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Nightblade build advice

Epicgamertag199
Epicgamertag199
Soul Shriven
I've been tinkering around with different builds and I've decided I quite like Briarheart. I mainly do battlegrounds and occasionally wander into Cyrodiil, but want to keep open good DPS for dungeons. Eventually I intend to wander into trials/arenas, but haven't gotten there yet.

Currently I'm running Briarheart+Spriggans+Balorgh's, but I'm curious about swapping out Spriggan's for Nightmother's Gaze. Currently with Spriggan's I backbar Piercing Mark to get Major Fracture on my target, but I constantly find myself unable to swap between bars quick enough in the heat of things and this ability goes unused. That said, the penetration from Spriggan's helps make up for that and still does decent damage. My usual combo is load up on relentless focus, shuffle, and leeching strikes -> piercing mark -> ambush -> surprise attack and either incapacitating strike or power extraction if I don't have major brutality up, then it's the typical weaving/spamming surprise attack/etc.

My current thought is Nightmother's removes the need for Piercing Mark and also gives some more crit rating to keep Briarheart up. However, I lose the permanent penetration boost and not using Piercing Mark in dungeons would be a detriment to any magicka friends due to loss of Major Breach.

Would it be better to go for ease-of-fights with Nightmother's, or get better at swapping and engage/disengaging with Spriggans?
  • zvavi
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    In dungeons the tank+healer should provide major breach and fracture (tank's taunt skill pierce armor provides them both, the other morph doesn't provide breach). Worst case scenario the dds themselves can slot caltrops (fracture) or elemental drain (breach).

    I wouldn't recommend pointing out that there is not breach on boss to healers and tanks, my experience shows that:
    60% getting ignored.
    15% they start flaming you for flaming.
    20% they said they will slot it/already slotted and proceed keeping lower than 20% uptime on it.
    5% they actually slot it and start doing their job.

    And I am trying to be super nice about it too, something like "there is no elemental drain on boss, should I slot it myself?" Kind of thing.
    Edited by zvavi on September 1, 2020 8:40PM
  • Everest_Lionheart
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    On my Stamwarden I run Hundings/Briarheart for PvE and Hundings/Spriggans for PvP. I’m also running Sellistrix but plan to change for Selene once I get it transmuted.

    I leveling up a stamblade now and experimenting with Hundings/Ancient Dragonguard. I’ve seen Ancient Dragonguard used in PvP but paired with other sets. It’s gives a damage bonus above 50% health and a defensive bonus below 50%. Seen some people suggesting to pair that with titanborn which gives you huge damage bonuses with low health. You could look at innate axiom also which had similar stats to Dragonguard and can be used on stam or magicka.

    That’s stuff is way outside the box though.

    For what it’s worth Hundings and Briarheart is always a safe pairing. Spriggans ok for solo play but in groups you may go above the penetration cap. I solo in The Briarheart setup anyway because the healing component is also nice.
  • Zodiarkslayer
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    Nightmother's Gaze is only useful when you have no other source for Major Fracture. As in being a StamPlar for example.
    Even Briarheart is not exactly BiS for Stamblade. You basically have that effect up anyways with leeching strikes. As a general rule for Nightblades: go for Raw Power. The Class provides all utility you can hope for, except for a class shield maybe. ;)
    If anyone here says: OH! But, PVP! I swear I'll ...

    Thank you for the valuable input and respectfully recommend to discuss that aspect of ESO on the PVP forum.
  • Epicgamertag199
    Epicgamertag199
    Soul Shriven
    Thanks all.

    I ended up going with Briarheart + Stuhn's, since it has almost the same weapon damage as Hunding's and more penetration than Spriggan's. Surprise Attack sets enemies off-balance, so it's basically always up. I lose a little bit of stamina and crit rating but that's manageable with potions/food. If I manage to throw in a Piercing Mark then it's basically a bonus.

    Playing around with it running some solo overland bosses I got my first ever 50k+ hits, so that was neat and I think is a sign that I'm on the right track to figuring this thing out. Now if only I didn't blow all my gold on golding out Spriggan's :neutral:
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