tmbrinks wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

When you say "reunite" you make it sound like the regional servers were previously one. They were not. Nobody playing competitively in Europe would want a server in the US and vice versa. Given the server issues that some players - especially the competitive ones - have it is clear that merging server populations would be an absolute disaster and simply isn't going to happen.

You might in any event want to edit the title of this topic to e.g. "request" as "petitions" are against forum rules and will get locked or deleted.

How does this actually work in real life anyway. Have they literally got offices with servers in both the US and EU? Or are the servers just in the same building, but allocated to different regions?

The game servers are in different physical locations.

The NA one is around Dallas, TX.
The EU one is somewhere in Germany, if I recall correctly.

The login server is located in the US, so just to login to the game the players on the EU server ping the US (this is why their tracert connections show this)

Have an awesome. I had never thought about this before and this thread just made me wonder. TYVM.

Grey17 wrote: »

The in-game economics are totally different as well. There has been a few "gold exploits" on the EU server, and they definitely didn't catch everyone. That difference alone will make sure this merge never happens.

As a reference point, you just look at the Gold for Crowns variance between EU & NA. Quick glance at ESO exchange sees people wanting to sell crowns on EU at 350:1, while NA is 250:1

and I keep telling people on the PS4 that the 100g per crown rate is too low. That's why I don't sell crowns.

The thing people need to understand is they can't for overlapping names

You can have a Jimmy Jangle on EU and a Jimmy Jangle on NA but you can't have 2 Jimmy Jangle's on the same server, that's why it lets you know if a name is taking

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

tbh having champion points carry over really would be a massive help

And highly doubtful. I doubt Zos will just start giving players CP. Besides, players tend to get a little upset when others are freely given what they put the time in to gain.

Its not just two databases, its 6, three NA, three EU.

Each character exists only on one server, but on that server they have huge amounts of data associated with them, items, dlc, houses, pets, mounts, achievements, etc

Each of these will exist in different tables throughout the database. Each character will have a unique identifier, each item will be linked to that identifier and will have its own unique identifier, and so on.

However each identifier is not unique. It can appear on each database so can appear up to six times and won't be linked to the same character identifier (which of course is linked to an account identifier).

To move characters between databases would require a program that takes the character from database A and moves it to database B. Each unique identifier would have to amended to the next available identifier in the relevant table. This could involve literally 1000's of items.

All this would have to be done while the servers are down as to do it while the servers are up is going to result in conflicts - while its running the conversion new items would be being created in the game, meaning duplicated unique identifiers meaning possible database corruptions.

Database conversions are not easy, especially in a database with billions of rows of data, one mistake, one missed identifier could result in the database corrupting.

So yes it is possible to write a tool that would allow transfer between servers but that tool would need to be very robustly tested before being utilised and transfers would be expensive as the costs associated with writing the tool would need to be recovered.

Add in that conversion could only happen with the system down and all of a sudden maintenance starts to get longer as data is extracted from one database, converted, exported to its new location and then imported into the new server.

Most likely the data extract would take place in one maintenance window and the conversion / import into the new database in the next maintenance window. So at the best you wouldn't be able to play for a week, at worst a fortnight.

fced wrote: »

Hello,
Please reunite the two servers, i have friends in USA which created their toons on the US server, and i created mines on EU server, and today it took us 30 minutes to understand we couldn't invite each others because of this, we wanted to play together for the undaunted pledges.
Now my USA friends (husband and wife) have created a toon together on european server so we may play together, but they will have to start from scratch (they are CP 600 on US Server). This give you an idea of the sort of friends they are
They will have to level up the bank, buy the pets and mount they had on US server again, ...

The more important is when we search for dungeon (pledges mainly) it may take hour of queue, i am sure it would take half of this time if everybody was on the same server.

This system is bad, the best would be : One server for everybody and a character limit by map (more than 100 players on map create another "instance?" session) but we could play all together, and we will not have to wait so much time for dungeons.
Common Eso, you banished the factions for PVE dungeons, etc, you could do the same with EU/US Server...

All together for a better world

Ced

PS : today it took me 2 hours of queue to start my pledge, and finally guild friends came to help me. If we had one server for everybody I am sure it would have took far less time.

just pls dont the eu server is already running very bad if there are just few more players it will be completly unplayble

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

fced wrote: »

To move characters between databases would require a program that takes the character from database A and moves it to database B.

JamieAubrey wrote: »

The thing people need to understand is they can't for overlapping names

Come on everybody. Stop the BS.
Even the most basic file manager out there has an option to automatically rename already existing names into "thing1" "thing2", etc...
And since you can already change your character names (with tokens) and your game @ID, it means that the tools for spreading that change across all databases are already there.

I don't care if ZOS merges or doesn't merge ESO megaservers, but if they don't do it, it's definitely NOT because of "overlapping names".

Ah I get it ... you're asking your fellow players to accept an arbitrary character name change to "thing1" "thing2", etc generated from a basic file manager.

That won't start a revolt or anything.