consider murder if it gets me those dwarven, Ayleid and clockwork documents. I'm only slightly exaggerating. I'm not as close as having learned all the patterns as some of you are /waves at Mix but I'm close enough that at this point - above are the ones I'm lacking the most in. and farming them is beyond bothersome.
CWC recipes shouldn't be too hard, after they increased the droprate a couple updates back. I managed to get every single one from traders, though it did cost quite a bit. But I regularly see them up for trade and in my trade guild chats, so they're definitely out there.
Ayleid and Dwarven are another history, the purple 3 Ayleid and 6 purple Dwarven are almost non-existant.
I haven't found increased drop rate to be significant to be honest, given how few options we have for actualy farming these. personaly. its not as bad as dwemmer or Ayleid, but its still bad. IMO. so yeah...
Regardless, it has been increased, significantly. I can tell you that before the increase there was not a single CWC recipe for sale, ever. And Vvardenfell recipes were only obtained in documents, you could farm tombs for hours with no recipes. We have a huge amount of Alinor recipes as well, without any documents, only due to this increase.
It doesn't matter if you, personally, don't feel the increase, the server certainly feels it, which means more recipes in circulation to buy. You're not supposed to farm all CWC recipes on your own, better to just get the gold to buy them at traders.
I'm talking from a perspective of farming rather then buying. CWC unlike Vvardenfell and Summerset (even poist traitor's nerf) don't have decent farming spots (what post above me states - I agree)
and I kinda have a feeling that part of the reason clockwork patterns are cheaper and more available then the other 2, is becasue they are less in demand. and I have ZERO desire to pay asking prices for them, even if they are cheaper then dwemmer, they are STILL expensive. too expensive for a pattern I would only get for collecting purposes. so yeah... getting doccuments for clockwork SHOULD happen, please stop trying to tell me that clockwork recipes do not need that.
and I'm well aware that we didn't see a lot of the vvardenfel patterns, it was becasue of generaly horrible rng and some of the patterns didn't have in game source at all, and I'm reasonably certain - still don't (other then doccuments) clockwork just plain sucks to farm though, rather then being entirely unavailable. but that doesn't mean documents wouldn't be helpful
P.S. factotums dropped recipes for about 24 hours or so? on release of DLC and were patched almost immediately, as far as i know - they no longer drop the patterns.
I'm sorry, but balancing furniture plans around each individual's desires to farm them all personally is a terrible idea. As long as you can buy all the plans you need, and for a somewhat resonable amount, then it's balanced. If every person were able to farm all the plans on their own, the market would be completely swamped in duplicates, and their value would fall to the level of Hollowjack motif pages. You can buy the plans you need, if you choose not to, that's your decision, and that's really all there is to it.
Also, your reply shows a lack of fundamental understanding on the furniture and trading market. CWC recipes are not cheap, in fact, they are the most expensive plans there currently is, disregarding purple Ayleid and Dwarven unicorn recipes. That they are "not in demand" is also faulty, I sell hundreds and hundreds of CWC themed furniture every week in my guilds.
You are also wrong regarding Factotums, they do still drop recipes, in fact, I personally got at least 1 green recipe from a Factotum. Yes, the droprate is very low, but they do drop them. I was not actively playing when the Factotums erroneously dropped recipes more often than they should, I also did not buy CWC plans when they dropped from the dungeon finder event, in fact, I did not start collecting CWC recipes until very recently, and yet I managed to buy every single CWC recipe, and this was even before Crown selling was a thing. So while you may not want to dish out the gold required for these recipes, that's again your own decision. The recipes are there, I managed to buy all of mine for somewhat reasonable prices, and you could do so as well, if you wanted.
There's a world of difference between CWC recipes that actually do exist and do drop, and the purple Dwarven and Ayleid recipes that practically do not exist, and when one does surface, it's sold for double the amount or tripple the amount of what the most expensive CWC recipes do.
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