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Tanking - The Bull Survival Challenge - For fun

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  • Dovakhan
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    I may do it someday if I'm bored, thou my tank is basically a carbon copy of the OP's video, so I basically already know the results.

    It'd surely be a matter of who's got the best resource management I guess.
  • zvavi
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    5. you can not kill any of the boss/mobs as it will lessen the pressure on you

    I nominate this rule to be revoked. It is entirely silly for mobs with so little health to survive 10 minutes. 3 bulls and 1 boss should be enough.

    I am also for changing the rules into 1 boss + 2 bulls, but
    1. You have to keep all 3 taunted with uptime of over 90%
    2. You are not allowed to drag them all over the place.

    Reasons: currently it is not "tanking" check, but "surviving" check. I think that changing the rules would be appropriate to call it "tanking challenge"
    Edited by zvavi on September 14, 2020 11:33AM
  • Grandchamp1989
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    zvavi wrote: »
    5. you can not kill any of the boss/mobs as it will lessen the pressure on you

    I nominate this rule to be revoked. It is entirely silly for mobs with so little health to survive 10 minutes. 3 bulls and 1 boss should be enough.

    I am also for changing the rules into 1 boss + 2 bulls, but
    1. You have to keep all 3 taunted with uptime of over 90%
    2. You are not allowed to drag them all over the place.

    Reasons: currently it is not "tanking" check, but "surviving" check. I think that changing the rules would be appropriate to call it "tanking challenge"

    lolol can't just change our rules, but you're free to make your own challenge.

    What you suggest would make the challenge a whole lot easier. Tanking two bulls and an easy boss who spend most of the time standing still in her sphere is not particularly hard.

    Major part of the challenge is to be a damage sponge that doesn't apply too much damage. (So no leeching and other damage sets/skills) And when you do deal damage you target right one - like the high HP boss - for your heavy attack needs. Also the small mobs attack fast so they really drain your ressources and apply snare. It's a huge part of the challenge gone.

    I digress I have already spend waaaay too much time on this. If anyone want to try this challenge the rules are in the opening post.
    If anyone wants to create their own challenge I support that too but please create your own thread and challenge the community that way.
    If this is not respected and this thread goes off topic with people using this as a platform to create their own challenges, I would like for the mods to be kind enough to close the thread.

    I wish everyone a great day

  • Jaimeh
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    Elwendryll wrote: »
    For sorcs, just set your pet on passive so it doesn't do damage?

    Even with the clannfear on passive, both small adds were dead before 6 minutes.
  • zvavi
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    Grandchamp1989 wrote: »
    zvavi wrote: »
    5. you can not kill any of the boss/mobs as it will lessen the pressure on you

    I nominate this rule to be revoked. It is entirely silly for mobs with so little health to survive 10 minutes. 3 bulls and 1 boss should be enough.

    I am also for changing the rules into 1 boss + 2 bulls, but
    1. You have to keep all 3 taunted with uptime of over 90%
    2. You are not allowed to drag them all over the place.

    Reasons: currently it is not "tanking" check, but "surviving" check. I think that changing the rules would be appropriate to call it "tanking challenge"

    What you suggest would make the challenge a whole lot easier. Tanking two bulls and an easy boss who spend most of the time standing still in her sphere is not particularly hard.

    Major part of the challenge is to be a damage sponge that doesn't apply too much damage. (So no leeching and other damage sets/skills) And when you do deal damage you target right one - like the high HP boss - for your heavy attack needs. Also the small mobs attack fast so they really drain your ressources and apply snare. It's a huge part of the challenge gone.

    Ye because streaking around to kite them all is much harder than keeping 2 bulls and boss taunted all the time (which is resource drain) and not dragging 3 bulls all over the map. Especially when you need to watch for knockback+heavy attack combo.

    I am sorry I saw tanking in the title so I thought we are trying to create a tanking challenge instead of "damage sponge" one, I guess it was a misunderstanding on my side.
    Edited by zvavi on September 14, 2020 12:30PM
  • RodneyRegis
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    Soooo....

