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Regarding the pricing of Morrowind.
FloydStash
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Hello.
If morrowind is free in a bundle, then why are people who already bought this game but do not own morrowind forced to still pay full price of 3500 crowns = 25 euro?
Am i the only one who thinks atleast morrowind's price should be permanently significantly lowered?
This is not fair for the people who bought your game early.
If morrowind is free in a bundle, then why are people who already bought this game but do not own morrowind forced to still pay full price of 3500 crowns = 25 euro?
Am i the only one who thinks atleast morrowind's price should be permanently significantly lowered?
This is not fair for the people who bought your game early.
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esotoon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Expecting ZOS to be fair to their customers? What is this, 2013?
But to answer your question, yes it would be nice if the discounted it now that it is part of the base game, but it isn't going to happen.
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Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why would they exoect anyone to purchace a dlc when they are all "free" with eso+?1 -
FloydStash✭✭Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »Why would they exoect anyone to purchace a dlc when they are all "free" with eso+?
eso is not free. You don't own any of the dlc's with eso+. [snip]
[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on September 13, 2020 10:01AM5 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FloydStash wrote: »Hello.
If morrowind is free in a bundle, then why are people who already bought this game but do not own morrowind forced to still pay full price of 3500 crowns = 25 euro?
Am i the only one who thinks atleast morrowind's price should be permanently significantly lowered?
This is not fair for the people who bought your game early.
Why would something being added to a later bundle, ever retroactively give those things to earlier purchasers? If you buy Fall AAA Game 14™ for $60 in 2018, and then the "Definitive" version comes out (a year later, for $40) that includes all the DLC, would you expect them to give you the DLC?
Or if you sign up for a broadband contract, and then two months later the ISP adds "free year of HBO Max" to that level of contract, would you expect to get that retroactively? No, it's only for new signups.
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FloydStash wrote: »Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »Why would they exoect anyone to purchace a dlc when they are all "free" with eso+?
eso is not free. You don't own any of the dlc's with eso+. [snip]
That's why he said "free", not free.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on September 13, 2020 10:01AM1 -
FloydStash✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »FloydStash wrote: »Hello.
If morrowind is free in a bundle, then why are people who already bought this game but do not own morrowind forced to still pay full price of 3500 crowns = 25 euro?
Am i the only one who thinks atleast morrowind's price should be permanently significantly lowered?
This is not fair for the people who bought your game early.
Why would something being added to a later bundle, ever retroactively give those things to earlier purchasers? If you buy Fall AAA Game 14™ for $60 in 2018, and then the "Definitive" version comes out (a year later, for $40) that includes all the DLC, would you expect them to give you the DLC?
Or if you sign up for a broadband contract, and then two months later the ISP adds "free year of HBO Max" to that level of contract, would you expect to get that retroactively? No, it's only for new signups.
Etc.
i never said give it for free, i'm merely stating that i find it strange the package has not been severaly discounted while other people are receiving it for free at the same time.
What's even worse is that if i want to receive the same freebies people in bundle are getting with their purchase that costs 30 euro or less..
I would have to pay 25 euro for the zone vvardenfell + 15 euro for the warden class. = 40 euro.
+ xx euro for the collectibles that people in bundle are getting.
Why do i have to pay more, than the people who are buying the game?
If you can defend this honestly without even scratching the back of your head for a bit of human morale, then i don't know what else to say but be dissapointed in a fellow human. and the human race as a whole.4 -
Pandorii✭✭✭✭✭
✭I didn't have morrowind, elswyer, or graymoore, so I bought the graymoore edition of the game for twenty bucks and got the other two expansions as well.
EDIT: I already had the base game, but it still allowed me to redeem the digital code and overrided it.Edited by Pandorii on September 12, 2020 3:11PM3 -
Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭FloydStash wrote: »Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »Why would they exoect anyone to purchace a dlc when they are all "free" with eso+?
eso is not free. You don't own any of the dlc's with eso+. [snip]
Never said thatEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on September 13, 2020 10:02AM0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Morrowind being included in the purchase of certain game packages is not the same as being free.4 -
MaurnaFrost✭✭Steam can do that though. If you buy a game or a DLC and then later buy a set, they prorate the cost on a lot of them if you already have a portion. So yes, some platforms can build it in.0
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MaurnaFrost wrote: »Steam can do that though. If you buy a game or a DLC and then later buy a set, they prorate the cost on a lot of them if you already have a portion. So yes, some platforms can build it in.
