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NIGHTBLADE(PvP//DW BUILD) QUESTION?

cheesefome
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What is the best weapon combination (Example. axe/dagger, axe/axe) for PvP. Not PvE, I'm mostly PvP.

What armor sets are viable for PvP as DW stamina nightblade? I know ton of people say dW isn't optimal i still want to play it.

Also, what skils are ideal if i were to go duel wield.
  • Mayrael
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    Don't believe DW is not optimal. Yesterday I've met stamsorc using DW. It was THE ONLY player that was able to kill me in 1v1, his damage was so high I couldn't out heal it with 25k resists, 1,7 hp regen, BRP staff, minor maim and 2 resto staff skills on. Ofc I've made some mistakes but nevertheless he was really strong. What was his build? I can only guess, it would be better if someone having more experience in this type of builds would help you.
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
  • cheesefome
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    Forums aren't very active huh
  • Ezorus
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    If you aren't using flying blade theres a set that gives major Brutality. Main reason I pick 2H as a back bar over DW
  • Firstmep
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    cheesefome wrote: »
    What is the best weapon combination (Example. axe/dagger, axe/axe) for PvP. Not PvE, I'm mostly PvP.

    What armor sets are viable for PvP as DW stamina nightblade? I know ton of people say dW isn't optimal i still want to play it.

    Also, what skils are ideal if i were to go duel wield.

    You could a heavy attack focused build with Undaunted Infiltrator and sergeant, you can proc UI with cloak on the backbar and proc off balanced with suprise attack.
    I think for nightblade double maces are probably best for dual wield, unless you want to go for some kind a dot related setup.

    Either way dont use daggers or sword, NB gets enough crit from passives and cloak and swords are inferior to maces for the most part as stamina.

    I think your skill layout can be much the same, but instead of executioner you run whirling blades for the aoe execute.

  • hakan
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    Considering Rally doesnt heal that much anymore, i guess DW got a little bit better dont you think?
  • Mayrael
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    Cruel Flurry
    (2 items) When you deal damage with Flurry, your any target-applied Damage over Time effect cast within 4 seconds gains 1690 Spell and Weapon Damage.
    (Perfected) Grants up to 103 Weapon Damage.

    Strength of the Automaton
    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (5 items) Adds 400 Weapon Damage to your Physical Damage abilities.

    Clever Alchemist
    (2 Items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (5 items) When you drink a potion you feel a rush of energy, increasing your Weapon and Spell Damage by 675 for 20 seconds.
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
  • cheesefome
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    Cruel Flurry
    (2 items) When you deal damage with Flurry, your any target-applied Damage over Time effect cast within 4 seconds gains 1690 Spell and Weapon Damage.
    (Perfected) Grants up to 103 Weapon Damage.

    Strength of the Automaton
    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (5 items) Adds 400 Weapon Damage to your Physical Damage abilities.

    Clever Alchemist
    (2 Items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (5 items) When you drink a potion you feel a rush of energy, increasing your Weapon and Spell Damage by 675 for 20 seconds.

    Thanks. What skills are you using for pvp?
  • russelmmendoza
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    Don't believe DW is not optimal. Yesterday I've met stamsorc using DW. It was THE ONLY player that was able to kill me in 1v1, his damage was so high I couldn't out heal it with 25k resists, 1,7 hp regen, BRP staff, minor maim and 2 resto staff skills on. Ofc I've made some mistakes but nevertheless he was really strong. What was his build? I can only guess, it would be better if someone having more experience in this type of builds would help you.

    Op said nb dw, not sorc dw.
    Anything is better than stam nb.
    Mag nb is still ok.
    And yes I am a stam nb.
    Only thing I can do is assist.
  • Canned_Apples
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    Don't believe DW is not optimal. Yesterday I've met stamsorc using DW. It was THE ONLY player that was able to kill me in 1v1, his damage was so high I couldn't out heal it with 25k resists, 1,7 hp regen, BRP staff, minor maim and 2 resto staff skills on. Ofc I've made some mistakes but nevertheless he was really strong. What was his build? I can only guess, it would be better if someone having more experience in this type of builds would help you.

    Draugrkin’s grip + malacath. not sure which other set it’s currently being paired with..

    DW is far from optimal, unless you’re running that cheese build. ...which all DW sorcs are.. gotta love that pay to win jewelry.
  • itscompton
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    Unfortunately PvP is in a burst combo meta and none of the skills in DW do burst damage with possibly the exception of Whirling Blades as an execute for low health targets. That said it does offer more raw WD than any other weapon and a NB has plenty of good class skills to fill out the rest of the bar so you could use Whirling and four class skills if you really want to be DW.
    Put Relentless Focus on the DW bar but proc the Assassins Scourge with light attacks from a bow on the back bar. Then when it's ready switch back to DW and hit them with the Ambush+Ulti+AS+Whirlwind combo. As for choice of which Ulti: Incapacitating strike is more of a loaded skill and better if you can land it yet I prefer Soul Tether even on my Stam NB because it's very hard to miss with it while it seems my Incap gets dodged at least half the time.
    If you have Balorgh's on and at least 300 ulti built up that combo will kill probably 4/5 people.
    Edited by itscompton on September 10, 2020 7:54AM
  • itscompton
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    Cruel Flurry
    (2 items) When you deal damage with Flurry, your any target-applied Damage over Time effect cast within 4 seconds gains 1690 Spell and Weapon Damage.
    (Perfected) Grants up to 103 Weapon Damage.

    Strength of the Automaton
    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (5 items) Adds 400 Weapon Damage to your Physical Damage abilities.

    Clever Alchemist
    (2 Items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (5 items) When you drink a potion you feel a rush of energy, increasing your Weapon and Spell Damage by 675 for 20 seconds.

    Your Clever alchemist info is outdated. The tooltip now states you have to be in combat when you drink the potion. No biggie for brawler classes but messes with a sneak attack class like NB a bit.
    Edited by itscompton on September 10, 2020 8:06AM
  • Canned_Apples
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    itscompton wrote: »
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Cruel Flurry
    (2 items) When you deal damage with Flurry, your any target-applied Damage over Time effect cast within 4 seconds gains 1690 Spell and Weapon Damage.
    (Perfected) Grants up to 103 Weapon Damage.

    Strength of the Automaton
    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (5 items) Adds 400 Weapon Damage to your Physical Damage abilities.

    Clever Alchemist
    (2 Items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (5 items) When you drink a potion you feel a rush of energy, increasing your Weapon and Spell Damage by 675 for 20 seconds.

    Your Clever alchemist info is outdated. The tooltip now states you have to be in combat when you drink the potion. No biggie for brawler classes but messes with a sneak attack class like NB a bit.

    Backbar bow, light attack/poison injection, stealth, pop pot, win.
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