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ZOS delete detect pots
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SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't use detect pots myself (although I know I should), nor even invisibility pots, but this conversation reminds me of the PvP streamer who posted a clip where another player accused him of hacking and using illegal cheats because he'd equipped a stack of detect pots in his quickslots and used them to spot the other player while he was hidden or invisible.
It makes sense that if there's a potion or spell or skill that gives a player an advantage, there should also be potions or spells or skills to help other players counter against that advantage.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!1 -
xxslam48xxb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭How are detect pots an issue for nightblades when you can snipe from outside the detection range? Simmering frenzy to 50% hp-> snipe-> snipe(most targets are dead here)-> finisher of your choice/drop ult. Then you re cloak before the enemy team even knows what happened. Its not an issue and if you do die, just make sure you have a positive k/d before you do otherwise you are dead weight. You already messed up pretty bad if they used the detect pot to begin with. Ideally you should only attack targets that are totally unaware of your presence.
Pro tip is to fire from a position that line of sights you from everyone except your target. Pick a mark that you know will die in one combo or has bad positioning. People almost never turn around, so shooting targets at the rear of a zerg is usually free. You can press tab to "lock on" to your mark so no pets or other players get in the way of your assassination(works good against a certain flavor of the month monster set). Farm monsters for ultimate so you never fail to kill a target due to not having it(very easy in imperial city). Be a vampire and use ring of wild hunt for quick escapes.Edited by xxslam48xxb14_ESO on September 5, 2020 5:16PMI wrote a poem that I titled, "The ganker's delight."
As you lay upon the ground, cry not little pawn.
The pain will pass as quickly as my blade did take you,
but my delight will last and you will respawn.
My heart simply cannot contain my joy, when I ply my trade.
The fault lies with you, your skill was lacking.
Now your salt is mine forever, can't you hear the laughing?
Once you were so proud and now you are reduced to this.
A miserable, loud deuced fool.
With every tear you drip, with every excuse you let slip.
All of your insecurities and worries bring a smile to my lip.
From your despair I have ripped endless glories,
but our affair is over now. Be afraid for I will return for more.
I have received many titles, to my allies I am The sniper Emperor and Grand champion hero of the Pact. However these titles mean little to me, it is the ones given to me by my victims that I prefer. To them I am "Xv1er", "trash", "no balls", "zerger", "noob", "cringe", "no skill", "camper", "100% new", "the reason this game is dying", "pathetic", "a sack of piece of [snip]", "mediocre", "absolute inbred", "beyond a virgin", "ganky dork", "fat smelly 40yr old virgin", "little girl", "daddy", "exploiting loser", and every [snipped] word known to man.2 -
Theignson✭✭✭✭✭
✭SamanthaCarter wrote: »An immunity of 30 sec after the first detect pot and ok ESO will be fine
OK if you then remove ability of NB to cloak again for 30 seconds...ridiculous
I am greatly enjoying my medium armor stamblade these days. Leave it alone.
Part of the fun/challenge of NB is managing cloak in the most efficient way. Playing against NB is irritating as heck. There have to be counters. If they use detect potion, they lose the ability to lose a more beneficial potion for the whole cooldown, tat is a big trade off.4 GOs, and General, and bunches of prefects etc-- all classes...I've wasted a lot of time in PVP over the last 8 years9 -
hydrocynus✭✭✭✭✭Don't remove them. Just change the recipe. Seems like they have too much salt in them.....My internet is invalid11
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doomette✭✭✭✭✭
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With a response like this, I’d suggest something spicy 😂hydrocynus wrote: »Don't remove them. Just change the recipe. Seems like they have too much salt in them.....
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Luke_Flamesword✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Thank you OP for reminding me about detection pots - I will brew some for my next IC trip
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Joinovikova✭✭✭✭SamanthaCarter wrote: »Try to vX 10 players using detect pots one after an other
yy win 1vs 10 is literally meaning of proper balance... why people crying abotu currently s+ class ?... dont understand. detect pots is only chance how to zerg perma roll and cloack NB .. it shoudl be part of every basic pvp potion... 0 -
AuraNebula✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »You should not be able to kill 10 players by yourself from stealth anyway.
Yes you should, that's why there are bombers. There is a need to combat giant zergs running around trampling over everyone. Without bombers then it is just zerg vs zerg. That leaves solo players to fend for themselves. Sorry you got bombed because you run in giant groups and can't fight on your own.Edited by AuraNebula on September 5, 2020 7:32PM1 -
dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭sure remove detection potions as long as we can triple cloak cost and make it so using proximity detonation blocks the user from using invisibility and stuns
PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.1 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JamieAubrey wrote: »OP is a NB
I'm a NB and I use Detect Pots against other NB's.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »You should not be able to kill 10 players by yourself from stealth anyway.
Yes you should, that's why there are bombers. There is a need to combat giant zergs running around trampling over everyone. Without bombers then it is just zerg vs zerg. That leaves solo players to fend for themselves. Sorry you got bombed because you run in giant groups and can't fight on your own.
Lol, I don't stand on flags or next to VD procs.
Better to hang back and kill the would be bomber.2 -
zergbase_ESO✭✭✭✭Can you please explain what you mean by multiple? As far as I'm aware, the potion cooldown is universal. You can only use one every 45 seconds, regardless of whether you switch pots or not.
