Billy_Badascii wrote: »

I don't think I've ever sat in a que longer in any game than this one. Even a "dead" game such as SWTOR has faster que times than this. (...)
Or maybe rebalance the dungeon if the team is all dps?

I have played SWTOR for 6 years with no break, I left a couple years ago. I am pretty sure that you are talking about tacticals (if this is still their name), these instances that are role free. Well, maining a healer in my MMOs, I can't tell you how many times I have heard "thanks God, we got a healer".

Because in a game designed around the trinity you cannot find the right balance for encounters... without the trinity. You mentioned Blade & Soul and specified that there is no tank / heals in the game to begin with, so obviously the whole game is designed around this. In a traditional MMO where tank / heals / DPS is a thing and every boss encounter is made around it, how do you proceed when you want to make it role free? Either make the fight easy, with no spike damage but without challenge where is the fun? Either you keep the damage high enough but a team without a healer (there is reason why these tacticals have kolto tanks for heals in the boss fight) or a tank is going to have a less enjoyable time. One could say that 4 DPS are going to kill things before they are a trouble but it doesn't really work for bosses that are scripted for instance.

TL;DR Role free dungeons do not work in a game designed around the trinity.

Billy_Badascii wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

Billy_Badascii wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

the more ppl online the longer the queue as dps in my experience..so its usually faster when you dont queue at peak hours

my fastest queue times to do pledges are usually early morning before work between 5 and 7 am when i usually do them

I'm actually finding it funny nobody has hit on the biggest problem I am seeing with the que times for DPS.

If you GROUP with someone, it's nearly instant que times! 2 DPS will get a group nearly instantly!

WTF IS WITH THAT CRAP!?

The queue clearly prioritises partial groups. Its perfectly logical that a group 1 short is formed first, then 2 short, then last of all form a full group because of the volume of players. It's more efficient. Just put in zone that you're waiting as dps - - someone will join you because ALL dps have the same problem...

Either moan that the queue can't find you 3 random players, or find 1 random player yourself.

What I'm not understanding is why.

Why are they prioritizing people just cause they group together to que?

I'm playing the game same as everyone else. I paid for the game same as "almost" everyone else. Why should someone be bottom priority for a group just cause they are solo qued?

I mean that's the biggest slap in the face of all of this.

I think it makes sense that to form a group the system would pick two grouped dps first over a single dps. A group needs two dps after all.

Greetings,

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