    Don't use the clanfear.

    He's made the rules pretty straightforward. You can't use damage proc sets, or skills which damage. You probably have to only heavy attack the main boss - preferably no heavies and high stam regen, and even then avoid splash damage. Use inner fire rather than stabs. Turn off damage passives (s&b, deadly bash).
  • Grandchamp1989
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    oh and for the people who say I shouldn't speak about our challenge because I can't complete 10 minutes even when the mobs die

    Here's almost 15 minutes
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    I finally got tired at near 15 minute mark when I was alone with the boss and everyone else died at the 5 minute mark for small adds and 10 minute mark for bulls. .

    I guess this means I can speak on our own challenge again lol.
    The hardest part of that was to deal with block desynchs.

    Opening up for allowing adds to slowly being killed off open up for all kinds of cheese tactics and is much less stressful. Also it isn't as skillful IMO.
    Our original challenge is 100x harder.
    Edited by Grandchamp1989 on September 14, 2020 7:02PM
  • J2JMC
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    Reading the increase in passive aggressiveness over a simple technicality from what is supposed to be a fun challenge has been hilarious.

    Edit: Too actually make an on-topic comment, I side with OP on this one. Can't consider yourself to have completed the challenge if you break one of the rules.
    Edited by J2JMC on September 14, 2020 7:14PM
    Knee Jerk, L2P, Obtuse, Casual, Entitled, All The Best, unnecessary mention of CoD

    Battle leveling for pve content defeats the idea of progression. Remove CP

    "Apparently the players are more informed than we are"-Richard Lambert

  • Olupajmibanan
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    HI,

    So I've completed the challenge. Was pretty fun and boring at the same time :D The challenge itself was fun but I've come up with infinite permablock build and ended up doing nothing but holding block for 10 minutes and spamming Igneous Shield.

    I can't capture videos so I've taken several proofs including 2 CMX screenshots, fight screenshots at the start, 1st minute mark, 3rd minute mark, 6th minute mark, 8th minute mark, 10th minute mark and after death. The fight recording along with Superstar screenshot is included within the spoiler.

    1. Basic screenshot of the fight prooving that the fight lasted for longer than 10 minutes and 3 bulls, the boss and 2 adds were attacking me.
    screenshot_20200915_091539.png

    2. This screenshots prooves that no outside healing was incoming, so I was alone in that. Also note that my stamina was lower than my magicka so orbs/shards would restore magicka, but nothing is present in magicka drains/gains.
    screenshot_20200915_091741.png

    Full fight recording:
    1. The negotiation started at 00:00:25. Morrigh seems to be open for new ideas....
    screenshot_20200915_085921.png

    2. After 1 minute, Morrigh can't see well on the contracts so he lit the lights....
    screenshot_20200915_090005.png

    3. After 3 minutes, we still negotiate. It's hard to find a word with Morrigh when his 3 gorillas constantly bother you...
    screenshot_20200915_090212.png

    4. After 6 minutes, the gorillas are still angry. I am starting to loose hope that the contract will be signed...
    screenshot_20200915_090508.png

    5. Finally, after 8 minutes of hard negotiation we are shaking hands...
    screenshot_20200915_090715.png

    6. The meeting ends and everybody (Morrigh, 3 bulls and 2 adds) is well and safe, kissing me for bringing a good contract to the table.
    screenshot_20200915_090908.png


    The end!!! Also note that I died on purpose after 10 minutes, could absolutely go infinite with this build.
    screenshot_20200915_090930.png

    The build:
    screenshot_20200915_091325.png

    Thank you for creating this challenge, was great!
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on September 15, 2020 8:13AM
  • Grandchamp1989
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    Olupajmibanan wrote: »
    HI,

    So I've completed the challenge. Was pretty fun and boring at the same time :D The challenge itself was fun but I've come up with infinite permablock build and ended up doing nothing but holding block for 10 minutes and spamming Igneous Shield.