Of course, that's only with "bundles" (as opposed to collections, "GOTY"/ultimate/etc editions, packages, etc).0 -
FloydStash✭✭You all have very valid points. in the end its up to Zenimax to put a proper price on their product.
The reason i was prompted to make this topic is because i started talking bout buying morrowind.
When a 2 guild friends were telling me wtf how did you not get that for free, aswell as the warden class, as they
themselves did get it included in the bundle.
I explained to them that i bought the game on pre-order before release back in 2014.
It was them who were flabbergasted at first that i was about to spend 40 euro on something they received for free.
When they told it to me, the only feeling i had was being left behind as an early adopter.
I am now not motivated to spend 40 euro unlocking that content when i know there's people around me who obtained it for a
much reduced bundle cost. A bundle cost denied to early adopters it seems.
If anything this topic should serve as marketing insight/advice for Zenimax, not that i'm special enough, but i do believe my opinion matters, atleast for myself.1 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FloydStash wrote: »I am now not motivated to spend 40 euro unlocking that content when i know there's people around me who obtained it for a much reduced bundle cost. A bundle cost denied to early adopters it seems.
Don' travel by bus, train or even worse, plane, then. The person sitting next to you may have bought their ticket 20% or 400% the price you paid, depending on time, schedule, bundled sale, platform, whatever.
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FloydStash✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »FloydStash wrote: »I am now not motivated to spend 40 euro unlocking that content when i know there's people around me who obtained it for a much reduced bundle cost. A bundle cost denied to early adopters it seems.
Don' travel by bus, train or even worse, plane, then. The person sitting next to you may have bought their ticket 20% or 400% the price you paid, depending on time, schedule, bundled sale, platform, whatever.
What exactly does that add to this topic? I'm not here for travel advice
and they are completely different situations.
If you don't have anything constructive to add you should maybe not add anything at all?
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Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Morrowind is old enough to include it in basic bundle, so that new players won't feel intimidated by amount of stuff they need to buy to catch up (and to give them a taste of what a chapter is). But not old/unpopular enough to just give it for free like Imperial City.
It's like getting frustrated because Murkmire was a free daily reward or because you paid for old chapters with real cash, but now someone can buy them with in-game gold.
There will be more and more bundled stuff for new players and the gap in what old players paid in total and what new players pay for the same amount of content will only grow. Greymoor edition has everything and is not even 10 usd more than Greymoor upgrade on Russian Steam.
But what do I know, I start happily throwing money at my screen the moment new chapter's preorder opens
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Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Look hard enough and you can get the Morrowind disc version for peanuts. Here in the UK it was retailing for £2.99 2 weeks ago. So I'm assuming it goes on sale for peanuts elsewhere. Saying that, I'm not 100% sure how that would all come together if you own a digital copy of the base game.
I think it's also safe to assume all older versions of the game retail very cheaply too as and when they go on sale. Even Elsweyr is now outdated and will receive hefty price drops from time to time. Does the current chapter always include the old chapters?
Edit: You can also get it for free. Use in game gold and get someone to gift it to you.Edited by Prof_Bawbag on September 13, 2020 2:58PM0 -
FloydStash✭✭Morrowind is old enough to include it in basic bundle, so that new players won't feel intimidated by amount of stuff they need to buy to catch up
Ahh... but it is okay to intimidate returning veterans with the amount of stuff they need to buy in order to catch up.
That's great logic.
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Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FloydStash wrote: »Morrowind is old enough to include it in basic bundle, so that new players won't feel intimidated by amount of stuff they need to buy to catch up
Ahh... but it is okay to intimidate returning veterans with the amount of stuff they need to buy in order to catch up.
That's great logic.
What's "returning"? We aren't supposed to take breaks in the first place!
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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This is true, however with some exceptions, first if you would purchase the crowns anyway ESO+ is more value for the money.FloydStash wrote: »Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »Why would they exoect anyone to purchace a dlc when they are all "free" with eso+?
eso is not free. You don't own any of the dlc's with eso+. [snip]
[Edited to remove Baiting]
Second is content you only need for an limited time for doing the story, skill point and various stuff you need.
Yes part of why not upgrading vMA weapons was probably to get more people to getting back to Orcinium.
Same with motifs dropping late in DLC dungeons and the various DLC events.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0
