Dusk_Coven wrote: »You can stop stream sniping.
You can stop AP boosting in Cyrodiil.
You can stop door camping to kill people in a load screen.
As a bonus you can solve the problem of unbalanced faction population and PvDoor.
By closing open world PvP entirely and putting all PvP into battlegrounds only.
You can keep capture? Resource capture? Make them into BG maps.
It's way past time they did that, just to limit how much players can exploit. Time and again they've proven they will try to exploit whatever they can and trust that ZOS won't actually do anything.
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »People in this thread are intentionally misunderstanding what stream sniping actually is.
It is NOT playing in the same campaign as a streamer and killing them in the normal course of PvP.
It is NOT randomly getting matched with them in a BG.
It IS watching their stream on your second monitor or phone and stalking them around the map with the intention of griefing them and trolling their stream.
The people defending themselves in these threads know exactly what they are doing and that it is toxic. But the fact remains that it doesn't matter what their excuse is because their actions are now covered explicitly by the ToS.
You can stop all traffic accidents by banning cars and forcibly removing them from people!
You can stop all steroid and performance enhancer violations in sports by banning all organized sports. No more professional sport teams, no more olympics, only informal neighborhood pickup games. That’s the solution, yah!!
Let’s take it a step further, we can also stop all theft if we ban owning things. Everyone will be assigned a colorless bloc to live in, with identical furniture crafted into the block, and everyone will be given the exact same allotment of clothing and food and that’s it.
CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Well, that's the nuclear option. "Fixing" the problem by getting rid of ALL opportunity to cheat. Or, you know, play those game modes at all.
There is such a thing as being so anti-cheating that it wraps around to anti-player.
Seriously, I like playing in Cyrodiil. I would really dislike your vendetta against cheaters getting my option to play removed.
Also, knowing where someone is during a battleground is very advantageous, so *all* pvp would need to be removed.
This and Cyrodil is still more causal than normal trials as any fool can add an siege or heal on ram.MasterSpatula wrote: »Woooooooow.
If PVP at launch had been like Battlegrounds instead of like Cyrodiil, I doubt I would have lasted more than a couple of months. In fact, the fact that there wasn't anything like Battlegrounds in the game used to be something I considered one of ESO's strengths.
Small-scale PVP feels like an Arcade Game. Cyrodiil feels like what PVP should be in an RPG, large in scale and tied into the overall story.
This is a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible idea, OP.
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »
@LadyNalcarya I honestly do not think that this is something that normal players have to worry about. There aren't even that many PvP streamers in the game to begin with and randomly killing one in large-scale or open combat isn't particularly note-worthy or offensive (and a report of that nature would likely be ignored by Support).
Stream sniping is usually bow-ganking or bombing a streamer over and over again in multiple places across the map in a way that cannot be credibly explained by random chance. I don't do either of those those things--and neither do the overwhelming majority of ESO players--so I have no anxiety when it comes to these changes.
And there is always going to be a record, at the very least the record of the stream that is saved by Twitch (and would likely be required as evidence for this type of complaint). It would be very easy to review the death recaps and see if it actually was a stream sniper's Lethal Arrow that killed the streamer half a dozen times in six different places scattered throughout the map or if, for whatever reason, it was a spurious complaint brought by the streamer (in which case, I would expect consequences for the streamer).
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »The difference is crystal clear.
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »@LadyNalcarya The evidence would come from the streamer's stream (supplied by said streamer if they want the accusation to stick against the sniper). The video would include the Death Recaps which would show the stream sniper's in-game name that could be used to discipline them. I'm sure that there are also archived combat logs and positional information that Support staff would have access to for further context and evidence in a claim.
Also, following someone isn't stream sniping since by that definition you are taking no overt action (e.g. the "sniping" part of "stream sniping" which implies a hostile, aggressive act) against them. Following a streamer and repeatedly bow-ganking, bombing or otherwise griefing them is stream sniping since that is no longer a passive action but has crossed the line into a pattern intended to disrupt or otherwise troll the stream.
The difference is crystal clear and normal players have nothing to worry about.
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »People in this thread are intentionally misunderstanding what stream sniping actually is.
It is NOT playing in the same campaign as a streamer and killing them in the normal course of PvP.
It is NOT randomly getting matched with them in a BG.
It IS watching their stream on your second monitor or phone and stalking them around the map with the intention of griefing them and trolling their stream.
The people defending themselves in these threads know exactly what they are doing and that it is toxic. But the fact remains that it doesn't matter what their excuse is because their actions are now covered explicitly by the ToS.