Whats up with Shuffle nowadays?

hakan · September 2020

i dont see it being used anymore. not even on stamblades. was there any change to it?

Firstmep · September 2020

hakan wrote: »

i dont see it being used anymore. not even on stamblades. was there any change to it?

Zos did a pass on snares a while back, and toned many of them down.
Also race against time is an option too, that uses Magicka.
I still regularly se shuffle on my stamblade, as I like to stay mobile, but I think most nbs prefer to rely purely on cloak and shade.

hakan · September 2020

Firstmep wrote: »

hakan wrote: »

i dont see it being used anymore. not even on stamblades. was there any change to it?

Zos did a pass on snares a while back, and toned many of them down.
Also race against time is an option too, that uses Magicka.
I still regularly se shuffle on my stamblade, as I like to stay mobile, but I think most nbs prefer to rely purely on cloak and shade.

yeah there isnt much snares anymore. though people praised the aoe reduction, it even reduces the dawnbreaker damage.

Fur_like_snow · September 2020

Most players made the switch to RaT.

Firstmep · September 2020

hakan wrote: »

Firstmep wrote: »

hakan wrote: »

i dont see it being used anymore. not even on stamblades. was there any change to it?

Zos did a pass on snares a while back, and toned many of them down.
Also race against time is an option too, that uses Magicka.
I still regularly se shuffle on my stamblade, as I like to stay mobile, but I think most nbs prefer to rely purely on cloak and shade.

yeah there isnt much snares anymore. though people praised the aoe reduction, it even reduces the dawnbreaker damage.

I like to have major evasion in bgs as there are a lot of aoe spam, but for open world it's not super necessary I think.
It does help against wardens, necros and templars though.
Altough the high aoe dmg is avoidable on 2 of those 3 classes.
For me it comes down whether I have a better ability to use in its place or not(shuffle), Altough at that point elude and deadly cloak are both pretty good too.

Ezorus · September 2020

Tbh shuffle died to me the day they removed the dodging attacks

hakan · September 2020

Ezorus wrote: »

Tbh shuffle died to me the day they removed the dodging attacks

yeah but rng dodging felt so bad. what we have now feels boring but at least its kinda balanced.

Nairinhe · September 2020

hakan wrote: »

Ezorus wrote: »

Tbh shuffle died to me the day they removed the dodging attacks

yeah but rng dodging felt so bad. what we have now feels boring but at least its kinda balanced.

Rng dodge was very nice for solo/duo-ing PVE stuff. Saved me couple of times when I was in my early CP

lurkin777 · September 2020

I agree when it only works on AOE now it is not worth the slot especially solo just like or other skills that were nerfed with it to not dodge attacks except AOE. They are almost all useless now.

YandereGirlfriend · September 2020

I like Quick Cloak in basically all situations over Shuffle.

That said, if you are 2H / Sword and Shield then I would totally go with Elude.

Major Evasion is one of those buffs that I dismissed for far too long, but now I try to squeeze in wherever I can.

Sanctum74 · September 2020

Its a great skill when it works, but to have to hit the button 3 times for it to finally activate and then you’re still immobilized and snared isn’t worth the skill slot just for the aoe reduction.

universal_wrath · September 2020

I find elude to be the better more now. Most anares where nerfed in potency and calculation and not many people run immoblizatiins anymore. Elude has a long duration and almost 100% on major expedtion in 1vx scenarios or when fighting wardens/templars/necromancers. Shuffle sometimes needs to be activqted twice to get the full benefit of the skill. First when pre buff, second when snared/immoblized after shuffle snare immunity ends.