    I can't capture videos so I've taken several proofs including 2 CMX screenshots, fight screenshots at the start, 1st minute mark, 3rd minute mark, 6th minute mark, 8th minute mark, 10th minute mark, after death. The fight recording with Superstar screenshot is included within the spoiler.

    1. Basic screenshot of the fight prooving that the fight lasted for longer than 10 minutes and 3 bulls, the boss and 2 adds were attacking me.
    screenshot_20200915_091539.png

    2. This screenshots prooves that no outside healing was incoming, so I was alone in that. Also note that my stamina was lower than my magicka so orbs/shards would restore magicka, but nothing is present in magica drains/gains.
    screenshot_20200915_091741.png

    Full fight fight recording:
    1. The negotiation started at 00:00:25. Morrighseems to be open for new ideas....
    screenshot_20200915_085921.png

    2. After 1 minute, Morrigh can't see well on the contracts so he lit the lights....
    screenshot_20200915_090005.png

    3. After 3 minutes, we still negotiate. It's hard to find a word with the boss when his 3 gorillas constantly bother you...
    screenshot_20200915_090212.png

    4. After 6 minutes, the gorillas are still angry. I am starting to loose hope that the contract will be signed.
    screenshot_20200915_090508.png

    5. Finally, after 8 minutes of hard negotiation we are shaking hands.
    screenshot_20200915_090715.png

    6. The meeting ends and everybody (Morrigh, 3 bulls and 2 adds) is well and safe, kissing me for bringing a good contract to the table.
    screenshot_20200915_090908.png


    The end!!! Also note that I died on purpose after 10 minutes, could absolutely go infinite with this build.
    screenshot_20200915_090930.png

    The build:
    screenshot_20200915_091325.png

    double post
    Edited by Grandchamp1989 on September 15, 2020 8:11AM
  • Grandchamp1989
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    Olupajmibanan wrote: »
    HI,

    So I've completed the challenge. Was pretty fun and boring at the same time :D The challenge itself was fun but I've come up with infinite permablock build and ended up doing nothing but holding block for 10 minutes and spamming Igneous Shield.

    I can't capture videos so I've taken several proofs including 2 CMX screenshots, fight screenshots at the start, 1st minute mark, 3rd minute mark, 6th minute mark, 8th minute mark, 10th minute mark and after death. The fight recording along with Superstar screenshot is included within the spoiler.

    1. Basic screenshot of the fight prooving that the fight lasted for longer than 10 minutes and 3 bulls, the boss and 2 adds were attacking me.
    screenshot_20200915_091539.png

    2. This screenshots prooves that no outside healing was incoming, so I was alone in that. Also note that my stamina was lower than my magicka so orbs/shards would restore magicka, but nothing is present in magica drains/gains.
    screenshot_20200915_091741.png

    Full fight fight recording:
    1. The negotiation started at 00:00:25. Morrigh seems to be open for new ideas....
    screenshot_20200915_085921.png

    2. After 1 minute, Morrigh can't see well on the contracts so he lit the lights....
    screenshot_20200915_090005.png

    3. After 3 minutes, we still negotiate. It's hard to find a word with Morrigh when his 3 gorillas constantly bother you...
    screenshot_20200915_090212.png

    4. After 6 minutes, the gorillas are still angry. I am starting to loose hope that the contract will be signed...
    screenshot_20200915_090508.png

    5. Finally, after 8 minutes of hard negotiation we are shaking hands...
    screenshot_20200915_090715.png

    6. The meeting ends and everybody (Morrigh, 3 bulls and 2 adds) is well and safe, kissing me for bringing a good contract to the table.
    screenshot_20200915_090908.png


    The end!!! Also note that I died on purpose after 10 minutes, could absolutely go infinite with this build.
    screenshot_20200915_090930.png

    The build:
    screenshot_20200915_091325.png

    Thank you for creating this challenge, was great!

    Looks legit and within the rules as what I can see

    Congratz mate! Well freaking done!
    Awesome built never thought of adding Witchman

    Challenge completed!
    You're the very first Bull Champion!
  • Starlight_Whisper
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    Haha this is pretty interesting
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