I think OP did not give a ball group enough space and someone running the pot tagged them. Also Mage light and other abilites. I tend give enemy ball groups distance and pots have not been an issue and if player see's you and you vanish and they use one that is fair game in my opinion.1 -
notyuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Remove what is in essence the only reliable counter to stealth?
sure, but only if they remove stealth/cloak from the game...which as you can tell, would be a HARD no
minor berserk and minor protection pots would be...interesting however.1 -
SamanthaCarter✭✭✭Camo Hunter mage light and Aoe are enough perma detect pots is unbalanced unfair and stupid0
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »i would say cant remove it until magelight works and is longer than 3 secs, the amount of nb's that cloak under a sec when brought out by magelight is stupid
Bang on. The skill is next to useless aside from the passivesXbox One | EU | EP
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Flaaklypa✭✭✭✭✭SamanthaCarter wrote: »Camo Hunter mage light and Aoe are enough perma detect pots is unbalanced unfair and stupid
HOW is it unfair, unbalanced and stupid? when using a detect pot you have 15 sec to kill a nb or the nb will be gone. Things that kill you tends to be annoying and "unfair". but you should stop relying so much on ONE skill.
and how do you think it will be FAIR to have a NB in stealth with pretty much no way to get detected? Camo hunter and mage light costs 4k resources respectively. NON sustainable.
Detect pots are a blessing in the game, and its incredibly fun to see these nb in stealth thinking they are safe, only to be killed in seconds after. Invisiblity SHOULD have multiple counters. and zos is not going to listen to this nonsene im afraid.
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[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on September 6, 2020 1:32PM6 -
midgetfromtheshire✭✭✭✭Can we actually get a video of you killing people engaged in a proper fight? Also by fight, I don't mean sitting in a field or on a wall for 10min waiting to gank people that are riding past, and then cloaking off to hide when that fails.Get rid of faction locks.8 -
Sirvaleen✭✭✭✭Why not. Then make Magelight 20m radius for 15s and cost 1k magicka. And make the stealth attack prevention work. For real.2
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ThePedge✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Not making sense.
Why should there not be a counter to invisibility?
I mean, I don't agree with OP but don't be this ignorant.
Counters:
Magelight, Camo Hunter, EVERY AOE SKILL IN THE GAME.
In this busted game even Light Attacks and single target abilities are breaking cloak.
So don't talk about no counters.
Detect Pots do need a visual effect. You have no idea when a detection potion is being used against you, and just get randomly detected with no idea why.2 -
xxslam48xxb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Imagine if a potion existed that disabled any other classes primary defense. A perfect 1 click counter to any glass cannon, so shouldn't a perfect 1 click counter exist against the opposite? Where is my completely remove armor poison? Where is my sorry no dodge roll spam for you poison. Nah only nbs got to be counter able with 1 click.I wrote a poem that I titled, "The ganker's delight."
As you lay upon the ground, cry not little pawn.
The pain will pass as quickly as my blade did take you,
but my delight will last and you will respawn.
My heart simply cannot contain my joy, when I ply my trade.
The fault lies with you, your skill was lacking.
Now your salt is mine forever, can't you hear the laughing?
Once you were so proud and now you are reduced to this.
A miserable, loud deuced fool.
With every tear you drip, with every excuse you let slip.
All of your insecurities and worries bring a smile to my lip.
From your despair I have ripped endless glories,
but our affair is over now. Be afraid for I will return for more.
I have received many titles, to my allies I am The sniper Emperor and Grand champion hero of the Pact. However these titles mean little to me, it is the ones given to me by my victims that I prefer. To them I am "Xv1er", "trash", "no balls", "zerger", "noob", "cringe", "no skill", "camper", "100% new", "the reason this game is dying", "pathetic", "a sack of piece of [snip]", "mediocre", "absolute inbred", "beyond a virgin", "ganky dork", "fat smelly 40yr old virgin", "little girl", "daddy", "exploiting loser", and every [snipped] word known to man.1 -
SamanthaCarter✭✭✭HOW is it unfair, unbalanced and stupid? when using a detect pot you have 15 sec to kill a nb or the nb will be gone. Things that kill you tends to be annoying and "unfair". but you should stop relying so much on ONE skill ==> NO NO and NO it’s not 15 sec but forever vs aids group and I never die anyways because only lags can kill me I just run and I dont like to be forced to run more than 15 sec
and how do you think it will be FAIR to have a NB in stealth with pretty much no way to get detected? Camo hunter and mage light costs 4k resources respectively. NON sustainable. ==> No you wrong and no I detected and killed thousands of NBs without using it learn to play (no bait) use aoes like streak ,volatile armor, hurricane,bombard and many more furthermore you can sustain pretty well mage light and camo hunter whit eternal vigor and even without it !!!!
Learn to sustain !
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Detects pots deserved to be nerffed more than every skills in the game simple as that
[Edited for Naming and Shaming, and Baiting]
Edited by Psiion on September 10, 2020 9:25PM1 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭No thanks as a 6 year stamblade it’s my favourite class I love to carry detect pots for gankers mainly of the sniper kind1 -
pauld1_ESO✭✭✭✭try to learn to fight players without crutching on invisibility.
their are 5 classes that seem to be able to fight just fine without having to resort to "no you cannot see me!"
Cool...then you play your [insert class/build here] without [insert said class/build defining ability here] and we can call it even.
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pauld1_ESO✭✭✭✭I do believe cloak/stealth needs a counter, but the amount of NB hate crap I see on these forums is absurd too, all of you are bias. There is so much cheez in this game with certain sets/builds/abilities that ALL have access to, and you die to them all the time. But God forbid someone use one of these sets/builds/abilities out of stealth....DELETE NB!!!!!
Reminds me of the drone strike argument....kill one dude with a drone and people are protesting in the streets, kill 30 with a B-1 bomber and <crickets> lol.
Seriously some logical fallacies at work here.Edited by pauld1_ESO on September 10, 2020 12:57PM4
