to actually answer to the useless topic, you are doing the top rich players out of those who participate.

I'd be more interested in how much I've spent in gold over the years.

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Some of these same people also consistently buy crowns at a steep discount, in guild chat; 100:1 when PC/NA is at 200:1.

I just don't know HOW they're doing that, or WHO would sell at such a steep discount. When crowns were 200 per, I asked everywhere if anyone was willing to sell for 180 per, and heard only crickets. But 100 per? What would even be the benefit to the crown seller in that transaction?

The more of a leadership position you are in, the more that some will bend over backwards to please you.

Out of curiosity, what range are the “richest” players in? I know I’m nowhere close, just curious.

Casdha wrote: »

I'd be more interested in how much I've spent in gold over the years.

I'm sitting on roughly 8 million gold, so hardly in the big leagues.

I'd guess I've spent roughly twice as much as I have saved, mostly on motifs, outift pages, houses, and furnishings.

Danksta wrote: »

Munkfist wrote: »

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Some of these same people also consistently buy crowns at a steep discount, in guild chat; 100:1 when PC/NA is at 200:1.

I just don't know HOW they're doing that, or WHO would sell at such a steep discount. When crowns were 200 per, I asked everywhere if anyone was willing to sell for 180 per, and heard only crickets. But 100 per? What would even be the benefit to the crown seller in that transaction?

Would definitely spend a lot more at 100 per, need to find some of these people 😮

That's the going rate on PS4/NA

Craziness. I've seen a few sellers at 110-140, but few and far between (PCNA). Was sitting ~150 per for awhile, but with the new crates and such, it's sitting steady at 200-250 per now. Many, many millions spent :P

How do you define "richest"? There are certainly people on my friends list who have a higher bank balance than I do, but I also own every house in the game that can be purchased with gold and they only have free inn rooms -- so which of us is richer?

Rezdayn wrote: »

Avoranti wrote: »

This is interesting to me. I‘ll assume the owners of the bot accounts are the richest in game.

As for guild traders being “hacked” or whatever... no, but they have to be getting manipulated some how, at least on ps4. Lots of guilds who normally have traders haven’t been able to obtain them lately for some reason and keep losing out to guilds no ones heard of. When you look in their traders they have nothing of value. So it brings into question how are they out bidding known trade guilds?

Lastly, a question, what’s the gold cap? I assumed from watching pts streams that it’s 999,999,999 but someone shared an image via Facebook of a player with 7 billion gold. How is that even possible?

Yea I dont know for sure but would also assume the bots are the richest.

I am just curious and thought it would be a interesting video.

Turns out the community doesnt want content made.

Mostly because the "legit" players in the community don't want a new onslaught of bots from people who follow your content.There are enough bots already, no need to encourage people to add more.

markulrich1966 wrote: »

the richest I know wrote me about a year ago that he has 300 mio gold.
He achieves this by using 11 accounts for trading, so he has has trading accounts in every guild, in some more than one. He runs an own guild so that he can give the furniture he crafted to his other accounts avoiding the ban that guildmasters experienced sending items using mail.

Meanwhile he dominates the market prices on that server. While I honor his hard work and success he has, I see the problematic implications, that such a strategy can destroy the chance for other players using only 1 account, as they have no chance to compete with him.

This sounds like a fairy tale that someone who knew absolutely nothing about trading and trade guilds would concoct to try to make some kind of anti-guild statement.

Or, I suppose, to impress someone else who is both extremely gullible and has no idea how the guild trader system works.

I'm closing in on 9 digits soon, but I am not even close to being the richest. I'm just a hoarder.

There is also an addon that is called Wealth Estimator, with various settings to automatically include estimates of furniture value in each house (as long as you visit them) and such. You can even include wealth of knowledge, so the value of knowing crafting motifs and recipes is tabulated.

Then I sit anywhere around 160 to 200m

VoxAdActa wrote: »

markulrich1966 wrote: »

the richest I know wrote me about a year ago that he has 300 mio gold.
He achieves this by using 11 accounts for trading, so he has has trading accounts in every guild, in some more than one. He runs an own guild so that he can give the furniture he crafted to his other accounts avoiding the ban that guildmasters experienced sending items using mail.

Meanwhile he dominates the market prices on that server. While I honor his hard work and success he has, I see the problematic implications, that such a strategy can destroy the chance for other players using only 1 account, as they have no chance to compete with him.

This sounds like a fairy tale that someone who knew absolutely nothing about trading and trade guilds would concoct to try to make some kind of anti-guild statement.

Or, I suppose, to impress someone else who is both extremely gullible and has no idea how the guild trader system works.

I don't get your point.
First, in case this matters (I think it does), it is on a server without guild dues.

Second, it is not a fairy tale, I have all 11 account names.
Third, when he said that he has 300 mio gold, this is likely not a lie.
You need quite a sum of gold and/or mats like Mastic to fill 11x5x30 = 1150 guild slots with high quality furniture like rectangular elsweyr platforms, or all available purple solitude and vampiric items.

The money he has in backhand and his dominance being represented in EVERY major guild allows him to use agressive pricedumping.
I once tried to sell a solitude bookshelf, as soon as he saw my offer he underbid me. We went from 12k to 6k within a few hours. I had to give up, as with just 1 account and less money in the backhand, I do rely on each traderslot. unlike him, he still sells his stuff in the remaining 1149 slots.

Maybe it gets clearer now.

Whoever these players are... please support your guilds.

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

Whoever these players are... please support your guilds.

What do you mean with "support your guilds" ?

Let's take aside trading guilds, which obviously need gold for bidding on traders.

But other guilds ? I stopped giving them any sort of gold long ago.
- for guild houses linked to the guild master's ID or any other player's ID that will leave the game or the guild without notice ? No way. Been there, done that.
- for gear and potions for the core progression group in the guild, just to see them tearing each other apart and splitting up and leaving ? No way. Been there, done that.

Nice guilds don't need gold. They need nice fellow humanbeings, and a nice, human, committed guild management. Which is far more rare than gold in ESO.

I’m not the richest but I have 2.2 mil that I have no idea what to do with so for all the people with multi millions what is the point of obtaining that much gold?